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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:19 PM Original message |
It’s time to clear up some misconceptions about Miami Cubans. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Just hope you understand, people respond to the fact that |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No, I don't think you understand |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. So if people support people who support Batista instead, that's better? |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Batista has been dead since 1973 |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Wish his support died with him (nt) |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Have you ever been to Miami? |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Yes, I have, and I will never return. nt |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Couldn't handle it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
61. Deleted sub-thread |
RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I will repeat what another post has already told you |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 04:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
99. Then what are we to make of all of the Cuba B.C. crap in Miami? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Well said. Also.... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I hate that too |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
93. Wrong. I don't think you know the circle of payoffs that exist in Washing |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. That's how I look at it -- spot on n/t |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. the fact is, they allied themselves with the oppressors |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. they could all go back to cuba & DO SOMETHING instead of living |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Some of them have tried |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Luis Posada Carilles? |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I didn't call him a hero |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thanks. I didn't know most of this. I only remember |
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melnjones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. kicked, recommended, and bookmarked. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Thanks and honored to give you the 5th recommendation n/t |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. THANKS |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. Bravo! Well Done. |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. Maybe if the Miami Cuban community.. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Is there anyway you can learn not to speak in such broad generalizations? |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
52. or every Italian is in the mafia?? ...I don't like being left out...hahaha |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
90. Or all Czechs love fattening pastry. Actually I really enjoyed this |
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TroubleMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. You should never paint a group of people with such a broad swathe....but |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. It's like the attitude you get from some Jewish people |
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TroubleMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. If the majority of all Cubans have their way, then I agree, |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Cuba has a lot of foreign countries that are already investing in it |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. I always say that -- Cuba could have so easily have been a good ally |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I remember Castro coming to the US in 1960s asking for a meeting |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
98. JFK put out feelers to Castro in order to de-escalate Cold War tensions... |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
69. Re: "all of these great social programs" |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. WHY can't Cubans get aspirin? |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. So they don't sell aspirin in Canada or Mexico |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Aspirin is an american brand name. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. There's also the incidental element of ferocious additional costs |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. Kudos on a great post. n/t |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Excellent post.... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. Bravo! |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. I always enjoy your Cuba threads. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Thanks |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. His mother was a character, Molly Ivins wrote a tribute column |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I don't mind if you hijack my thread on such a positive note |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I believe I got the Hillary info from a right wing source that |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. No mention of the Cuban Adjustment Act nor wet foot/dry foot or.. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. My post was meant to clear up misconceptions about Miami Cuban |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Ok. My post was meant to clear a misconception you neglected .. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Right |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Compensation for nationalized property which had belonged to |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I think you forgot one |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. You forgot to post the larger context: |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I didn't know that about Law 851. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. You'd be right in checking the material on that Law in other places. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
72. Not all semantics to the INS/ICE. Big diff in political & economic status |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. I don't like the "worm" insults either |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. That's the Cuban term for them. Take it up with the Cubans. n/t |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Oh, so it's the Cubans who are repeating it on DU? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 04:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
100. The Palestinians... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
85. And it was very interesting to get the inside track on the matter |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Mika, this was a superb post. People should know what has been happening |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. Thanks for the information. |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. Interesting - like much in life, more complicated than it looks |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
49. Most Americans are terrified of losing their private property |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. They were offered compensation for their property. n/t |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Offered maybe, but not paid |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Judi, do you have that timeline handy that shows CANF terrorism? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Hi! Sorry I took so long. Was away for a while, didn't see your post, |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:06 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Considering Judi posts that timeline in practically every Cuban thread |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. People tend to lump the right-wingers who have a choke hold on U.S. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. With you, it's always black or white |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
53. Otra cosa... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Claro Que Si! |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
56. April 17, 1961: Bay of Pigs - May 1, 1961: Socialist Republic |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
64. My Best Friend Growing Up Came As A Baby In 1960 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
66. Kick. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
67. Thanks for the info,Raging. A little grounding in historical reality |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
70. Propaganda |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I noice you don't actually refute anything in the OP. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Not surprising. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
73. God, get over it, already |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. That's one FLAWLESS post, HamdenRice. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Exceedingly well said, HamdenRice. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. Funny how you mention how Cubans are living in the past |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. The Miami Cubano community has never been monolithic. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Fair enough |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. "And at least you live here.." |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I didn't know your wife was Cuban-American |
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DisgustedTX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
97. Bravo! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
78. Take the control over Americans' travel to Cuba OUT of the wrong hands |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
79. You make some good points |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
81. Anti-Castro = Pro-Batista is Anti-War = Pro-terrorist |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. Today's L.A. Times takes a look at the Miami Cubans |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. That article hits at what I'm trying to explain |
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tenshi816 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
83. I also enjoy your Cuba threads |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
92. As one who rants against the politics of Cuban-Americans and loves |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
94. I grew up in Florida |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. she's right |
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95. DUDE!!!!!!!!1 n/t |
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