Why does Israel bomb innocents then launch a massive cover-up?

[DistressedAmerican]

Why do they kill women and children them blame them for their own deaths?

Anyone have any theories as to why they do this?

[The Straight Story]

1. Why do terrorists blow up bus loads of people and some say

well, it's not their fault, they had to do it because the other side created them?

When 9/11 hit, why did some claim it was our fault - and hence blamed the victim?

Why is it that it is said Group X creates terrorists and therefore are to blame - when many millions more people of the same faith/ethnic background/etc never run off and murder people to make their point?

People here seem to condemn Israel with the quickness and quite a bit, while glossing over terrorist activities by others.

Sure - Israel has done some fucked up shit, but one wonders why some here spend them time calling them out instead of the acts of others - maybe deep down they think killing is justified for one side...

[DistressedAmerican]

7. How about you tell me about the numbers?

Tell me about the ratio of Israeli casualties compared to Lebanese deaths. Tell me about the infrasrtucture that has been destroyed on either side.

You did know that Israel killed more people with one bomb at Qana (which they proceeded to lie about and cover-up) than Hezbollah has killed since this started?

How about you talk to me about the number of captives held by Israel (8,000-10,000) and how that compares to the number held by Hezbollah (2).

How about you tell me who has a state and who remains in refugee camps after decades.

I geuss all of that disporportionality is totally justified right?


If that inbalance in violence and general oppression does not explain it, you will never understand.

No killing is justifed. Hezbollah is fucked. But, when you look at who has done FAR more of it, Israel does not look like the victim to most of the world. Americans are still duped tough.

[The Straight Story]

11. Talking over time - not just this incident:

http://www.aijac.org.au/resources/hezb_00-06.html

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9155/

http://www.intelligence.org.il/Eng/bu/hizbullah/pb/app4.htm

[bahrbearian]

2. Why does the U.S. expedite bombs and jet fuel and not

ask for a cease-fire,,,why do we finance Israels military and not the Lebanese ?

[Kagemusha]

3. Because US public opinion turning against Israel is a strategic threat.

If you believe some people, because Washington is rabidly anti-Semitic in spite of its rhetoric and so, Israel must defend against shifts in public opinion lest inherent hatred of Jews cost it material aid and strategic political clout. So, blaming women and children for their own deaths is simply an extension of the battlefield, where defeat is not an option.

[gulfcoastliberal]

4. Why do US Soldiers kill, rape, and torure innocents Iraqi's?

What's your take on this?

[InaneAnanity]

5. Ethnic cleansing

It's been going on for over 3 decades.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. They have the Uncle Donnie ME warfare playbook.

rummie's grate new book - "Warfare for idjuts"

[Junkdrawer]

8. Because they can. And the latter enables the former. n/t

[Mass]

9. These things happen during every war. Remember WWII (on our side)

remember VietNam, Iraq, Kosovo. Each time a country starts to attack another country, these things are due to happen. This is not about a conspiration or other things like that. War is horrible.

So the real question is whether Israel was justified in attacking Lebanon and if it makes any sense at all. In my opinion, it does not. The rest, as terrible as it is, is just what happens during war, even for the good guys. Read an history book (Dresden, Royan during WWII for example).

[DistressedAmerican]

12. Cover-up?

That is not just "fog of war". That is intentional lies to cover their asses and blame the victims.

Even of it happens in every war,does that excuse it?

[Mass]

13. The US tried to cover up as well as do most countries.

You miss thepoint. WAR IS BAD, end of story. This war should not have been started. We do not disagree on that.

No need to try to paint Israel worse than anybody else, particularly when you happen to live in the USA.

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[Marie26]

14. Massive coverup?

More like a half-assed attempt at propaganda that was exposed almost immediately. Why do that? Because that's what armies do. From Baghdad Bob to Bush's slick WMD campaign, propaganda is a typical tool of the military. "Truth is the first casualty of war," and all that. Why bomb the building? I don't know. None of the reasons they've floated has panned out. Now the IDF is saying that they hit the building because rockets were launched from the area earlier. It'll take an international investigation (and that is necessary) to find the real reason why this was done. Why do they do this? Why does the US, or the UK, or Russia do this? War is hell. International law is shredded, and there's no rules anymore.

[Moderator]

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