BREAKING ABA: President must veto law if he feels it unconstitutional!

[originalpckelly]

No duh! WOW! These people are masters of the obvious! Our nation is full of a bunch of total idiots, because these people are supposed to be the smart ones.

[Demit]

1. It's not idiotic to state the obvious, if the obvious has never been said.

This is an influential and highly educated group going public, as a group, which has the effect of issuing a formal public challenge. These people ARE the smart ones, regardless of how superior you yourself feel to them.

[originalpckelly]

2. How do I want to put this...

when a special commission has to be established to figure out that the President must veto a bill if he thinks it is unconstitutional, we're in deep shit. When the people of America don't know this, we're in deep shit.

Sorry if I put that in a way that makes myself sound special.

[Hosnon]

7. I disagree. In law, everything must be supported. You can't just say: This

is unconstitutional. To have any value, there must be extensive research and solid reasoning leading to a particular conclusion.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

4. Just watched the press conference of the ABA announcing their

findings on C-Span - it completely eviscerated Chucklenuts and his signing statements. The ABA is going to now push for legislation that if a president issues a signing statement that he has to notify Congress of his actions and they have the ability to override the signing statement. They want to work within the system instead of using other powers like withholding funding, etc. These people haven't gotten the message yet, Chucklenuts, Dead Eye, KKKarl, etc. don't give a damn about no stinkin' laws, funding or anything else that hampers their raping of America.

Well, duh, boys, Chucklenuts will just issue a signing statement negating his responsibility to notify Congress of the signing statements. Like a dog chasing his tail, nothing will come of this.

The overall message that came from these findings is the president is not living up to his oath of office to protect the Constitution which specifically gives powers to each branch of the government.

[WePurrsevere]

8. When the President fails to uphold his oath of office it's an offense that

is REALLY worthy of impeachment and removal... of course we'd need to have a Congress that actually cares about doing THEIR job and upholding THEIR oath of office.

Sadly, you're right about the dog chasing it's own tail and I'm not sure how we can realistically solve this problem any time in the near future.

[Bake]

9. When he tells a Republican Congress to go blow

i.e., issues the signing statement in response to the subject legislation, maybe THEN (????) would the idiots in Congress consider impeaching the bastard?

Let's hope for a Dem majority, at least in the House, this fall.

Bake

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Link to send to media!

http://www.abanet.org/op/signingstatements/

[napi21]

5. Here's a link to the report! It's 34 pages in PDF but good info!

http://www.abanet.org/op/signingstatements/aba_final_signing_statements_recommendation-report_7-24-06.pdf

I watched the ABA presentation on cspan this AM. It was excellent!

You may think people who believe the Prez has the suthority to do signing statements are just stupid, but you have to realize that this same Prez has been saying HE, as Commander in Chief HAS the authority to do them, and many people seem to believe him!

An panel of 11 well respected members of the ABA really needed to research this issue and make their results public! I just hope it gets a lot of coverage and most of the public actually hears aobut it!

[Mnemosyne]

6. I just watched also,

Most excellent, I heartily agree!

Pretty good * has pissed off so many lawyers! hehehe

Now, maybe, someone will listen.