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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:48 PM Original message |
The gravity of the situation.... mind experiment, physics question, |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Earth is not a closed system |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. That's not the right answer really. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. The question regarded closed systems |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Why does one face of the moon always face the earth? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Cause it revolves as it rotates |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Maybe it's the magnetism. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do you mean something like THIS? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. What are you talking about? |
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G2099 (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Link to The Final Theory here: |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yes.... I'm just bananas over it.... really. :) |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. I do a little work in this area. |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. The tidal pull of the Moon is caused by gravity. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I'll bet you a million bucks against $100 the moon never crashes |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You're quite right. My mistake. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Hehe, didn't mean to be a smartass, tryin'a make a funny. |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Not at all, I'm glad you pointed it out. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Karl, Your Okie is showing n/t |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Karl, Your Okie is showing n/t |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Wow, don't you have a rosy view for us in the future? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
65. Like this? |
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Reckon (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Centrifugal force of the moon, maybe?.. |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Actually no it's the earth that loses energy in this case. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tidal currents ARE used to produce electricity in some places. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. Energy from tides |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Interesting link from the Wiki article |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. Tidal energy is turned into heat |
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BrewerJohn (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. I think the energy would ultimately come out of Earth's rotation |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Because the up/down motion is cyclic, there is no average work done |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. lol |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Well then.... what is it when you move a mass a certain |
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BrewerJohn (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. When "you" move a mass up and then back down |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Oh...... it gets it back..... I see... hadn't thought of that angle. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. You Folks aren't sailors |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I suggest you lay off the Viagara for awhile there.... really. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. You Folks aren't sailors |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Seriously. The tidal range is much greater by locality |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well then get ready for the Bay of Fundy tidal range...... |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. Don't know about rotational energy of earth, but... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
21. Remember, it's not nice to fool with Mother Nature and this is |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. But it does give the planet a good excuse to wage natural |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Well, pretty much *anything* we do will be "fooling" with mother nature. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. It could be done with floats and things that compress... |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Well howdy neither am I.... but imagine if ALL OF THE FISH |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Only if they did it really fast... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. and solar power and wind power don't work either! |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. The moon is in essence "lifting" up the water. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Not a very large problem if you have a very large |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. :-) |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. I always look at that huge nuclear ball of gas and wonder why |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. What if..... oh gawd this hurts..... what if..... what if the real |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Einstein asked that question. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Not unless they had a ruler that wasn't expanding too. n/t |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. The Universe IS expanding. |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
45. 2 to 4 feet is squat and won't turn a turbine |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. It's more about current speed than it is about tide height. |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 02:30 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I guess I was thinking like a damn dam engineer |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 02:33 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I've read that there are only 20 or so places in the world |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
47. I have read through this thread and have come to a conclusion... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Existing and planned tidal power stations around the world |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Does nobody Google? We HAVE gone there... |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #47 |
64. Why haven't we gone there? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
57. This energy is borrowed from the rotational intertia of the orbiting... |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
60. The book sucks big time |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Quote..... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
63. . |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Ah ah ah.... can't get somethin' fer nuthin'. Gotta put a load on |
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