What neo-cons (and/or Republicans) don't grasp.

[Skidmore]

They don't understand that ideas never die. They can try to force their ideology on every peoples in the world and crush as much dissent as officially possible, but it won't make a freaking bit of difference. Ideas carry on, are modified, and passed between individuals and across generations. You can torture, beat, or kill the body but you cannot destroy the ideas that originated in with that person or that were shared by that person with others. The world will suffer until people stand up and let them know that they remember and they value the thoughts and ideas they carry within them. Ideas like free speech, freedom of assembly, etc.--

Cue Patrick Henry here.

[porphyrian]

1. They are actually creating what they are trying to destroy...

...on just about every level and in just about every instance.

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. Have you asked yourself why? Because the corrupt members of their

party, from the local level to the federal level, are making profits during this era of open corruption. No regulation. It's cowboy times, and people are getting f****d in the b*** and no one can help them.

You all have no idea, no idea.

[porphyrian]

5. I have no idea? You don't know me. - n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. I bet you my sad story is worse than your sad story.

My sad story is sooooo bad, I make the Elephant Man look like Mel Gibson on a sober day.

[porphyrian]

7. Oh yeah? Well, my sad story is so bad,...

...it can bend Delay's "hair."

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Oh, yeah, but my sad story is so bad

that I'm not even allowed within 100 feet of the Chicago, Las Vegas or Orlando city limits.

[porphyrian]

10. How do you get kicked out of Vegas? OK, you win. - n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. Well, maybe I wrote that wrong. I probably should have said,

my story is so sad, that even the homeless in Chicago, Las Vegas and Orlando are better off than I am!

[porphyrian]

13. Heh, I'll still let you have it. - n/t

[bryant69]

2. Ideas like pushing Israel into the sea?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[TahitiNut]

8. "Israel will never be safe until the last Palestinian is dead."

That's also an "idea" that never seems to die. :shrug: It's an (admittely) extreme form of revisionist Zionism that's been around since the 20s and 30s, but it sure seems to echo down through the years. Why doesn't it get the "press" anymore?

My position? A plague on both their houses for not embracing the 'peace' they say they advocate.

[The2ndWheel]

4. Does that work for all ideas?

Or just the good ones?

[flaminbats]

11. sometimes our ideas come back to haunt us..

Tom DeLay.."There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=24148

"Democrats completely ignore the desperate need for deficit reduction, which in itself would be a major step forward toward enhancing our Nation's competitiveness." -- Delay on the House floor, September 22, 1992


“ President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
—Sen Rick Santorum (R-PA), when Clinton was President


Bush.."It must be in the national interests. It must be in our vital interest whether we ever send troops. The mission must be clear. Soldiers must understand why we’re going. The force must be strong enough so that the mission can be accomplished. And the exit strategy needs to be well-defined. I’m concerned that we’re overdeployed around the world. You see, I think the mission has somewhat become fuzzy."
Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17, 2000

Bush again when Clinton was President.."“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”


a final quote from Delay..“You can support the troops but not the president.”

:wow: so I can support our troops and oppose this Republican quagmire!