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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:39 PM
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I just read this post on Huffington.com and I had to share.....
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 01:43 PM by TheDebbieDee
and thought, "Hey, this is the kind of $hit I would say in defense of stem cell research, if I were articulate enough!" :hi:

Christians have always been wrong. They have been at war with science and reason from the start. They have always tried to stop any kind of advancement. When the early pioneers of photography were inventing the camera, the christians said that not only was it impossible, it was blaphemous to try to capture God's images on paper.

When the Wright brothers were inventing flight, the christians were right there with "if God had intended for man to fly, we would have been born with wings." When Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod, it was blaphemous to try to control what God did with His lightning. And meanwhile, over the next few decades, about 100 monks died because they had to ring the church bells during thunderstorms.

The church arrested and tortured Gallileo when he said that the earth revolved around the sun and not vice versa.

And now they are against stem cell research. But you know what? When medical breakthroughs come from stem cell research, the christians will surely reap the benefits from them. As far as I'm concerned, all christians should have to live like the Amish.

Throughout history they have been against every advancement that humanity came up with, but they are always there to reap the benefits from them afterwards. Hypocrites. All of them.

By: ProudHeathen on July 25, 2006 at 09:37am

ETA: Moderators, the paragraph breaks are mine and not the original poster's.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:54 PM
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1. another interesting note
is that while Europe was in what they called "The Dark Ages", Islamic scholars kept the ideas and science from the ancients alive and, through trade, brought in new ideas to the area, such as the number system we use today, which came from India.
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Jensen Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:56 PM
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2. Just this week I told my minister friend who has had a heart
by pass the same thing...."He prayed and then went straight to the hospital to ease his pain"! He did not take that well!

Christianity vs Science
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:56 PM
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3. Sorry, most of this is complete nonsense.
Because Christians believed in a rational Creator, they believed the universe was based on rational laws that humans could discover and understand--and that by finding these laws, humans would understand God and theology better. By the 12th century, scholars were already asking scientific questions and formulating what we now know as the scientific method. This culminated in the tremendous discoveries of scientists such as Isaac Newton, who was a deeply religious believer.

There have been conflicts between the Church and science, Galileo being a prime example (by the way, he was never actually tortured). Also evolution. But nothing in scripture says anything about the morality of flight, photography, or lightning control. (I don't recall ever reading that serious religious complaints were ever made about any of these.)

And in this modern age, there are plenty of Christians at the very forefront of science. For example, Francis Miller is a leading evolutionist, whose book Finding Darwin's God explains why "intelligent design" is poor theology and worse science. (Miller is a devout Roman Catholic.) Also, the director of the government's project to sequence the human genome (Francis Collins) is a devout evangelical Christian.

It might be gratifying to mock or ridicule believers. But not only is this no more than ill-informed bigotry, it is extremely bad politics (if we convince Red America that we think they're idiots for being religious, do you suppose they'll vote for our progressive candidates?).
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:56 PM
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4. It's not just Christians. This kind of thing probably started before
people crawled out of caves. Imagine some cave dweller watching another do a picture on a wall. He probably grunted the equivalent of, "If Og wanted that, he would have invented paint."
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:59 PM
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5. "The Christians"? Kind of a broad brush,no? Luddites come in all faiths
and speaking of hating progress... there are PLENTY of Materialists who absolutely refuse to acknowledge where cutting edge interdispliinary Science is heading... towards the investigation of Consciousness and how it underlies Reality.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:00 PM
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6. When medical breakthroughs come from stem cell research ..
These "Christians" will push and shove and elbow their way to the head of the line to reap the benefits. It is their nature.
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