Lieberman also compared the terror plot to the Iraq war.
"If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England. It will strengthen them and they will strike again."
I hope that Mr. LAmont asks Sen. Lieberman in return exactly what he has done in Congress to make the borders more secure. Which airports in Connecticut or in neighboring states have had increased security added to them or better detection material.
Hasn't all that money gone to Iraq? Lieberman is the sitting Senator, he, not Lamont bear the responsibility for making thimgs better, especially since Lieberman is the one with the 'security credentials.'
18. Lamont not agreeing on BushCo's foreign policy has nothing to do with this
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 02:19 PM by Iniquitous Bunny
Actually, the policies of BushCo have made things more dangerous for us. He continually ignore the real dangers and goes after some other agenda.
Not supporting the war in Iraq means nothing in terms of unwillingness to fight terrorism.
What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? Nothing.
Where's Bin Laden? I sure as Hell don't know either.
Are our ports secured? Um... Don't think so.
BushCo and Lieberman have have five years here. Five years! Measures in place to make us safer are not there and our entire military is off fighting some war we never needed to fight in the first place.
Lieberman: He voiced his opinion against the war BEFORE he supported the war.
Rove calls LIEberman and offers his help. HELP???
Fear mongering 101 Admonishment mongering 101 Democrat mongering 101
WTF Joe, you don't care about the Democratic party, otherwise you wouldn't label them as "LEFTISTS" WTF Joe, you don't care about the Democratic party, otherwise you wouldn't undermine the party with divisive rhetoric. WTF Joe, you don't care about the Democratic party, otherwise you wouldn't perpetuate the disunity that the GOP proclaims exists in the DNC. WTF Joe, you don't care about the Democratic party, otherwise you wouldn't talk like a Republican.
43. Blowback - "Joe, what committee do YOU sit on? Should we not be
blaming YOU for this? Think about it bud...and what about your new found friends? Are they not in CHARGE right now and have been for quite some time? So, howya think they are doing on making us safer in this world?"
Kids, the Repubs are in charge and the Dems should be shoving this back RIGHT into the facesd of the Repubs....the unsafe situation we have is on YOUR watch dammit...YOUR EFFING WATCH!
45. Joe theme for the election is going to be the Repub theme
This just proves what we all know, Joe is a Repub at heart. He will take all the Repub talking points and use them endlessly against Lamont until election day. He doesn't get that this is exactly why he lost! How does the saying go... a crazy person is someone who keeps doing the same thing over and over even though it gets no new results. Down he goes on this kind of theme, I hope, as he did in the primary
My local newspaper keeps referring to Lieberman as a
"moderate." As near as I can tell from his words and
actions, he's an effing Nazi.
No American of conscience can call for a continuation of the
imperialistic war of agression Bushco is waging throughout
Central Asia and the Middle East. We had no business there in
the first place. Now, every day we remain is another murder
to be atoned for.
For one thing it is patently clear that Ct did the right thing in getting rid of this cretin. His DLC/neocon stance has helped make the world a far more dangerous place - and to blur the already narrow boundaries between the GOP and the DNC in the two areas that mean the most (economics and foreign policy).
Almost as bad as Lieberbush's statement was the WH's jumping on the bandwagon. That tired old warhorse of "soft on national security" is being bandied about as if Nixon was running against JFK again. But instead of a "missile gap" we have the wierd mental gymnastics of equating Iraq, Al Qaeda and that tactic we are currently fighting a war against.
I am shocked at the incredible cynicism of both the DLC and the WH/GOP that STILL try to tie Iraq to terror. Cynicism or cognitive dissonance that is, because to claim that Iraq is the frontline of terror implies that the invasion was a mistake, an admission neither will ever make.
I am in awe of the ignorance of the electorate even more than I am shocked by the cynicism of the American rw. It seems that around 50% of the electorate still believes that Saddam had wmd's... and that they've been found. It also seems that an incredibly large margin think that Iraq is part of the war on terra. Judging by the platforms/battleplans published by the GOP, they are banking on this ignorance.
I am not at all sanguine about the upcoming elections because of this. The anti-war groups have been painted as extremists, the ground is being prepared to take the bottom out of whatever remains of the progressive nature of the DNC. Lieberbush's decision to go against the will of his constituents shows that democracy has nothing to do with the agenda of the right.
You see, I'm not pissed at Joe for doing this. What we're witnessing is Lieberman's self-destruction. Him saying this shit only harms him even more. His true colors are finally showing, and I for one couldn't be happier.
Further to the right, Joe! Move further to the right!
First--who has been running the show during all the terrorist mess? Gee. I do believe it is Joe's beloved leader. Oh, PUH-leez. Then ol' Joe doesn't pause before using this latest event to attack the man who had the unmitigated nerve to beat the great Joe in the Democratic primary. :puke:
Joe was the great statesman who announced after the 2004 election that there was no second place in politics. Then we HE loses, he whines and won't withdraw. What a crybaby! What a jerk! :eyes:
really hurt Lieberman. Let him keep it up. So far the two things he's been able to say about Lamont is that he is rich (so were JFK and FDR) and that he belonged to an exclusive club. Now he is using the ever more tiring argument of Liberals soft on teror. As the days and weeks go by Lieberman will get more negative, more shrill, more whiney. In the meantime Lamont is looking more cool and composed, more confident and more positive about the future.
... to think that, but it's the right of voters who disagree to vote against him.
Frankly, I doubt the U.S. presence in Iraq works to protect either England or the U.S. from English individuals who want to blow up U.S. airplanes. Does Joe now want the U.S. to occupy England to keep an eye on these individuals?
I do think that whether the U.S. stays in Iraq or withdraws there will be terrorist attacks. The U.S. can't simply withdraw and imagine that Iraqis will forget all that has happened over the past ten or fifteen years, and they aren't stupid enough not to know who has been responsible for what. They may want to punish Hussein, but they may also want to punish Bush and Blair.
72. Best argument against how the Reich Wing Nuts are spinning these arrests
Were any Humvees involved in making these arrests?
How about Black Hawk helicopters, were any of those involved?
Did invading and occupying any countries aid in making these arrests in any way?
Was suspending the rule of law, allowing leaders to be above the law, to interpret the law any way they like, to have no review or oversight of their actions to show that they were warranted?
Torture, was the information required to make these arrests obtained by torture, rape, murder?
Was not the information that exposed this plot to blow up airlines, using liquid explosives, provided by a muslim who did not require being tortured in order to provide it?
Were not these arrests a result of what they call "pre-9/11 thinking"?
Did not these arrests result from treating it as a criminal matter, something handled by the police, not the military, following the rule of law, not suspending the rule of law, using diplomacy, not requiring waging wars of aggression or committing crimes against humanity in any way?
So why are the right wing media whores and the puppets they support saying it justifies doing criminally incompetent things which had nothing to do with making these arrests?
Then why are you not making these arguments against their insults misrepresentations and lies?
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