Ex Bush Administration official kills son, self

[formercia]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/14/AR2006071400502.html


Ex-Bush Aide Fatally Shoots Son, Himself
Gunfire at McLean Home Followed Fight With Wife

By Tom Jackman and Stephanie McCrummen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, July 15, 2006; Page B01

A former Bush administration official, after arguing violently with his wife Thursday night, shot and killed his 12-year-old son inside their McLean home, then turned a shotgun on himself and committed suicide, Fairfax County police said.

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Among his duties at the Commerce Department, Lash headed a task force on the reconstruction of Iraq, in which he dealt with businesses seeking contracts.



This guy Knew who the players were and where the bodies were buried.

[autorank]

1. That is utterly tragic...

And why do these guys have to kill their kids. It's beyond comprehension.

[formercia]

2. Chemical imbalance

from internal stress or externally induced. There are chemical agents that can do this.

[Minnesota Libra]

7. It could be a "chemical imbalance" but I'd be willing to bet............

.....good money on the fact that after "....arguing violently with his wife Thursday night....." the guy wanted to hurt his wife in a way "that she'll never forget" as I've heard and read others claim who have done the same thing.

It's always the ".....12-year-old son..." kids who suffer the most.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. When you think about it.... professing our "freedom" to the

world, with all of the 2 million plus in prison, the domestic abuse, the alcoholism, the gambling/casinos, the prescription drug overuse/abuse, the virtual police state, the violence waged on peaceful protests, the pedophiles, and our never ending willingness to send bombs raining down on other peoples' heads.... ya know, I'm not so sure other nations need our "freedom" or way of life as much as we think they do.

[Minnesota Libra]

13. As Putin said in a speech just before the beginning of the G8.............

....."We don't want the Iraq style democracy." I about lost it on that one,:rofl: talk about telling the leadership of this country that they are totally and completely effed up.:rofl:

[autorank]

26. That is to funny... but I know who is writing his material...

[Minnesota Libra]

27. OMG, good one!!!!!! Congrats for getting it!!..............

:rofl: :applause: :rofl: :applause:

[autorank]

36. Just goes to show...Colbert is Lord!!! Even Putin knows that;) n/t

[mitchum]

28. Yes, he was a male Medea, and that was his motivation

[beam me up scottie]

9. Chemical agents that make you kill your 12 year old son and then yourself?

Give me a fucking break.

How about you just call your chief on your shoe phone, get your next assignment and stop exploiting a terrible tragedy?

[formercia]

16. Hate to bust your little bubble

but I have had first-hand experience with the agent. It makes you go into an almost uncontrollable rage combined with an overwhelming sense of fear. It is similar to agent BZ but much quicker acting and a lot more powerful.

[salvorhardin]

35. You have first hand experience?

You shot your son and then killed yourself?

Oh please, your BS is so thick you could use it to backfill the Grand Canyon. And that you should turn this tragedy and a mother's grief into your own little masturbatory conspiracist fantasy is sick.

[formercia]

38. My son has autism

I can empathize with the boy and his mom.

[Minnesota Libra]

5. He no doubt killed his son to..............

.....hut the wife. If he and his wife "argued violently" then loosing her husband wouldn't have affected her much but loosing her son would. I've seen cases where the soon to be ex husband threatens to "do something she will never forget" and then kills the kids before turning the gun on himself.

It's very tragic I think and I have no answers as to how to stop it.

[Hugin]

3. Oh, look! This is on the scroller over at CNN...

NOT!

Made you look.

[Hugin]

4. Dupe.

%#$@%#$@%$ Dialup.

[Rosemary2205]

6. Yeah but 8-10 bucks a month.

better than no access at all. :)

[formercia]

8. I know

the point I was trying to make is important enough for another thread.

[Hugin]

10. I'm sorry formercia...

I wasn't claiming your thread was a "Dupe". I had "Duped" on my reply.

Yes! This topic always requires another thread!

[formercia]

17. No problem. I didn't take any offense.

but as you can see, the damage control crew is on the job.

[formercia]

18. What an Administration does when the jig is up

http://www.cancersurvivors.org/Coping/end%20term/stages.htm

What Are The Stages of Grief?

Many people have tried to explain what grief is; some have even identified certain stages of grief.

Probably the most well-known of these might be from Elizabeth Kubler-Ross' book, "On Death and Dying." In it, she identified five stages that a dying patient experiences when informed of their terminal prognosis.

The stages Kubler-Ross identified are:

* Denial (this isn't happening to me!)
* Anger (why is this happening to me?)
* Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
* Depression (I don't care anymore)
* Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)


I think they are somewhere between stages 2 and 3.:evilgrin:

instead: If I can eliminate anyone who knows about my connection, i'll never get caught.

[Hugin]

19. Definitely a dangerous stage...

Where they imagine they can fight their way out of the inevitable.

Truly scary.

[formercia]

21. I just hope they don't destroy the Planet in the process.

Too many innocent people have died already.

[Hugin]

24. The only solution is a negotiated comprimise...

Something that isn't in their cultish mind-set.

They'd have to yield in their ideologically driven crusade and that's apparently not an option.

But, half of it is up to us... People like this are dangerous when cornered. There must
be an avenue of reform for them without their losing face.

[formercia]

32. Give them fair due process

Which is more than they have given others.

[KoKo]

12. He was an "insider" all the way back to Reagan Administration.

Something was "coming down" that had him upset enough to freak out like this. His bio says alot about what he was involved in....:-(

[madokie]

14. its sad, I wonder what his job had to do with him snapping

and if it is possible to see this in a person before they do get so depressed or whatever it is, as to do something like this.

[malaise]

15. Actually if the entire regime

would commit suicide and leave the children, the planet would be a better place.

[no_hypocrisy]

20. I keep shaking my head when I learn about yet another otherwise

"loving" father who kills his children and then himself in order to deprive the mother/his wife (or ex-) of those children and to avoid taking responsibility for such abject malice, cruelty and selfishness.

This week alone, up here in north Jersey, a father killed his two sons and himself. Not quite applicable except for the malice element, a doctor literally blew up his own building with himself in it in New York City (he died today) rather than allow his ex-wife to receive the profits from its sale as ordered by the court.

To these men, children and buildings are extreme possessions that they won't share or relinquish. Giving up 100% control and ownership is equivalent to the death of their being.

I get it, but I don't get it.

[ClintonTyree]

22. Just men?

Andrea Yates comes to mind along with dozens of other examples of mothers doing the same exact thing. Of course they can always fall back on the PPD defense, a father is 'just plain crazy'.

[no_hypocrisy]

23. You have a point. Women are equally prone to such motivations. n/t

[Hugin]

25. Not to provoke an argument...

But, I don't think Yates's motivation was control and possession as you stated earlier.

Women seem to do this for more... It's horrible to say, "nurturing" reasons. To protect
their children from what they see as a terrible reality.

The exception to this is when the children are "in-the-way" of some relationship the
woman is trying to establish.

Unfortunately, this is a stereotype.

Is it written anywhere if the son was his biological son?

[mitchum]

29. You are right. In fact, Medea is the classical model for this type...

of thing. It's not solely male.

[lonestarnot]

30. When they can't control, they demolish.

[DistressedAmerican]

31. Dupe and Rediculous.

As I said on the first thread, this is a tragedy. Your spinning in like this is disgusting.

[formercia]

33. Please, you flatter me.

and thanks for the kick.

[DistressedAmerican]

34. Always Happy To Point Out Someone Acting Repulsive.

And kicking your BS does that quite nicely. This is one the the sickest threads I have ever seen here at DU. You should be real proud of yourself. Nice moral compass.

Kick for more people to see how very wrong this whole thread and sick dancing on these graves really is.

[formercia]

37. My 5 year old son is mildly autistic

I thank God every day that he would never be accepted in the Military.