You Want To Know Why I'm So Disgusted?

[ThomWV]

Its so simple. At the moment the Party needs unity more than anything else. Lieberman splits the party.

During the 2000 election Lieberman saw first hand that the Republican Party had become lawless and in the six years since he has to have seen that only a strong Democratic Party could stand up to it.

Which is more important, checking an out-of-control and lawless political party or satisfying ones ego? For Joe its the ego.

Hubris. Arrogantly aggressive ego.

Well, some say, He's been so good in the past. To paraphrase a blog I read yesterday (sorry, I don't have a link or citation), Obviously someone doesn't understand the principal of "Representative Democracy". I think he's thinking of something more on the lines of "Elected Aristocracy", wherein the people are merely allowed to judge the goodness of their selected officials but do not expect to be represented in their policy decisions.

The concession speech. I was never so much reminded in my life of a brat child demanding unearned privilege as I was last night watching and listening to that once-respected Senator bare his greed. It was disgraceful.

[Virginia Dare]

1. That's why Rove is salivating over this..

and I'm sure is baiting Lieberman, feeding into his ego. Divide and conquer tactics.

[Swamp Rat]

3. yep

[patrice]

2. It's only "split" if we believe/behave as though it is.

Don't accept false dichotomies. They are *imposed* on you by others, ergo they are not a valid expression of your own power.

[smokey nj]

4. IMO, Lieberman is the defacto repuke nominee......

The so-called split is merely a talking point and we need to treat it as such.

[Horse with no Name]

11. Exactly

He has been the lapdog of this administration--voting progressive when it didn't matter and voting neocon when it did.
The Republicans want the best of both worlds.
They want the Republicans AND the Republi-crats.
They've ALL been bought and paid for by their ill-gotten gains and they expect them to remain intact.

[Kashka-Kat]

5. Look at the bigger picture

Mine is prob a minority view around these here parts but... the re-emergence of the so called "center" is a good thing. From what I hear an independent Joe would take a sizeable chunk of the Republican vote --don't quote me but I think around 20% or more. From where I sit it reads as a weakening of the extremist right as much as anything.

I think having a "center" re-emerge in american politics would be a good thing-- imagine if such things as right to choose, environmental protections, etc. were not so much under the gun as they are now. The left would be free to work on other things. Hell, maybe we'd not be so freakin SHELL SHOCKED and better able to function!

[Totallybushed]

6. Well said, n/t

[chaumont58]

7. Outside of possibly Zell Miller, what national Democrat is going to ...

support ole Holy Joe?
His support from lobbyist should dry up also. What committee assignments will he get is he were to win? I wouldn't want to be Lieberman this morning, or on election day.

[porphyrian]

8. The Democratic party is not split, and it never has been.

We don't all agree on everything, that's simply a characteristic of a diverse population. However, we always come together when it matters. Talk about a "split" is simply an attempt to create one where one doesn't exist. Reject it entirely.

Lieberman lost because he stopped being a Democrat in everything but name and he ran out of strikes.

[hfojvt]

9. the real irony

is that he calls his new party "Lieberman for Connecticut".

Is anybody fooled? Lieberman is not for Connecticut, Lieberman is for Lieberman.

Liberal Oasis wrote:

"(Lieberman) claims to want a campaign about issues.

But what issue is going to turn the race around for him?

On what issue do they differ where Lieberman's stance is the majority view in CT?

Iraq? Terri Schiavo? Civil liberities? Filibustering right-wing judges? Special interest energy and bankruptcy bills? Emergency contraception?

And if Lieberman tries to go negative, and distract from issues (as he tried and failed to do in the primary) he will further undermine his attempt to be above, in his own words of last night, the "old politics of polarization.""

[Little Star]

10. This party is not split over Joe's loss. In fact I'll wager

that it is more together since he has lost. Haven't you seen all the statements of support for Lamont today? Any Dem that votes for Joe may as well throw their vote away. Joe is all done but for the crying.

[Bake]

12. Jojo, what have you done for me lately????

I will not dispute that Joe has been reliably left of center IN THE PAST. But frankly, Joe, what have you done for me lately? Let's see: there's The Kiss. There's the support for the war. There's the whole Bush-enabler thing. There's that "criticizing the President in a time of war ... at our own peril" thing. That's all you've done for us lately.

Bake