Say it three times very slowly...global warming doesn't exist, global ....

[Horse with no Name]

warming doesn't exist...global warming doesn't exist.
Whew. I feel better now. Don't you?
Of course, this is after record heat here in Texas.
My daughter had to go to the hospital today for heat exhaustion from yesterday--and has been put on bedrest for three days.
What was she doing?
She was simply working.
From what I understand (I don't remember the summer of 80 very well) but this is very much like that summer.
All I know is that it is hotter than hell now and we aren't even in the hottest part of summer. It is supposed to be 103 tomorrow and then drop down to 91 on Saturday. I sure hope they aren't wrong.:(Relief would sure be nice about right now.

[Nikki Stone 1]

1. So sorry to hear about your daughter

It's been hot here in SoCal and we've been having fires already. I dread the next two months.

And I have no A/C, so its been pretty brutal.

[Horse with no Name]

2. I feel for you

It is so hot that it doesn't feel as if the a/c is working, until you go back outside and then come in.
Thank you for your kind words. She is already feeling better after getting some fluid replacements.:hug:

[Nikki Stone 1]

6. It's amazing how easy it is to get dehydrated

My cat and I have been on low speed since I got home.

[LeftCoast]

3. I hope your daughter has a quick recovery

I've been reading lots of stories like this on DU today. Scary stuff!

[Maestro]

4. The summer of 80 was much worse at this point

but I do feel for your daughter. I hope she gets better soon.

[Horse with no Name]

5. I can't for the life of me understand

why I don't remember it.
My Mom said they were trying to have concrete poured that summer, and even at 4 am, it was 100 degrees.
I was 17...I wonder where my head was...:evilgrin:

[Maestro]

13. I can't remember but we had

like 50 or 60 straight days of 100 degree weather. Let me look up some info on that, but it was horrible. I was only teenager then myself but I do remember it.

[Maestro]

14. I found that info

It was 69 days of 100 or better, at least here in Dallas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Wave_of_1980

[Horse with no Name]

16. Thanks for the info

I was just north of Dallas.
I vaguely remember hanging out in Galveston part of that summer, but it is a distant memory...:smoke:

[EST]

9. Where I lived, in the midwest, in 1980,

there was a miserable amount of rainfall from January through April. Then there was zero rain from May until the end of December. We had no a/c and no money for it, especially since the old house I had purchased has no wiring capable of running even a window unit.
I managed to cool one room of the house a little by running a trickle of water from the well through an auto radiator in a window with a fan blowing through that.
We all slept on the floor in the living room. It was crude but it worked.

[EST]

7. While I'll certainly admit this heat is exhausting and unusual,

aside from the misery it's causing, it is actually beneficial and welcome.
It has caused an unusual amount of discussion about global warming and that is commendable, however, this is weather, not climate. What we are experiencing an this minute is hot weather, definitely unusually hot, but not what is possibly killing the world.

[LynneSin]

8. Yeah, global warming sure doesn't exist....

[jerry611]

10. This is what drives me nuts about global warming

I am tired of people blaming every single weather event on global warming. Everyone seems like they can't wait to blame global warming for every hurricane, for every flood, for every thunderstorm, for every heat wave.
There were hurricanes thousands of years ago. There were flood thousands of years ago. There were heat waves and droughts thousands of years ago.

There is going to be fluctuations in the weather. It has never been stable. Some summers will be hotter than others. Some winters will be colder than others. Some hurricane seasons are going to be more active than others.
These type of things have nothing to do with global warming.

Global warming deals with a very, very gradual increase over the period of decades that results in the melting of the polar ice caps and this then floods coastal regions and land with low elevation.

It's not a heat wave or drought everywhere. Here in Florida it is raining every single day. It is raining so much that my lawn is growing faster than I can mow it.

[Horse with no Name]

11. So I am guessing that you don't completely understand global warming?

That's what drives ME nuts, so I guess we are even.:)

[jerry611]

12. Last month everyone was blaming the floods on global warming

Which is stupid because if you study history you know that there have been hundreds of floods even more severe.

Global warming may very well be occuring. And the ice caps may be melting. But I don't believe we are going to see these MASSIVE changes in the weather that everyone is talking about. Katrina is not the worst hurricane to hit the United States in the last 50 years. Camille was. And that was in 1969 when everyone was crying about global cooling. That storm was so strong that the wind gauges broke at 190 mph.

Yet everyone claims Katrina is caused by global warming.

I know this is a very, very politically charged issue. But there is a fine line of what has been proven and what is theory. Global warming is a theory. We can confirm that the world is very slowly warming. However we simply do not have enough data to confirm what the result of this is going to be. We havn't lived on this earth long enough to understand it's climate or its patterns of behavior.

We have found fossils of tropical plants in the artic circle. These plants were growing there 55 million years ago. So we do know for a fact that the ice caps have not always been frozen.

[riderinthestorm]

15. Go see An Inconvenient Truth and then we'll talk

We are facing a catastrophic earth event in our lifetimes if we continue to diminish the realities we are facing daily in our lives.

Please go see this movie.

[jerry611]

18. I've seen it

And it's a theory. You can prove that the world is warming. But you cannot scientifically prove the outcome. You can't do it. That is why everyone seems to have a different theory. I have head people tell me nothing is going happen. On the other side I've had people tell me the world is going to end before 2060.

Which is to be believed? The answer is neither. Because no one can say for certain what's going to happen. This is the biggest debate in climatology and meteorology. And it will be a debate for decades to come.

In science, it takes real data to prove a theory. We can't even predict the weather day to day and you want to predict something 60 years from now?

[Maestro]

17. True it is a theory

just like evolution is a theory, but like evolution, this global warming thing is very real. The Ice Caps melting will result not only in the flooding of coastal areas but will quite likely bring on a new ice age or, at the very least, severely affect the weather of northern Europe and the Norteast Coast of the US on up into Canda. All the freshwater being flushed into the North Altantic ocean is going to wreak havoc on the Gulf Stream. This in turn will cause the northern latitudes to cool down. This will also affect the weather in other areas. How? Well like you said, we haven't been here long enough to know. It's all conjecture, but it will be a radical change. And at any rate, this gradual warming is being hastened by humans and their lust for fossil fuels. There is no debate there, period. So I am not convinced that this is a natural global warming event but one brought about by humans.