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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 09:58 PM
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How odd...EXIT POLLS in CT, with no Diebold, match official results so far
Just reported on the local station here, results of exit polling conducted by Quinnepaic and CBS.

Very, very interesting, eh?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 09:59 PM
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1. i had to give this one a K&N. interesting indeed... n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 09:59 PM
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2. I'd say...
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:00 PM
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3. HOLY F#CKING SHIT!! ......... We CAN have an honest election!
Lets see...hmmmm...what conclusions can we draw from this..?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:11 PM
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13. EDIT - my post made no sense.
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 10:14 PM by Maraya1969
:eyes:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:00 PM
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4. There were no exit polls. \nt
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:03 PM
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9. Did you not read what I posted?
CBS and Quinnepaic conducted exit polls, and the CBS affiliate reported it, and I watched it with my own eyes.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:28 AM
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32. Who you gonna beleive, your lying eyes?
.... Leiberman won. Get over it.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:42 AM
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33. These are to be the least publicized exit polls in the world.
Except if you are talking about polls taken on Monday (that predicted today results). But that would not be exit polls.
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:01 AM
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34. Re: were there exit polls? Yes, there were.
Mystery Pollster at first said there weren't but then, after looking into it further, decided there were:

UPDATE (8:32 p.m.): Very alert reader Melanie reports in a comment below that she "filled out an exit poll for CBS news." Via email she adds:

It was an electronic device - the logo at the top said CBS News, with no reference to our local CBS affiliate in Hartford. (It surprised me, which is why I remember it.) There were a lot of questions - it took from 5-10 minutes.

She adds that most of the questions concerned the Lieberman-Lamont race, but for some reason "didn't ask about the race for the gubernatorial nomination." Further:

I just heard a reporter note on NECN (New England Cable News- not affiliated with any of the majors, I don't think) that NY Times/CBS are doing exit polling - I don't know if it's true, but that was what he said.

Obviously, the polls in Connecticut have now closed, so any results from this exit poll are likely to come directly from CBS News or the New York Times. ..

UPDATE II (8:48): Kathy Frankovic at CBS News confirms that they did in fact conduct an exit poll in Connecticut today in partnership with the Times, but will not be using it to project a winner in the Senate race. Stay tuned...

http://www.mysterypollster.com/


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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:03 AM
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35. Thanks - There were really the most unpublished exit polls in this case.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:00 PM
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5. delete
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 10:01 PM by Mass
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:01 PM
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6. Lever machine
:) :) :)
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:31 AM
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26. The 2004 exit polls in New York dramatically overstated Kerry
Those are also lever machines. Yet the exit polling had Kerry winning by an implausible number, in the range of +29 or slightly higher. His official margin, and right in line with the pre-election polls, was +19.

None of the machine conspiracy theorists have ever come up with a sensible explanation.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:02 PM
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7. LOL! I love my levers!
LEVER POWER!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:02 PM
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8. Yes I mention that earlier as an important point to use and look at
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:04 PM
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10. so what are they? The results so far, I mean. :) n/t
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:08 PM
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11. Lieberman is conceding as I write this at 11:08 PM (Ct. time)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:11 PM
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12. good & may he feel like giving up altogether when it comes to
filing tomorrow for an independent
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:12 PM
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14. He's a Sore Loserman. (nt)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:14 PM
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15. Oh ah doo declair! Ah love an ole fasioned election.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:22 PM
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16. What an amazing coincidence!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:48 PM
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17. Just a reminder what happens with DIEBOLD-less elections...
:kick:
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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18. So, do the exit polls of 2004 where Diebold was a factor...
give any of you pause to think? Was Truth Is All right in his reporting of exit polls and actual voting patterns?

When Diebold isn't in the picture, it seems like exit polls are right on! But when voters of states where they are voting on Diebold touchscreens or scanners, exit polls no longer have value.

Coincidence?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:57 PM
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19. no coincidence
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:04 PM
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20. You mean those who voted for Joe were NOT reluctant
to tell the exit pollsters that they voted for Joe? Boy, that sure is strange. Historically (since circa 2004), the candidate who most resembles George Bush (or is actually George Bush) finds his supporters reluctant to tell the truth to exit pollsters. This phenomenon was proven as fact in all of the 10 battleground states in 2004.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:13 AM
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21. Good fuckin point
I swear to God if we fully investigated the 2000 and 2004 elections we'd find Diebold changed the results. I'd bet my life on it.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:18 AM
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22. I would, too. Literally.
I am so certain that 2000 and 2004 were stolen, I think I'd take that bet, too. If there was a way I could be sure it was a legitimate investigation, I mean, not a 9/11 commission style white wash. But I've gone over so many reams of information on the vote, the voting machine companies, the players, the results, the MOE, the exit polling, the cronyism and insiders...it strains credulity to think that Diebold DIDN'T alter the results. I really do think I'd bet my life on this one. I'm as certain of it as I am of anything I've ever believed.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:12 AM
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39. Here's another who would stake his life on it! The exit polls are on the
whole quite accurate, now more than ever.

And in 04 I believe they were right about where the American people were and are.

I'm wondering if there were any exit polls done for the McKinney primary in GA. I'll bet that's where all the reluctant responders are, all those guys that messed up the exit polls in 04.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:49 AM
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23. Very deliciously curious, don't you all think!...
Hmmm...I wonder why that is...hmmm...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:50 AM
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24. ummmmmmmmmmm.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:52 AM
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25. Hmmmm....an honest election! How rare!!!!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:42 AM
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27. but they've been so unreliable in the last two general elections....
how did they manage to get it right?:sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:44 AM
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28. Reminder: Election fraud is mostly a RACE CRIME.
In 2004, they mostly stole it via the Black, Latino and Native American vote. Hello?

MLK didn't risk and give his life so we could bend over for these criminals.

Visit the Election Forum today! We need your help to clean up our elections.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:45 AM
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29. Are you going to post a link to these polls any time soon?
Or, are you going to post them yourself?

Or, are we all going to have to put the mind ray on you so that we can know them, too.
:-)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:24 AM
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37. As I stated in my OP, it was a broadcast report on our local CBS station
So no, I don't have a link, although I'd bet there is one up somewhere now.
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:48 AM
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40. Here's a link:
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 10:53 AM by eomer
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/conn_primary.pdf

On edit: if you multiply the approve/disapprove of Iraq war percentages times the Lamont/Lieberman breakdown by approve/diasapprove then you get an overall margin of 51.4% for Lamont to 47.6% for Lieberman. That is pretty much an exact match to the official result. So are the percentages in this exit poll release already weighted by the official result or did they hit it right on the head? Can't tell from the press release.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:25 AM
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30. The election that fits
Strange how things work.


The corporate Nazis were caught with their pants down here and one good turn deserves another,
so waiting in the wings for the "Let's do-em again" Yee ha :woohoo:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:30 AM
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31. time to pull the plug on Diebold too...
:patriot:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:04 AM
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36. Isn't it amazing...when a rethuglican DOES NOT control the state election
infrastructure exit polls are their normal, bankable, accurate selves. Who would have thought?:sarcasm:

Guilty of Electoral Treason:
  1. Jeb Bush
  2. Cruella de Harris
  3. Kenneth Blackwell
  4. (Insert your state's rethuglican liar)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:35 AM
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38. Maybe we should make Connecticut's method the standard for the
country? Is that too much perfection?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:52 AM
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41. Very telling.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:18 PM
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42. Shy responders on vacation back for November
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:23 PM
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43. Randi wants to know what we think about the Lamont victory - someone
should call her and discuss this!
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:40 PM
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44. Better take a picture....
....it'll last only as long as November. Sad to say, but I expect much more of the same '04 electoral chicanery to proliferate the '06 midterms. It will likely result in the same electoral theft - multiplied many times over - which Bush profited from in '04.

Verified paper voting or there is no democracy.

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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:27 PM
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45. Actually they had the good ol' lever machines - NY has them too - Diebold
is ready to replace them!
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:37 PM
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48. How many years
Are we going to watch this happen before we take to the streets? We need real-time monitoring in 2006 and 2008 and we need to scream bloody murder and keep on screaming as soon as it looks like they're doing it again. Is there any centralized planning to do this? The Democratic party better make this a priority, IMHO.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:31 PM
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46. Exit polls..
... have always been very accurate. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand simple statistical analysis.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:36 PM
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47. Hmmmmmmm...........
Imagine that........exit polls being accurate.

K&R
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