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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:52 PM
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Katrina and 9-11 (WARNING: graphic photos)
Say, "Bush" and Katrina is another word for 911.

The official death toll is 1,300 in five states, according to CNN.

Of them, 1,080 died in New Orleans -- most died in the poorer parts of the city.

Thousands still missing after Katrina

Medical examiner wants search to resume in hardest-hit areas

Then there are the missing children of Katrina. Several hundred to a thousand missing kids in America -- all from one disaster and the media says nothing?

Accounting for Katrina's Missing Children

All Things Considered, December 24, 2005 Nearly 5,000 children were considered missing after Hurricane Katrina. More than 4,500 have been reunited with their families. Most of the rest may not have survived the storm, says Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

SOURCE w/Audio:

Gee. 500 kids died a horrible death in the hurricane.


Thats about as many kids as died in that horrible terror in Russia.

Its not their fault they couldnt get out of harms way.

There was no one to save them. No relative. No friend. No neighbor. Nobody.

The pukes will say, "Look on the bright side. We rescued thousands."

Sure. "We."

Right. "Rescued."

Some of the luckier kids.

I just saw a friend for the first time since she returned from New Orleans in October.

She's sort of a part of a paramedic rescue team.

There, she said the destruction was much worse than any media have depicted in the rest of the country. Utter devastation on an unimaginable scale.

I asked her about the casualties.

She said the local police said the official estimates are way low. Way low.

She wouldn't say a number, but did say the guesstimate from the people in authority she met were 5,000 to maybe 10,000 human beings in New Orleans died in the natural disaster and man-made disaster afterward.

Thats as many three times as the number who perished in 9-11.

That happened on Bushs watch, too.

And where was Bush?

Lookin' good, Junior.

With apologies to Katrina, everywhere. The women named Katrina with whom I am aquainted are all most kind and beautiful.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:55 PM
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1. "...doin' a heck of a job Brownie!"
what an absolute dumass!
From his silverspoon fratboy perspective he is immune. I hope he goes to trial, and if found guilty -Federal prison for his crimes
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:04 AM
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3. From your keyboard to the great e-mail server in the sky.
El Glorioissimo Lider

President Arrives in Alabama, Briefed on Hurricane Katrina

Mobile Regional Airport
Mobile, Alabama

President's Remarks

In Focus: Hurricane Relief

10:35 A.M. CDT

THE PRESIDENT: Well, first I want to say a few things. I am incredibly proud of our Coast Guard. We have got courageous people risking their lives to save life. And I want to thank the commanders and I want to thank the troops over there for representing the best of America.

I want to congratulate the governors for being leaders. You didn't ask for this, when you swore in, but you're doing a heck of a job. And the federal government's job is big, and it's massive, and we're going to do it. Where it's not working right, we're going to make it right. Where it is working right, we're going to duplicate it elsewhere. We have a responsibility, at the federal level, to help save life, and that's the primary focus right now. Every life is precious, and so we're going to spend a lot of time saving lives, whether it be in New Orleans or on the coast of Mississippi.

We have a responsibility to help clean up this mess, and I want to thank the Congress for acting as quickly as you did. Step one is to appropriate $10.5 billion. But I've got to warn everybody, that's just the beginning. That's a small down payment for the cost of this effort. But to help the good folks here, we need to do it.

We are going to restore order in the city of New Orleans, and we're going to help supplement the efforts of the Mississippi Guard and others to restore order in parts of Mississippi. And I want to thank you for your strong statement of zero tolerance. The people of this country expect there to be law and order, and we're going to work hard to get it. In order to make sure there's less violence, we've got to get food to people. And that's a primary mission, is to get food to people. And there's a lot of food moving. And now the -- it's one thing to get it moving to a station, it's the next thing to get it in the hands of the people, and that's where we're going to spend a lot of time focusing.

We've got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch. (Laughter.)

GOVERNOR RILEY: He'll be glad to have you.

THE PRESIDENT: Out of New Orleans is going to come that great city again. That's what's going to happen. But now we're in the darkest days, and so we got a lot of work to do. And I'm down here to thank people. I'm down here to comfort people. I'm down here to let people know that we're going to work with the states and the local folks with a strategy to get this thing solved.

Now, I also want to say something about the compassion of the people of Alabama and Mississippi and Louisiana and surrounding states. I want to thank you for your compassion. Now is the time to love a neighbor like you'd like to be loved yourselves.

Governor Riley announced the fact that they're going to open up homes in military bases for stranded folks. And that's going to be very important and helpful.

My dad and Bill Clinton are going to raise money for governors' funds. The governors of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama will have monies available to them to help deal with the long-term consequences of this storm.

The faith-based groups and the community-based groups throughout this part of the world, and the country for that matter, are responding. If you want to help, give cash money to the Red Cross and the Salvation Army. That's where the first help will come. There's going to be plenty of opportunities to help later on, but right now the immediate concern is to save lives and get food and medicine to people so we can stabilize thesituation.

Again, I want to thank you all for -- and, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. The FEMA Director is working 24 -- (applause) -- they're working 24 hours a day.

Again, my attitude is, if it's not going exactly right, we're going to make it go exactly right. If there's problems, we're going to address the problems. And that's what I've come down to assure people of. And again, I want to thank everybody.

And I'm not looking forward to this trip. I got a feel for it when I flew over before. It -- for those who have not -- trying to conceive what we're talking about, it's as if the entire Gulf Coast were obliterated by a -- the worst kind of weapon you can imagine. And now we're going to go try to comfort people in that part of the world.

Thank you. (Applause.)

END 10:39 A.M. CDT


The cowardly uncompassionate turd can't even bring himself to raise taxes. He's gotta send Poppy and Bill Clinton out to pass the hat.

And Brownie's doin' a heck of a job because he's loyal and following Bush SOP -- DO NOTHIN'. RIGHT.

What a joke of a man, let alone pretzeldent, the crazy moron is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:03 AM
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2. Octafish, thanks for posting this thread. This is a link to -- a project of the Hurricane Survivors forum. Like the Gulf Coast, it's a work in progress.

We're looking to add images, stories and also, links to places where people can usefully donate in any coin.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:24 AM
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4. Honored to be of help.
You're welcome, sfexpat2000. Thank you for the heads-up on the new web site and forum.

I am astounded the news media have so quickly moved on from what has happened on the Gulf Coast.

Here's a link to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children in hopes it may help children and their families:

Oh well. At least the NFL is still talking about it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:32 AM
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5. 500 children. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:25 AM
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6. There are so many reasons to believe the official death toll is a lie.
Rather than post more links, I'll give this important article:
Published on Friday, January 6, 2006 by

Bulldozing the Dead in New Orleans

by Scott Boehm

Joyce Green died on the roof of her Lower 9th Ward home as her New Orleans neighborhood flooded during Hurricane Katrina. Helplessly, her son watched her die as the water rushed dangerously below them. Just last week he was able to return to their collapsed house on Tennessee Street for the first time, and found her skeletal remains amidst the ruins. He was able to identify them because they were wrapped in the clothes she was wearing the day she died.

During Katrina, the Lower 9th Ward was deluged due to breaches in the Industrial Canal levee. Additionally, an enormous barge that was illegally left in the canal was launched into the neighborhood, destroying lives and property during its reckless trajectory. Four months later, many questions remain unanswered regarding the destruction in the Lower 9th Ward, including the question of possible criminal negligence. However, before those questions have been fully investigated, let alone answered, the City of New Orleans is rushing to bulldoze much of the neighborhood--without informing homeowners.

On the eve of the holiday season, Greg Meffert, the city's chief technology officer, revealed that the city would immediately demolish about 2,500 "red-tagged" homes in the Lower 9th Ward. Before Meffert's announcement, a red-tag merely meant that a home was unsafe to enter. The City of New Orleans website specifically states in bold italicized text that "a red sticker does not indicate whether or not a building will be demolished, only that the structure is currently unsafe to enter."

Yet the City decided to bulldoze red-tagged homes without informing homeowners of the new meaning of the red tags or the demolition order. This is a clear violation of due process, guaranteed under federal and state constitutions, which protects property owners from the unlawful destruction of their property. It is also a clear, opportunistic attack on the Lower 9th Ward community, whose historically black roots run deep in the neighborhood. Boasting the highest level of black homeownership in the nation, the area is also where many black New Orleanians have traditionally been able to purchase their first homes.

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:57 AM
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7. 25,000 body bags. Let's order 50,000 more
Luckily most of the links have gone offline, so it's just a selection of the news clipping

Body bags arrive as survivors are forced to leave
By Tim Reid
Dick Cheney makes an appearance in New Orleans as criticism of the Bush Administration grows

MORE than 25,000 body bags were sent to the New Orleans area as the citys putrid, receding floodwaters began to give up their dead yesterday.,,23889-1772194,0...

September 9, 2005
The Modesto Bee, California

The federal government is trying to purchase an additional 50,000 body bags for use in the Hurricane Katrina cleanup and in Iraq, according to an official for a Modesto manufacturer.

A word from the other site:

I have finally reconnected with my best friend who is a paramedic who was sent from Georgia 2 days ago to Gulf Port, Mississippi before the hurricane hit.


He got very quiet with me when I told him the numbers that have been public so far. He asked what have they said? I told him 50-80...he said "dude..we are picking up 30 at a time...thousands are dead...why aren't they saying...I guess I better shut up then...don't give my name" word for word in the call...

Just trying to be specific for everyone here....

As bodies recovered, reporters are told 'no photos, no stories'

"A rumor from inside FEMA states that the Bush administration has devised a strategy to try to handle the death count plans to 'lowball' the figures (that's already come true with the statement by Brown's replacement), and to dribble the figures out, released not as cumulative totals, but in groups of several hundred...over a prolonged period time. All the while blocking the release of any graphic photos, putting a gag order on all people involved in the body recovery, and not listing unclaimed bodies (in some cases, whole families died and there is no one to claim them) with the 'official count.'

Hurricane Simulation Predicted 61,290 Dead
'As Katrina roared into the Gulf of Mexico, emergency planners pored over maps and charts of a hurricane simulation that projected 61,290 dead and 384,257 injured or sick in a catastrophic flood that would leave swaths of southeast Louisiana uninhabitable for more than a year.

As Hurricane Katrina began pounding New Orleans, the sheriff's department abandoned hundreds of inmates imprisoned in the citys jail, Human Rights Watch said today.
Inmates in Templeman III, one of several buildings in the Orleans Parish Prison compound, reported that as of Monday, August 29, there were no correctional officers in the building, which held more than 600 inmates.


The Louisiana Department of Public Safety and Corrections, which oversaw the evacuation, and the Orleans Sheriffs Department should account for the 517 inmates who are missing from list of people evacuated from the jail.

19 September 2005
Tons of British aid donated to help Hurricane Katrina victims to be BURNED by Americans

More than 2000 dead bodies collected in only ONE facility on only ONE day

I was assigned to a team that blocked off the street in front of a building that FEMA is using for a morgue, on the corner of Besson and Iberville. It's a plain warehouse that sits in the back of other buildings, with a large area for truck movement.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:11 AM
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8. Thinks for this compilation. Here are a few more for your list:
Mortitians told to expect 40,000 bodies
(go to Reply 17 for the permalink to the article)
FEMA outsources Katrina body count to firm implicated in body-dumping!
Please post all articles on body counts here.

And then there is the important NYT study showing that even with the "officially dead," most died AFTER the storm rather than FROM the storm. Blood is on the Bush cabal's hands.
NYT reports study of Katrina dead - MOST DIED AFTER THE STORM
No coincidence IMO that the title of this article has nothing to do with its major premise and conclusion - I'm betting this was editors appeasing Bushies.

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:37 AM
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9. Reply #15 was spot on as well
leftofthedial (1000+ posts)
Thu Sep-08-05 06:02 AM
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15. by the time the bushturdgang are done counting

it will be 1,275

Quod Est Demonstratum
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:43 AM
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10. and what about all the fires???
ok, this might seem paranoid, but this article appeared on Sept 9, and it's bothered me ever since. Just yesterday, or the day before, I was walking past the tv and they were saying "police are letting fires burn out of control in NOLA"-i was on my way out the door and forgot all about it until this post. No hard facts, just speculation, but still...

(snip) Over the last few days I have been carefully monitoring news outlets for any fires that suspiciously break out, especially at night in New Orleans. I find it ostensibly strange that virtually none are being reported. Regardless, I am tracking this for good reason.

Armed with the truth of how corrupt the Bush regime truly is, I can honestly say that I have learned how to watch our incompetent leaders in action with a criminal mind. I strongly suspect that, under cover of darkness, FEMA and/or Blackwater high paid mercenaries may be using various buildings, warehouses or even abandoned homes as strategical crematorium sites for casualties so they can effectively keep the embarrassing body count to a minimum..

It's called "damage control," and next to making war and emptying our national treasury, this is what they do best. Kind of a criminal trifecta system of management. They are very good at it.

(snip )Additionally, here's something else to chew on in terms of saving money -- ever try to collect on a life insurance policy without a dead body to produce as evidence? It's next to impossible. Bottom line -- those flood victims not positively identified will not be given death certificates, without which nobody can collect. Trust me, they won't go through the trouble of identifying casualties using DNA because there won't be any personal samples available for comparison. And even if they had it, I seriously doubt that they will go to the trouble and expense of making familial comparisons.

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