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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:52 PM
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John Paul II’s death cost Vatican $9mn
DAMN! Just put me in a furnace, burn my body to ash, and be done with it. $9,000,000???

VATICAN CITY: The funeral of Pope John Paul II last year and the election of his successor Pope Benedict XVI cost the Vatican 7mn euros ($9mn), figures released by the Holy See showed yesterday.

The figures for 2005 still show a profit of 9.7mn euros, the Vatican’s best budgetary performance for eight years, said Sergio Sebastiani, president of the Prefecture for Economic Affairs.

The costs of burying John Paul II in April last year, the subsequent conclave to elect his successor and the mass to install the new pope are listed in the figures under “other income and expenses”.

“This shows a negative result of 7mn euros and reflects costs for the Vacant See,” Sebastiani told a news conference.

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http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=97124&version=1&template_id=39&parent_id=21
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:54 PM
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1. Not bad for an organization run by a bunch of guys who take
a vow of poverty.

(I'm Catholic, I can say that)
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:58 PM
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4. Recovered Catholic here.
And you are right. Vatican City is one of the wealthiest nations.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:00 PM
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7. i like the term "recovered catholic". i was born and raised
catholic but gave up the religion in my 20s. so now i know what to call myself. lol
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:05 PM
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12. LOL!
I've used it for years. I always felt people like us could use some sort of 12-step program to deprogram.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:07 PM
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14. i had a friend many years ago who said i was the only catholic
she knew that had escaped it totally. you're right. they should have a 12 step program.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:32 PM
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18. Always recovering, never recovered.
Come on, im10ashus, you know recovery is a lifelong process, one day at a time. ;)

Sign Me,

You Can Take the Person Out of the Church, But...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:54 PM
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2. I'm guessing St. Ronnie's cost more. (Edit: Yep. $400 milliion!)
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 02:12 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: $9 million is chump change in comparison.

http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com/blog/2004/06/the_most_expans.html

Another estimate is $10 million - for the funeral only, not the transportation of the body, ete.c
http://www.abcnewspapers.com/2004/July/8ElyseKaner.html

(Nixon's funeral in 1994 cost taxpayers only $300,000 per Newsweek.)
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:58 PM
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5. you mean ronnie reagan? it always pissed me off when nixon
died. the man left office in disgrace and yet his funeral was that of a great president.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:57 PM
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3. while people are starving. how can they justify this?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:02 PM
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10. Exactly!
One of the MANY reasons I could never go back.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:03 PM
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11. It's been my thought for some time that...
the Catholic church alone could wipe out hunger in the world if they really wanted to. I'd be willing to bet $9 million is a drop in the bucket for the Vatican.

Note: nothing personal against the faith or those who practice it.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:05 PM
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13. i agree. i refuse to give money to any religious charity. the only
one that i give to that's close to religious is for the "people of tibet".
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:10 PM
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16. $9 million IS a drop in the bucket.
Their library holds some of the rarest artifacts and writings in the world. They have artwork that is priceless. A lot of this stuff was confiscated during their many bloody religious wars.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:47 PM
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22. yep.. very rich country/religion
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:41 PM
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21. Here's an anecdote that always ticked me off.
During my eight years at parochial school (run by the Sisters of Perpetual Child Abuse), one of my classmates (age 7) fell off the monkey bars and broke her arm. Months later, her mom told my mom that the church had kicked in its share of the medical bill: $2.00. (Yes, that's two dollars.)

I guess it was some token payment, so the church/school couldn't be sued later. And I would also guess that there was some very fine print on the enrollment form that let them get away with this sort of thing.

As my father used to say, rich people stay rich because they're so cheap. Ditto the RCC.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:59 PM
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6. What The Hell. They Did Not Work For It!
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 01:59 PM by DistressedAmerican
It is always easy to part with free money just handed to you.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:01 PM
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9. when the scandals about the child abuse came out and the
church was paying out lawsuits, i remember joy bahar (the view) saying that she gave money to her church to help build a new school and now it was paying lawsuits. she was very pissed.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:01 PM
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8. and how much did it make for Rome?
a lot more than 9 million Euros, I bet. All that media, all the pilgrims, the heads of state, that's a lot of bank.
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jbonkowski Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:07 PM
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15. I would guess
That flying in all of the bishops and their staffs to Rome, probably first class, was a big part of the expense.

Those guys don't know anything about vows of poverty.

jim
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:20 PM
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17. The cost of Pope John Paul's funeral was chump change compared....
to all the settlements of their pedophile lawsuits. :shrug:
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:34 PM
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19. Proof that I'm a bad, bad ex-Catholic.
Sapph sees subject line: "John Paul II’s death cost Vatican $9mn"

Sapph thinks: "Talk about inflation -- I bet it was a lot cheaper to bump off John Paul I."

Bad, Sapph, bad!
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:41 PM
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20. LOL!
Bad Sapph, indeed!

:-)

This recovered Catholic is right there with you.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:09 PM
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25. Funny Sapph!!!
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 03:11 PM by Idealist Hippie
Edit: can't spell a five-letter name correctly on first try.....
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ihaam Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:50 PM
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23. The next pope should donate $10 Mn to the poor
and have a simple unannounced burial... He can get his reward, praise and fanfare in heaven...
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:54 PM
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24. If only they weren't all greedy whores.
Welcome to DU!

:hi:
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ihaam Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:11 PM
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27. thanks
:) ...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:13 PM
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26. Did they have that amount of money?
What do they need all that money for?
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