Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Minimum wage as a campaign issue? How many min. wage earners vote?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:57 PM
Original message
Minimum wage as a campaign issue? How many min. wage earners vote?
All the elections I've voted, rarely have I seen 'minimum wage' earners at the polls. Minimum wage SHOULD be dramatically increased, that being said I think Dems are again short sighted in whether or not this is actually a campaign issue.

Comments?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. Perhaps a more pertinent question.
How many minimum wage earners WOULD vote if it were a campaign issue?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
2. If we gave them a stake in the process
like RAISING THE DAMN WAGE, they'd have a reason to vote.

Right now they know it's a rich man's game and it's rigged in favor of the rich, so why bother?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. never a better time to get American's to vote.. telll the poor
they'll get more money, drive a bus through the neighborhood on voting day and drive them to their. Remember that stupid movie with Chris Rock in it.. bus driver turned president... Let's get America involved in America and maybe things would change for everyone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
4. There is an entire class of people who have given up hope of change
Honestly, if you wrote your representative and they wrote back thanking you for changing their mind, would you faint? I would.

To think that voting will change things seems almost comical in light of the efforts most people put into swaying their legislator's opinions.

I could change John Cronyn or Kay Bailey Hutchinson's opinion if I had a private jet and lots of money. Otherwise I will be ignored.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
5. Are you suggesting we can only vote on an issue if...
it directly affects us personally?

I am not a minimum wage earner, but this is an issue
that I would still fight for.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:05 PM
Response to Original message
6. Oh? And how do you generally identify minimum wage earners at your
polling place? You apparently have some kind of system, or personal radar, to be able to say so definitively that they are rarely there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. kind or like "gay-dar"
only "poor-dar" They're the ones that smell like sour milk and are wearing an "I'm with stupid" T-shirt. :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. FYI: The poor are less likely to vote
that's what the data shows. Between having to work more hours because they get paid less, not having a car, and many other reasons the poor vote in smaller numbers than the middle and upper classes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Why, thank you, jseankil. But it's the personal eyewitness account of the
OP that intrigues me. So much more You Are There, you know?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #11
21. yes, and i'm sticking to it. Refer to post #20.
Minimum wage earners are less likely to vote, plain and simple. Besides, If they voted the Republicans wouldn't be office, even with voter fraud and rigged voting machines.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. but...but....but....
There was no one there in McDonalds, Krystals or Burger King uniforms voting. No one in 7-11, Circle K or Mr. Zip uniforms either! You know poor people don't have regular street clothes to change into....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #6
20. well, years ago I used to work lower wage jobs, and 90% of those I worked
with never voted. They would often say 'it aint gonna make a difference anyway, so why vote?'. If the Dems got a vote for all the times out on the shop floor I heard that statement we'd control government.

When I worked the poll sites in the midwest, the average voter I saw came in was white, middle class and up. Republicans don't seem to care and they keep winning, so what gives?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #6
22. lighten up Francis, despite what you want to believe...
Edited on Mon Jul-17-06 10:29 AM by Danieljay
there is a little truth within my OPINION. The poor are less likely to vote, plain and simple. We all know that.

I worked at the polls for a couple of large elections smack dab in the middle of a poverty stricken area. Who showed up to vote? Little old ladies and white middle class folks from the peripheries.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
7. Many voters are former minimum wage earners....
who haven't forgotten what it's like being on the low end of the income pole. And many Democrats are smart enough and principled enough to think it's an important issue even if it doesn't directly effect them. That's what makes us different than Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
9. Yes, but it has to be properly framed
I haven't made minimum wage for many years, and I hope never to do that again. But it is in my interest to have the minimum wage raised. If more money goes to the working poor, that improves the economy a hell of a lot more than if the same amount of money goes to the top 1%. (I am obviously a Keynesian!) And it's not just the people at the bottom tier that get a lift. A raise in the minimum wage forces employers to raise the wages of people making more than that, as well.

Aside from the fact that it's the right thing to do, many people directly benefit from raising the minimum wage. And many more indirectly benefit through increased economic output and reduced social spending.

That said, I'd be willing to consider the argument that vastly increasing the Earned Income Tax Credit, including expanding it to non-parents, could be an alternative way of achieving the same result. But we'd have to be talking about the same net amount of money, and we'd probably have to be talking about raising taxes on corporations to pay for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #9
23. good point..... thanks for a non reactionary well thought out reply! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
12. It's shameful that minimum wage should even be a campaign issue
It should be a common sense issue. You can't keep wages stagnant for over a decade while prices continue to rise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Yes! Right! Amen! and whatever. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
14. How many voters used to earn minimum wage?
I would think many. I know I am one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:50 PM
Response to Original message
15. because people like you and me and everyone here and others elsewhere
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 01:51 PM by jsamuel
also want the minimum wage increased, even if it won't directly benefit them

also, if "poor people don't vote" normally, then maybe they will if the can decide to raise the minimum wage by doing so
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cairycat Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:15 PM
Response to Original message
17. Raising minimum wage is simply the right thing to do
and that's why it should be a campaign issue. Representatives should look out for their constituent's interests, and most representatives have plenty of minimum wage earners (and many people whose wages are tied to the minimum wage) as constituents, whether such workers vote or not.

Not to mention that it could show that Democrats really do have the high moral ground while the Rethugs waste everyone's time on stupid, wedge-issue shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
18. Actually I am working on a voter registration drive that targets
non-voters, like minimum wage earners. It is a long overdue task.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
19. A lot. And many of them are deliberately left standing at the polls
That's why they make sure there aren't enough voting machines in blue collar precincts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC