Email I got from neocon grandmother

[LT TX]

Great info to share! God bless America:)

Subj: Can a Muslim be a good American???

Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.

Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and Deliberation ....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish ...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.

In light of this is it possible to have a democracy in Iraq? The war is bigger than we know.
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Has anyone ever seen this email???? I think she has officially gone over to the "dark side." What is scary is people actually BELIEVE this stuff!

[bryant69]

1. Saw that posted at Townhall yesterday

in the comments of one article. Filthy stuff.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Agnomen]

14. Tell grandma you were adopted

[pointblank]

2. Gee

and the repukes wonder why they are compared to Hitler and the Nazi party so much....

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

3. "Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist"...they agree: Wrong to invade Iraq

:shrug:

[Efilroft Sul]

15. Better stated, democracy and religious fundamentalism can't co-exist.

I think democracy can work in the Islamic world when it isn't imposed upon society by an outside force, i.e. Iraq. I think democracy can work in Lebanon and Palestine provided the fundamentalists there aren't radicalized by an external force (Israel, Iran, United States). For what it's worth, democracy works quite well in India where millions of Muslims reside.

On the flip side, democracy sometimes struggles in places like Alabama. Christian fundamentalists there can be as hostile to democracy as, say, the Taliban.

[ck4829]

4. How can someone be a "good American" based on

being Theological, Scriptural, and Religious?

[Warpy]

5. This is pure hate

not to mention completely inaccurate. The only people who could possibly believe any of it are people who have never met a Muslim. Sadly, that's the majority in the lily white suburbs in this country.

You can substitute the word "Christian" for much of this, of course.

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. And can a fundagelical XN be a good American?

[Skidmore]

7. You could probably create a similar catalog using

Christianity as the religion.

[havocmom]

8. Why waste Skinner's band width posting propaganda in its entirty?

Always puzzles me when people do that. If we all posted all the dumb email we get, the internets would fall over from the traffic. ;)

[hobbit709]

9. Substitute Jesus for Allah

and you get the same ideas. The fundie nutjobs just don't realize their vision of America is identical.

[babylonsister]

10. IMO, this should be removed from DU. Filthy! nt

[k_jerome]

11. respond with some of the stuff posted about xtians on here...

eye for an eye.

[Efilroft Sul]

12. Tell her you disagree, then ask her if she'll think better of you if...

...you die on the sands of Iraq so the bingo bus can run on cheaper gas.

[ClassWarrior]

13. Here, send this one to Granny...

And post it at Town Hall too.

Subj: Can a Christian be a good American???

Can a devout Christian be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Christ, or at least his fundamentalist ministers' warped interpretation of Christ (see below).

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the Bible, or at least his fundamentalist ministers' warped interpretation of select portions of the Bible (because most can't be bothered to read it themselves).

Socially, no. Because his fundamentalist ministers discourage him from making friends with anyone who's not Christian.

Politically, no. Because he must submit to fundamentalist ministers, who teach armageddon and the destruction of anyone who isn't Christian.

Domestically, no, because he is instructed to treat his wife as an inferior creature, not an equal human being.

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Christ except his particular sect of Christianity.

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on secular principles and he believes anyone who isn't Christian is corrupt.

Philosophically, no, because Christianity, Christ, and the Bible do not allow freedom of religion and expression.

Democracy and Christianity cannot co-exist. Every Christian government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," Christian fundamentalists insist that that means their God and only their God.

Therefore after much study and deliberation... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL CHRISTIANS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Christians and good Americans. Call it what you wish... it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.

In light of this is it possible to have a democracy in the United States? The war is closer than we know.

NGU.

[JHB]

16. Of course, if Granny happens to be Catholic...

...just remind her that they used to say the same about Catholics.

[mcscajun]

19. Nicely done, and SOMEbody Had to Do It.

"Grandma" and those like her should get this back in their faces whenever they peddle this vile crap.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

24. wow

:applause:

[bowens43]

17. Such ignorance. Your grandmother is a sick, sick woman.

[Demit]

18. Where does she get that the Constitution is based on Biblical principles?

That one thing alone betrays the ignorance of all the rest of the claptrap she sent you. Granny needs to read up.

[mcscajun]

20. I did a little sleuthing...this one has an author.

The earliest place I could find this was the site of the Tabernacle Baptist Church, Lubbock Texas (why am I not surprised?) from their April 2006 page: http://www.tbaptist.com/pbc/2006/pbc0604.html

The citation at the bottom of this screed ascribes authorship to a Dr. A. Shorrosh, described as "A former Muslim who converted to Christianity." More info on him here: http://www.islam-in-focus.com/Aboutus.htm

He seems to be a Rush Limbaugh favorite. No surprise there, either.

[LT TX]

22. Thanks

for the information. Last November she emailed a lot of garbage about gay marriage and I got mad, hit reply all, and blasted her. She finally agreed to disagree and said she wouldn't email me any more political garbage since we obviously disagreed. Now it is starting again. I suppose my next step is to block her from my email. I hate to do that, but she will not respect my wishes.

[mcscajun]

23. Sometimes you just have to do that.

If people won't be considerate and have respect for your wishes, then you take action. Regrettable to cut off a family member's access, but hey, it's Your Life and your Inbox.

[LostinVA]

21. Granny's author has been reading their Jack Chick tracts...

The "Moon God" part is a dead giveaway!

[warrens]

25. It would take about five minutes to do one about christians

The hardcore think jesus trumps government every time. Or their view of jesus, anyway.

[librechik]

28. check post #27

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Repalce this with Catholic and Rome

same shit, different spin

[librechik]

27. Subj: Can a Fundamentalist Christian be a Good American?

Subj: Can a Fundamentalist Christian be a Good American?

Can a Fundamentalist Christian be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Jesus, the Sun God of Judea.

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and The Holy Bible, not the Constitution.

Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Israel, where the final battle of Judgement Day must occur, and to which he turns in abjectness.

Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Christianity forbids him to make friends with Jews, Catholics, and ordinary non-churchgoing folk.

Politically, no. Because he must submit to James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson, who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of the rest of America (excluding themselves) which they regard as Satanic.

Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women sequentially and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Leviticus)

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by the Fundamentalist Christian God, who forbids worship of any other.

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is NOT based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible is infallible and the only lawful guide to behavior.

Philosophically, no, because the Fundamentalist God, Jehovah, does not allow freedom of religion and expression--all those who =do not accept Vhrist as the only savior are condemned to burn in hell forever, including the Founding Fathers.

Democracy and Fundamentalist Christianity cannot co-exist. Every Theocratic government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," Fundamentalist Christians mean their God only, and those who do not pledge allegiance to that God will burn in hell forever.

Therefore after much study and Deliberation ....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL Fundamentalist Christians in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Christians and good Americans. Call it what you wish ...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.

In light of this is it possible to have a democracy in America? The war is bigger than we know.
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[ThomWV]

29. Some Might Suggest that Catholics Are Indeed Christians Too

But then there are many who deny it. So who knows?

[cgrindley]

30. I know it's tongue in cheek but it's basically true

No religious fundamentalist, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew etc can really give complete and unqualified support to a democracy. Imagine what would happen to a nation if everyone followed Mark 10:21 to the letter.