Crazy lady in Kansas takes on the vulgar 'Spencer's Gifts' stores!

[mopaul]

saw it on the local kansas city news, my son told me about it, he works at a local spencer's gifts in the mall. she was on t.v. whining pitifully about how vulgar the gifts are there, body lotions, scented lubricants etc., which the corporate office told the stores to put out front for valentine's day.

but what really tripped her trigger was a small figurine of an ass with a pen stuck in it, a vulgar but humorous pen holder. maybe she thought it promoted anal sex.

but, it's just another jab at secularism by the pleasure and humor police, like the ones picketing 'the book of daniel' on t.v., they must have miserable, dull, lonely lives.

[AspenRose]

1. She doesn't have anything else better to do?

Like perhaps raise money for body armor for our soldiers?

Nah, that's not important. :sarcasm:

[raccoon]

26. She must not have to work. nt

[KitchenWitch]

2. keerhyst!

Spencers has had "vulgur" gifts since at least the 1970s. A fine purveyor of plastic puke and whoopie cushions...

There has got to be some sort of brain surgery available to infuse a fucking sense of humor into these people!

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. It was worth a giggle or two. I can't imagine that adolescence will

ever be the same without Spencer's gift. We'll all end up growing up so repressed that we'll hate everyone and vote Republican.

[shaniqua6392]

3. As a Christian wife and mother, I have only one thing to say....

I love Spencer's scented lubricant. Teee Heeee Heeee! Oh and I sent my Dem Dad a "Meet the Focker's" T-shirt for his birthday to wear in front of my Repug step-mother who voted for Bush because he was a fellow Texan!!! Yep. I asked the Lord for forgiveness right after I sent him the shirt in the mail.

[madaboutharry]

4. I once bought a great set of Tiki glasses

at Spencer gifts!!!

[tenshi816]

8. Me too!

I also bought a Tiki bobble-head figurine and a Tiki salad bowl at the same time. I figured if I was going to do kitsch, I might as well go all out.

[madaboutharry]

18. If you are interested,

you can enhance your tiki awareness at the website http://www.tikinews.com/ Believe it or not there is a huge Tiki sub-culture!!!!

[tenshi816]

98. What a find -

great site, thanks!

For some reason I now crave a cocktail involving fruit and a little paper umbrella.

[0007]

94. I heard they even had talking didoes & they called em Rodney

[FreedomAngel82]

5. Oh good grief

Don't like the store? Don't go there! Good grief. I'm getting so sick of this! People go there for gag gifts for adults and the like. They also have some cute Carebear stuff and other 80's stuff there. I'm getting sick and tired of all these people intruding on lives just because they can! Learn some freakin manners!

[kevinbgoode]

6. Ahh..the religiously correct strikes again. . .

and, of course, the culture police demand that the entire city adhere to their personal, CHOSEN, 'deeply-held" beliefs.

[acmavm]

11. They're not religious. They're insane. Think that they 'know'

best. Think that they're so special that they should be the judge of everyone's morals. They should jusdge what's acceptable and what isn't.

And all the while their family would just like to put themselves out of her misery.

[Solly Mack]

7. She doesn't get out too much does she?

If Spencer's sends her off the deep end - she's living in her own little world. (and she really needs to stay there and stop pestering others)

[ComerPerro]

10. God save us from people who think they are doing God's work

Heard that line on the WB's Supernatural last night

[SharonAnn]

71. "God laid it on my heart to do this" is a common phrase here.

Really scary. I've heard it used to justify some of the most ignorant, unethical and illegal things.

The justification that "God laid it on my heart" is supposed to be unquestioned and we're all supposed to believe that God wants it.

[jellybeancurse]

12. God, these people.

Lets hope that they never figure out that its French! :eyes:

<http://www.buyfrenchnow.com/buy.html>

[BiggJawn]

13. Did she see the "Personal Vibrators"?

Maybe she should buy one and take it home and play with it...
With or without the scented lubricant, but I'm guessing she don't have much of the home-grown stuff, so she better buy the economy size....

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. If the store bothers her, she doesn't have to shop there

She can avoid that part of the mall, or avoid the mall altogether. I remember when Spencer Gifts first came to a mall near where I lived. I thought they would have kitchen gadgets like their catalog had, and went in. At the time I was single and not dating, and the contents of the store embarrassed me. But I never once thought that the store should be shut down-I just avoided it. Sheesh!

[BushOut06]

15. I'll never forget the day I was forced at gunpoint into Spencers

Almost as bad as the day I was forced at gunpoint into our local adult video store!

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Sounds like she needs to find a better quality outlet

to meet her needs for body lotions and scented lubricants. If a particular outlet doesn't give you the quality you've become accustomed to, it doesn't do any good to whine about it on national TV.

[foreverdem]

17. For someone that was so offended

it sure sounds like she took enough time looking at all the stuff to figure out what it was. I don't know about her, but if I am offended by something, I am not going to spend much time looking at it.

I always loved Spencer Gifts, even as a teen, I could spend hours in that place, you could never find the stuff they had in there anyplace else. We used to even get the catalog at my house.

[insane_cratic_gal]

19. If the pen holder ass was in the window

I'd request they move it off the display and back into the store. I have an 8 yr old, I don't wanna explain why a pen in the ass is funny.

I don't think it promotes anal sex, but I still don't need my kid to see it either.

I'm fine with and have used Spencer's lotions and edible panties LOL! I don't care that it's on display, but ya I'd ask them to move ass out of the window. Call me a prude.

[lectrobyte]

23. if you have an 8 year old, they already know why the pen in the

ass is funny. Sorry, but South Parth really nails life in the 3rd and 4th grades. But don't worry, it's not the end of the world.

[insane_cratic_gal]

25. I don't let my kid watch South park either

she's 8! I like Spencer's gifts, but it's an adult store, or at least PG-13.

I'd prefer if you left the patronizing right along side the pen.

[lectrobyte]

32. No patronization intended. Just pointing out that South Park

captures the way 3rd graders talk to each other, judging by my memories of what life was like back then, and what my sisters used to say to each other.

[DS1]

28. Amen to that

:eyes:

Why is a pen in a butt funny? Boy, you're going to live a boring life.

[Touchdown]

34. Yes. Heaven forbid you see a butt joke while

your teaching your 8 year old the fine American responsibility and patriotism of worshipping consumer culture at the mall temple of acquisition.;)

[mopaul]

36. i've seen SO many young lives RUINED by butt jokes

i'm just being a smart ass, with a pen in my butt.

[insane_cratic_gal]

45. Ya but a pen up the ass is all the rave in education

Lets just expose her to Maple Thorpe too (Whom I am a fan btw). I can then show her a side by side of a Whip up someones ass and then the Pencil ass holder is a classic example of free speech put on display in a Temple of shopping.

That's right where it belongs after all. Right beside the payless shoe store for the new sneakers I'm going to get her because she's outgrown her others. It's a wonderful display of responsibility to allow my child to walk around in shoes that are too small because i'd be teaching her a consumer mentality. Just suck it up kid! It just happens the only shoe store in town is in a Mall. Persecute me for my worshiping ways!

I'm not worthy of a liberal acceptance because I disagree that an ass eating pencil holder should on display in the front window.

[REP]

101. It's "Mapplethorpe" - One Word

Being a fan and all, thought you'd like to know. Being a big fan and all, your probably know about his flower series, and that it's completely appropriate for kiddies, right? That his work wasn't all erotic? I mean, since you're a fan of his work, you know about his portraits, right? Right?

[insane_cratic_gal]

111. Why yes I do know of them

thanks for the spelling correction? I'm not going to bite on the snide comments, it's rather condescending and wasn't really needed.

His flower series is amazing! I don't think his portraits were quite as good as his provocative stuff however.

[Beausoir]

53. I gotta agree with you. They should move it out of the window.

It's not something I'd like to see, much less have my kids see it.

Sounds pretty vulgar. And I have a right to express my opinion on that, just like everyone else.

WTF happend to common sense?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

20. Spencer's Gifts, A.K.A. the Sodom & Gomorrah of useless tchotchkes

A "must-have" item from the "Spencer's Decor" section of their Web Site:



Udo Disco Ball
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's UDO!

The unidentified disco object has landed. It's sole purpose; to light up the dance floor. So, give in to its persuasion and do the hustle.

$19.99

http://www.spencersonline.com/

[lectrobyte]

24. But this device is invaluable when talking with right wing cow orkers

etc.

http://www.spencersonline.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.detail/categoryID/99cecfe9-e9ff-49b0-b901-1cc272c0e364/productID/06d51a6c-7f30-4bcc-a6f9-ef0aa507f496/

[chat_noir]

29. What questions would you ask a Fundy?

Shocking Liar

Sometimes the truth hurts, but if you lie its really gonna hurt! Strap your victim in and follow the set up procedure, then start the questioning. If they tell a lie the machine will zap them with a well deserved shock. Battery operated.

http://www.spencersonline.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.detail/categoryID/85f575e2-d8ae-4492-a78e-2a4d9cfd613e/productID/7df13afc-5320-4b18-9c23-b0741dce68b7/

[chat_noir]

21. Sharon Hodle is from Olathe - Fundy suburb

Olathe, Ks is a white-flight community of those who can't afford the wealthier suburban cities on the Kansas side of the state line.

[lectrobyte]

22. Doesn't the Bible say something about if thine eye offend thee,

pluck it out? If only she were half as worried about something that might really matter...

[donheld]

27. Who forced this bitch to go in the store?

If she doesn't like it she should stay the hell out.

[insane_cratic_gal]

30. It was a window display

at least that is what I got from the original poster

[seabeyond]

39. i too have always had that attitude. i never had an issue with spencer

prior to kids i went into spencer often and had a blast. it had been quite a while since in a mall, i dont like to shop. i have a couple little ones and said, oh oh i remember this is a fun store. i forgot about the back, lool.

since, i have always allowed my kids to walk into the front and stay out of back. we have had a blast in spencer. and i appreciate the fact that spencer keep the stuff in the back. i know where ot keep my kids. compromise. hasting does the same thing. we spend a lot of time in our local hastings. i like to know what the boundary is, and i like companies that look at it in a compromising way that is win win for all

bringing it to front of store,....... went over that boundary. i dont appreciate that.

i dont take this lite, and i dont make big to do's over it,....... but i am willing to see it from all side, including the people running business, and making money. i feel they too have every right

i dont think working together is a bad thing

[insane_cratic_gal]

47. hear hear

I agree 100 percent. I love Spencer's too but if that was in a window display, then I can understand why someone would take issue with it.

Lotions, and pink furry handcuffs.. Spencer's probably is responsible for 100's of birth a year, or at least a good sex life.

But like you i've always appreciated that I can take my daughter in at Halloween and look around, she loves it the store. But i've always been able to keep her from going to the more adult sections by avoiding the back area.

[seabeyond]

31. leave the f*in store alone, and put the SHIT to the back of the store

so kids can walk thru the mall without a plastic male fuckin a plastic female, or so a pen isnt sticking out of someones ass

it is called compromise. it is letting go of a battle to inclusively win a war. it is just fuckin gettin along. really not nearly as hard as so many want to make it

[sinkingfeeling]

33. I find people who complain that something is 'vulgar', vulgar.

[seabeyond]

35. of course looking at it only from you agenda driven perspective

are you suggesting your adult world should infringe on my childs world. or are you concluding, if this shit isnt good for a child,..... that malls become pg13, pg17 and we all stay out, if we have kids. just let me know what the rules are, so i can do my parental duties. this is all i ask. everyone says it is the parents job. i am tryin to do mine. let me know. and it is not the only store that is doing this in the mall. may not be your issue, but with little kids, it is my issue

so you can just see it from your perspective, and coming up with no "everyone is a winner" solution.

or

you can be reasonable. and actually listen to the other side. i dont think i am asking too much, and not asking for you to lose a damn thing, i am asking for people to be reasonable.

[mopaul]

38. and what about that vulgar 'victoria's secret' display?

and all those vulgar movies at blockbuster, and all the vulgar underwear at the jone's store?

[seabeyond]

43. i resent the hell having victoria go the direction it has for many

reasons. i am talking company, how they have redirected their focus from the female and empowering her, to the male. enticing the male to want from female. as a male something you probably wouldn't understand. but vs did an excellent job empowering female sexuality, and female embracing their sexuality. they changed their company a couple years ago, for profit, ..... but it was a bad move. it literally took the power from female. the female role merely to turn on male. for the male. not the female.

now mopaul i am being pretty honest, looking to understand one another, not here for just, attack....... we do a lot on this board. but i am taking your question seriously.

no, i dont want to take kids past a display of soft porn. they use to have a store front that was respectful to all. like my serious post about spencer. the company understood they had an obligation to all. both vs and spencer stepped it up a notch for profit.

so tell me. if it is becoming an environment i dont want my children to participate in at a very young age, let me know. i dont have to go to the mall. i think i am being fair. dont now how much more fair i can be, or cooperative.


what i am saying, i am sorry you cannot understand the people that are getting bothered by it. i am willing to not go to mall. but then i dont like malls, i dont like spending money, i dont like to shop. not a huge sacrifice

i just think this is not a hard one, to compromise on, ..... i just dont think it has to be a battle. a fight. i think it is a waste of time

[mopaul]

44. i've raised 3 kids to adulthood, my youngest works at spencer's

they've been in there hundreds of times with no ill effects, and they always had to walk past victoria's secret and have suffered no ill consequences.

but yes, as a parent, i do understand your side.

[seabeyond]

48. no you obviously dont since you put me in my place, absolutely

your kids are adults. big difference from a couple decades and today. they are inundated with sex. my 8 yr old is reading billboards, 16 preg no future, dont abort, or get help....... bumper stickers, gays are sinners going to hell. stop the liberals from killing babies.

my kids are so advance to knowing the worlds crisises.... or your kids that weren't babies during 9/11........ you are not even tryin to understand i dont think. so i challenge you on that. you know what we sing in this house, rhandi rhodes friday bounce your boobie..... you know why. my kids, and 13 yr old niece are being fed such an adult sexual world, in an environment where i keep the shit out of our house. they are being fed this in commercials that just pop up on kid channel. they get it from disney that portray a friggin ten yr old in sexuality the way they use to reserve for 16 yr olds. on the other hand, they are getting the religious, fundamental shit in the most perverted, repressed retarded way/........ my kids, are being fucked with, from the adult world and you all telling me. deal with it. well i do

we sing bounce your boobie, cause it is funny as hell. my youngest boy loves it. my oldest turns brite red and my niece, who is big boob at 13 and having 24 yr old waiters rubbing their crotch on her..... in restaurants, wears a bra 24 hours, slumps her shoulders, and say, boys at school act like retards with boobs. i am just saying the word boob to bring nakedness into our house in a natural accepting way. to condition my kids away from the retarded the world brings in

cause you all dont have a problem with it, you tell me i shouldn't either. i do. do i stay out of the malls. is this what you decide for me.

piss me off

next you will tell me i dont like sex. generally how a man argues this. challenge me.... on my sexuality. ask me..... what MY problem is.

[mopaul]

49. please don't hurt me, i give up

[seabeyond]

52. thanks for you understanding and support mopaul.

i dont think this is a challenging one. but one you dont want to let go. rock on

[Horse with no Name]

51. I know what you mean

My daughter (who is 20) and I were in the mall and walked by a Victoria's Secret and there was a mannequin with a very "S&M" outfit on.
I wasn't offended by it, but my daughter and I just laughed and said WOW.
I think maybe it wouldn't hurt to put those things inside the store, but hey, what do I know?

[sinkingfeeling]

46. I didn't answer your post. But since you want to make a big deal out

of my wit-ism, I say, 'Get real'. Stop over protecting your children and explain things to them. When you see something 'vulgar', explain why you deem it as such to your children. Everywhere you look in the world, there are unpleasant things. What do you say to your children when you encounter a drunk? A homeless person? An abused animal? Roadkill? Vile sayings on T-shirts?

If I saw a 'butt with a pen in it' on display when my son was 6, I'd say, "that's pretty gross, wonder who that would appeal to?" And then he'd tell me about South Park.

[seabeyond]

50. thank you..... for telling me what to do as a parent

are you really going to have the audacity to think you know shit about what is going on in this house. what i do or dont give my kids. my kids can fuckin take adults down on this shit. we have been talking about this world since 9/11. it is in my kids face every step of the way. my children say to me. why do they have to have this stuff everywhere. so i say, cause this is what the people want. my kids dont want it. so as a parent shouldnt i avoid where i know it is going to be. and then you suggest i am unreasonable. you tell me my job as a parent. dont worry, my kids will never escape this shit. it is always in their face. i am just trying to reduce it a tad for them. but the filth, from all sides, are in kids face. and then we can look at their hopelessness, their spinning out of control, cause i have spent about a decade researching and experiencing that.

lets also talk about the natural process starting with boy/ girl.... to adolescence boy/girl......

i live in a state that a month ago i had to explain to my 8 and 10 yr olds a vote i made. a governor that signed a bill to discriminate against gay in our state constitution in a church. i had to say it in a way for the kids to see all sides of the issue. so they were informed. because their school is political, though they wouldnt admit it. and they bring this stuff up. and my kids have to understand. so they can express, respond reasonably yet stating why discriminating is wrong in any situation, in biblical terms. is that piling enough on 8 and 10 yr old shoulders for you. you really think i need more.

you want to take on my parenting,..... anytime.

[sinkingfeeling]

56. No, I already did that. My son's 36 years old. We all do the best

we can with our children. I discussed everything with my kid. He also read anything he wanted. One of our most heated arguments was over the Prince (now something else) movie, "Purple Rain". I told him I thought it was sexist and he didn't see that at the time. You are free to do whatever you want with rearing your children. I don't think there is a way to 'dodge' around the real world.

[Beausoir]

54. Over protecting because we shield them from trashy pop culture??

Nice try.

It's called class. And my kids have it in spades. We don't find those types of things "cool" or funny in the least and I would prefer they didn't have to see them.

But to compare an infantile pen in the butt set with a homeless person is really low.

[seabeyond]

55. oh didn't even get on the homeless, the poor

the attack, the racism my kids have had to come to terms with and learn and experience and resolve within self before they are even a decade old. seeing what their white male is doing and still love themselves as they accept responsibility of their friggin group. my gosh, this poster and his arrogance. per bush, i get to deal with confederate flags, kkkk signs,...... people saying katrina taking no because of their decadence. i am embracing and loving every black, and poor........just to give my kids the concept of diversity, we give our money freely in all situations we have been presented with. we have children living in filth coming to our home, my boys...... know the political argument of bush taking away from the poor making it harder and harder, as he gives to the rich, the boys other side of the family

f* him if my kids haven't had to totally merge into that world, pain in their hearts.... that i have had to do with boys, so they can be supportive, good, embracing human beings. didn't even get to that stupid part of the post.

[Neecy]

37. typical...

A crazed zealot demanding that others conform to her worldview, that everyone and everything around her must change to accomodate her personal religious beliefs.

This is the kind of bible-thumper who then whines about Christians being 'persecuted' when people resist their edicts.

This isn't about this woman wanting to move an ass with a pen stuck in it out of the display window. That's never good enough - she'll end up wanting the store shut down. That's how these people operate.

[catmandu57]

40. I saw that also

My god these people are just insane. The display was on the counter by the cash register, she could have left her stuff on the counter and left, but no.
This woman has to show her iq to the world, if I knew where she lived I'd buy one and send it to her.

[mopaul]

41. my son said this happens more frequently than shop lifting

he says they get several humor police a week in there whining about something that offended their delicate sensibilities. i guess 'get a life' would be lost on them.

[mopaul]

42. surprisingly, she WASN'T wearing a burkha,

just as bold as you please with no veil over her face or nothin'

[Beausoir]

57. Should Spencers put this in the front window? Is this acceptable as well?

or..am I just being a bad, over-protective parent because I don't find it funny and don't want my children to see it?

This is from Spencers website, btw. Right from the source.

[mopaul]

58. you can see spencers from a block off, you can cover their eyes

till you get one block past it.

[Beausoir]

So...that pen in the genital set is ok by you for the front window?

Just wondering.

[mopaul]

60. yes, o.k. by me, i'll go shoot myself

[Beausoir]

62. Don't shoot yourself.

Look, I love Spencer's and have bought my fair share of those adult items..body frostings, etc. They have great Halloween stuff and lava lamps, etc.

I just think we need to have some common sense.

I don't want my children being exposed to pen-in-the-ass or pen-in-the-vagina sets in the front window of a store at the mall. That doesn't make me a bad parent. In fact, it makes me a pretty damn good one.

[seabeyond]

64. yes, it is ok for you. ok for me. is it ok for a child?

thinking little girl looking at that, well aware of her body, and the self message it will give to her. i just have sons. i am bothered with this more for a little girl

just tell me, is this ok for a little 5, 6, 13 yr old girl to see?

[EFerrari]

68. If we shoot ourselves over every unimaginative parent

that wants to censor the world instead of care for their children, well, we'd need better than Kaiser. lol

[seabeyond]

69. are you suggesting i dont care for my children?

now really, i wnat to know. because i argue this. you must be saying i am unimaginative, i am oh lordy, censoring the adult world (which i am told by you all turn the channel, it IS my job) that is horrible of me. ergo i dont care for my children?

this is your argument

[Beausoir]

70. We ARE caring for our children! That's the point.

For many of us, keeping this kind of misogynistic trash away from kids IS part of being a good parent.

I can't imagine deliberately exposing my children to something like that. And I don't think little girls and boys should have to see that in the front window of a store at the mall. If that makes me unimaginative (?), so be it.

So far, it's working for my family. My kids are lovely and kind people.

[Neecy]

74. but I thought the stuff *wasn't* in the front window...

Didn't Paul say it was by the registers? And where are you getting this imaginary scenario of the pen in the genitals in the window? You just made that up out of whole cloth after going to their online store.

Look, as a kid I wandered through Spencer's a lot. It hardly damaged me.

[mopaul]

77. to clarify: the butt pen wasn't in the window

but vulgar valentine's day gifts, body lotions, scented lubricants, you know, nasty stuff. but the butt pen holder was not in the front window, but i'm sure this lady would have discovered it, the sex nazis are always on patrol

[Neecy]

82. that's what I thought...

First, kids have NO idea what those lotions and lubricants are for, so they'd hardly be shocked walking by them. My god, I'd hate to see some of our posters here walk through an Osco's drugs - however would you explain some of those personal items?

How this turned into a butt pen/genitalia pen in the window issue is really kind of strange, like an odd game of telephone.

[insane_cratic_gal]

83. It was at the REGISTER

[Neecy]

89. oh, now THAT makes a difference (not)...

If it was in the window, then hordes of unlucky children would be forced perchance to see a depiction of a guy with a pen up his ass.

Okay, whatever, I'll agree that if it was in the window it would be questionable.

People know what Spencer's is. They have a choice to just not go in if they don't want their kids to see something that isn't age appropriate. But it is a choice and people need to accept the consequences and not moan and bitch like it's the end of the world.

[Beausoir]

88. I take credit for the butt-pen/genitalia issue. Snerk.

I just thought it was an interesting debate.

[insane_cratic_gal]

80. My kid checks out with me too

So I'd ask if you could just keep it in the back.



When I bring my kid into Spencer's (usually during halloween) I know not to go to a certain section. I'd like to keep that way, it really is just a simple consideration.

[Beausoir]

81. You are right..I made the whole thing up as a hypothetical.

Just to spark some debate.

And what do you know? It worked!

[EFerrari]

78. You've made my case. I don't think kids should see that cr@p

either. So, I didn't hypocritically buy the cr@p and then condemn the store. I WALKED MY KIDS IN ANOTHER DIRECTION because my kids were MY JOB, not some chain store's job.

Sheesh.

[Beausoir]

86. Who said anything about BUYING it?

The crap shouldn't be on display in the front window. Is that such a terrible concept?

Hell, put it in the middle of the store...put it two shelves in from the front. Put it in the back..put it off to the side. Just don't put it in the front window so when my 6 year old child walks by she sees it.

What is so hard to comprehend about that. Is it THAT unreasonable to ask of a merchant?

Honestly, I do everything I can to be a good parent and it's this constant barrage of insults because I don't want my kids exposed to this kind of nasty shit.

Self edit to remove an insult.

[EFerrari]

90. Yes, shame on me. I think parents should raise children.

And you did:

"Look, I love Spencer's and have bought my fair share of those adult items..body frostings, etc. They have great Halloween stuff and lava lamps, etc. "

:eyes:

[Beausoir]

92. So by raising kids, you mean expose them to anything and everything?

I guess we'll just agree to disagree on that point. So far, my strange brand of parenting has been working out really well!

Love the little eye rolling smilie though! How cute!

Have a good day. (And sorry I said "shame on you". I edited it out of my previous post.)

[EFerrari]

97. No, "by raising kids" I mean that it was my job to take care of them

And not to expect a corporation to do my work. We do disagree, and in the bigger scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

But you know something, the MOMENT I start censoring other people, an alarm goes off for me.

Even in this thread. I have no business telling you how to parent. And if we carry this ethic far enough, we'll be all right. :)

[seabeyond]

61. oh that isnt retarding a kid. oh no. making a huge deal and cover their

eyes. why dont i just be a fundie too. good answer. that is what i will be doing and teaching my kids.

or mopaul, they can keep it in the back of the store. i dont know why you are even arguing this. i do not get the issue. i dont understand why people arent being reasonable

picture all the mama's and daddy's putting a hand over eyes to walk by. good parenting tip.

[mopaul]

65. perhaps electro shock therapy or ritalin will erase the horrors

that their poor eyes have beheld.

[insane_cratic_gal]

63. Right because they can't move it to the back

because we'd be giving into the RW christian wackados! What about us liberal Mom's and Dad's who just don't want our kids to have to see it? Too bad for us? This isn't an issue of US against THEM. You aren't losing anything by conceding that it should be back on the shelf.

Bullshit, just move it out of the window and into the adult section in the back of the store. If I want my child to see it, I can walk her back there and giggle over it.

That's all we are asking for, just respect that we might not want it on display.

[Beausoir]

67. Sometimes we get so caught up in the battle that we can't see simple logic

I despise the fundie wackos that are trying to force their beliefs down my throat but that does NOT mean I approve of vulgar, tasteless public displays by merchants.

Common sense.

[Bridget Burke]

73. Gosh, thanks for the sacrifice of your time!

You actually went to that Site of Evil for a thorough investigation! What other evil stuff were you FORCED to see?

[Beausoir]

75. I just thought a visual aid would be helpful. Sorry if it offended you.

If you bother to read through the posts, you'll see that I SHOP at Spencer's.

Way to go.

[BuddhaGirl]

59. jesus christ, that woman should get a grip

our society is soooo repressed about sexuality. A few lotions and other accoutrements in a mall store window? Big deal. Just like the people who whine about Victoria's Secret's store windows.

Don't like them? Don't look at them for chrissakes!

[mopinko]

66. we will know we have arrived as a species, when

we accept ourselves for who we really are. which is to say, sexual, hierarchical beings. pleasure is incredibly important to us. look at it this way- during our evolution, we shed our fur. now, what does that mean? i think that it means that skin to skin contact was more important that staying warn. think about that.

[Crankie Avalon]

72. Another closet degenerate, I guarantee it...

...these prudes are all secret perverts. Going on about how "vulgar" and "immoral" something is just gives them the excuse they need so they can wallow in what they desire most. They can't get enough!

[Bridget Burke]

76. So why didn't she complain to the Store Manager?

Or call the corporate office?

Did she even use the "my kids will see it" excuse? Or was she just personally offended?

[mopaul]

79. her prescious kids, and yes she called everybody including the t.v.

[dogday]

84. Don't like the gifts at Spencer's? Then don't shop there

what the f**k? Just don't go to the store and you won't be offended....

[insane_cratic_gal]

85. Point is we do like it!

3 of us here are just saying.. hey you think you could remove the ass pen to the back? It's sitting at the register when you check out.

[dogday]

87. Spencer's is famous for it's unique gifts

There are some funny trashy things in the store. You know that before you step foot in it. I love to shop there. The ass pen thing sounds just up my alley, so to speak...

[insane_cratic_gal]

91. I agree

but most times there not so kid friendly stuff is in the back.

I don't normally allow my daughter to go in. She'll ask if we walk by it but I always tell her there are too many inappropriate thing in there for her age.
The only time we do go in is during Halloween by then I hope they moved the ass pen to the adult section or the back of the room. I only allow her to look around the front of the store. So I've made some choices to help shelter her from the merchandise they carry, they've made some good choices by moving it to the back. I'm just saying why not keep to their tradition and move it to the back?

But if the pen is at the register I kinda can't hide that from her can I? Of course there are worse things in life then a pen sticking out of someone's ass or a vagina, but it is still vulgar.

I guess what I am asking for as are the other 3 is a little common respect for a consumer just move the suggestive stuff to the back. We all know that's where it is and most parents if they go in at all, avoid the back area and the card section

[Beausoir]

93. I guess it's just too much to ask for...

a little common sense..a little courtesy.

All of the sudden, anyone who doesn't want their kids exposed to this crap is a terrible parent.

We are through the looking glass on this one.

Thanks for the support though, you sound like a great parent.

[Beelzebud]

95. Reminds me of the dems that want to "ban" violent video games.

If you are never offended, then you aren't living in a free society.

[seabeyond]

96. i dont see anyone including the woman in the story wanting to BAN

anything. if she is suggesting all adult material be taken out of store and not accessable i will fight her on that. so,.... this reminds you of people wanting to BAN from all people

and the people wanting to ban violent videos, is this asking them not be sold to children and having a rating on them so we are informed. is that banning from people. or are you literally saying people want to remove all violent games so no one can get them. because i would oppose that too.

i dont see keeping them out of childrens hands and rated as banning them from adults though. and i dont see a single suggestion to ban adult stuff from adults.

[REP]

99. Won't SOMEBODY Think Of The CHILDREN??!!1!

Omigod, those products make people think of sex, and we all know what sex leads to ... children. Won't somebody please stop this madness?

[EFerrari]

100. Sometimes, they make people think of Hallowe'en, too.

I remember walking by a Fredrick's of Hollywood as a kid and thinking it must be a costume shop. lol

[REP]

102. Bubble-Wrap the World - For The Children!

You must have been so traumatized by seeing underwires and girdles! I still am - and I wear underwires!

[Ms. K]

103. I guess having nothing better to do

leads to complaining about Spencer's Gifts.

If you don't want your kids looking at potentially raunchy window displays, for the love of all that's holy, don't take them past it! You can distract them with something else, even if the Payless Shoe Store that you're going to is right next door. I used to do that with my daughter when she was small. I acted like a responsible parent, and didn't expect the store to censor itself just for my kid.

The lamest whine I have ever heard is, "Won't somebody think of the children?!?" We've turned into a somewhat child-centric culture, with no thought at all for anyone else. I don't always want to "think of the children," dammit, especially when I'm out for a night when my daughter is spending the night with a friend, and I can go into Spencer's, or go to a restaurant and have a couple of drinks, or see an R-rated movie. I don't want to think of someone else's children, because their parents ought to be doing that. Don't get me wrong, I have the same level of concern and caring for other people, including children, that any reasonable human being would have. However, why should I be denied watching a movie I'd like to see, just because Suzy Q. can't be bothered to keep HER kids out of the R-rated movie, and now her darling little child is "traumatized" because someone on the screen *gasp* said "fuck"? Why should I be told I can't have a drink at the bar of a restaurant, because there might be someone there with *gasp* children who might SEE me drinking? Hell, why should I have to put up with someone's kid who hasn't been taught to act like a human being instead of a grumpy cat on crack, screaming, yelling, pitching a fit, throwing things, running around, and generally behaving like an asshole, and meanwhile his or her parents are doing absolutely nothing about it?

I mean, Jesus, I taught my kid how to act like a decent human being, at home and in public. She never ran around in a public place, not unless she was in a place where kids were ENCOURAGED to run around, like a park. She never pitched a fit anywhere more than once, and that was because I made good on my threat to pick her up and LEAVE. She never screamed, yelled, threw things, or acted like a brat. She's now 11 years old, and it astonishes me that people are amazed that she is POLITE! Of COURSE she's polite, WE DID OUR JOBS AS HER MOTHER AND FATHER TO SEE THAT SHE LEARNED HOW TO BE!

So, because this woman is "offended" because Spencer's carries "raunchy" gifts, we should cater to HER sensibilities? If you don't like it, don't look. If you don't want your kids to see, either avoid where Spencer's is, or redirect their attention elsewhere until you get where you're going. It's really not that hard. It really isn't that difficult to actually parent, instead of foisting the responsibility off onto someone else, so you can then turn around and blame them when your kid learns something, or sees something, you didn't want them to see or learn.

Kids see and learn about things that we didn't want to discuss with them just yet all the time. I had to have the discussion with my daughter and her friend, her friend's mom and I sat them down together, about oral sex. Why? Because, even at the age of 11, they know girls who are performing oral sex, or at least say they are. We'd rather they know what that's all about, and the possible repercussions, and empower them to say NO, than have them taken by surprise, and possibly taken advantage of.

Sheltering your children from the real world does them no favors in the long run. Being honest with them, and willing to talk and LISTEN, that's good for them.

[NMMNG]

104. Wahhhhh. I was shopping the other day and saw a Christian book store.

I went in and they had all of these books that said gays are abominations who should be put to death. They also had books telling people how to rid the world of the "atheist scourge". What's more, the place was overflowing with Bibles! I don't believe in the Bible, and don't think it should be sold in places where decent, non-believing people might stumble across it.

Not to mention they had this horrible Christian pop music playing the whole time. :cry: My ears nearly began bleeding by the time I was done in there.











*Just in case anyone is unsure, this post is pure :sarcasm:.

[mopaul]

105. for god's sake don't let your kids read that thing!

just get them the noah's ark coloring book, or the young king david play set.

[NMMNG]

107. You mean the Noah who got drunk and fell asleep naked in his tent,

Then cursed his kids for covering him up?


Is King David anatomically correct for when he goes into the cave to relieve himself?

[mopaul]

109. noah's children were sore ashamed

who wouldn't be? if i'm not mistaken, he's the first embarassing sloppy drunk in the bible, typical seaman.

[NMMNG]

110. And didn't his daughters later get him drunk and sleep with him

so they could get pregnant? Funny how the fundies never talk about the family values there. :eyes:

[Misunderestimator]

106. You're joking, but that's a very good analogy.

Non-Christian parents and their children are constantly exposed to indoctrination of that sort... especially around Christmas. And what about Bibles in hotel rooms? I think they should put a little porn right along side it. Or maybe a figurine with a pen in its ass to underline all the sick shit in Leviticus.

[NMMNG]

108. Porn in the hotel rooms is a good idea

Particularly in those that charge by the hour. After all, what are the people there for? Certainly not spiritual guidance. :rofl: