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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:07 PM
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CNN: "Has world war 3 begun?"
I have just seen the most idiotic discussion. On the situation room, Wolf Blitzer and Jack Cafferty discussed whether or not the war on terrorism was the start of world war three. Of course, the discussion takes the form of that familiar narrative (some say the sun rises in the east, others say it rises in the west.) Blitzer chimed in and said that some people think the cold war was ww3 and that this is the start of ww4. Of course, it remained an open ended question, and REALITY was never considered.

This is by far the most pathetic thing I have seen come out of the mainstream media in a while. The "war on terror" can hardly be considered a war. There is a war in Iraq, But the war on terror is abstract, like the war on drugs.

What is this strange obsession that Americans have with war?? Why do many feel the need to declare world war three??

As for me, I am going to get behind peace.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:10 PM
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1. But if Japan attacks North Korea
That can turn into something global.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:28 PM
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25. I sincerely doubt that will happen
It's much more likely that Israel will bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, and then the shit will really hit the fan.

Nobody much gives a hoot about NK, but trouble in the Middle East means trouble with the world's oil supply.

The only other possibility is something coming completely out of the blue, like a war between China and India or India and Pakistan. The latter would draw in the Chinese as fallout doesn't respect national borders.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:33 PM
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27. Does Little Kim
have an ally willing to sacrifice millions of people to keep him in elevator shoes and vidoes?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:21 PM
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33. China.
Not that China cares for North Korea, but 1.2 billion Chinese aren't going to sit around and let the U.S. fight a war in its back yard.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:11 PM
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2. I watched it too.
Just saying "World War Three"....well hell, that's gotta be worth something in the cable ratings wars, right? (No pun intended)

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:11 PM
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3. This is the fascists' dream newscast subject - keeps them in power
and making MONEY off of perpetual war.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:15 PM
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9. Exactly. Cancel all 'elections'.
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 04:17 PM by Ghost Dog
Loyal appointees only from now on.

Concentrate power. The rest must serve.

You know it makes sense.

ed: typo.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:11 PM
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4. But you still watched and their job is done
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:13 PM
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5. So what do we do, boycot CNN???
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:19 PM
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16. Better idea yet, turn off the TV
Face it, all you're going to get from television "news" is propaganda and pablum. Why subject yourself to that kind of garbage when you have the entire world of the internet, along with print and radio to get your news from:shrug:
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:20 PM
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18. Yeah but for every one of us who turns off the TV, there are 10 that are
still watching.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:25 PM
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23. So? At least you won't be polluting your mind with that garbage
I've rarely watched CNN, and feel no lack. In fact about the only reasons I still have a television are for sports, movies, local news and weather and the occaisional viewing of the "learning channels"(though those are becoming ever more disappointing as time goes on.

Just because a great many people do something doesn't make that particular action the correct one.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:37 PM
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28. I'm one who did that 20 years ago. I still don't miss it:
You crazy? I use good-quality DVDs, though.

Used to be good (Spanish + The Guardian) press and shortwave radio. Now it's mostly acceptable press (Spanish + The Guardian) and the Internet. Proud to have been in close to the beginning of the WWW.

Also, here in Europe, here just south of the Pyrenees in Catalonia, Spain, there's also much life, much communication in the street.

Tho not as much as in, for example, Mexico, I guess...
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:41 PM
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30. In the U.S.,
at least where I live, there is almost no real sense of community, no communication in the streets. We all live in our castles surrounded by a moat of grass, pile into our SUV's where we still remain isolated, and that is about it.

For most people, TV is the only way they know how other people are thinking. Except maybe for at work, but people don't really like to talk about politics because it leads to arguments.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:18 PM
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31. Terrible isolation, Raydawg1234 my friend.
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 05:18 PM by Ghost Dog
Tell me: Why is that?

What happened to the myth (onetime reality, I guess, at least for many) of the US Hometown?
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:19 PM
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32. It is dead.
You can't tell me that that is not reality for most people, because it is.

We leave our houses to shop etc, when does that ever lead to political discussion?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:28 PM
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36. I like knowing what the muppetmind's thinking at times. (n/t)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:13 PM
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6. Did they discuss Mr.bush starting WW3?
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:14 PM
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7. of course not
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:15 PM
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8. Money and Power
The Big Shots don't get to "make history" and make money if there's peace. The news/entertainment industry, the war machine, Homeland Insecurity and the war profiteers all get their slices of the BigWarPie while the ordinary folk get to do the dying.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:16 PM
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10. Reminds me of the PNAC
I think to them we're up to 4 or 5.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:16 PM
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11. Apocalypse=ratings, long-termed effects be damned!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:17 PM
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12. I have a wild, crazy, INSANE idea:
Maybe CNN could hire some investigative journalists who can, you know, investigate this and then (and this is when my idea goes wild) REPORT on it. Too insane? Too far fetched? Yeah, I thought so too. They should just have a broadcaster and an editorialist just sit around and ponder the concept of world war instead. That'll accomplish a lot.


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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:20 PM
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17. Check out also whatever happened to Tom..., Ted...,
Whatsisname? You know, Jane Fonda from Barbarella's husband that was.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:38 PM
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29. Wow that is a crazy idea
with ideas like that you should be institutionalized and have your brain removed for examination. Either that or consider joining FreeRepublic.:sarcasm: :yourock:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:18 PM
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13. Maybe it's WW 5
right after the "war on poverty" and the "war on drugs". :eyes: Maybe we need a "war on war"?

I really can't stomach the MSM anymore. It gets more inane by the minute.

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:22 PM
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20. I seem to remember they tried a 'war on ecologists' for a while
But it didn't really plan out...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:18 PM
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14. "some people say..." is NOT journalistic attribution
and these so-called 'journalists' shouldn't be allowed to do what a first-year j-school student would be called on. :grr:

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:27 PM
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24. Ohhhh, but what about the "MY SOURCES TELL ME" line!
There's an authoritative beauty!!!

And let's not forget our pal "the unnamed senior administration official" or the Scooter Libbyesque "former Congressional staffer!!!!"
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:19 PM
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15. Better start hoarding they sticks and stones folks...!
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 04:19 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:21 PM
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Nope, but apparently we are going to have a race war
right here in the good ole USA according to Randi Rhodes when all those Aryan nation types in the army get back from Iraq.

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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:21 PM
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19. Cable News, what is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing!!!
:headbang:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:22 PM
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21. As for me, I am going to get behind peace.
one of the things we democrats need after we regain control, if diebold allows us to, is a dept of peace,
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:24 PM
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22. CNN?
CORPORATE NEWS NETWORK?

Do you get any other stations on your tv set? If so, why do you waste your time watching garbage like wolfie on CRAPPY NEWS NETWORK?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:33 PM
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26. Not as long as they keep using crappy WWII analogies to justify everything
You know, every single fucking ill-advised military blowjob we engage in is D-Day all over again, and every tinpot tyrant we go after is Hitler.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:25 PM
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34. And don't ever forget Gallipoli. eom.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:26 PM
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35. It's true that Bush may provoke WWIII - Bush is obsessed with killing
I tend to think of Bush as Satans little helper - even though their discussion was utterly idiotic, it wouldn't surprise me if our dupe of president was responsible for starting a world-wide conflict. He can then say that Satan made him do it.
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