TrickyDick: "Warren Comm. Rept "the greatest hoax ever"

[UTUSN]

If this belongs in a conspiracy niche somewhere, Zeus-speed to it.

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http://www.nypost.com/gossip/cindy/cindy.htm

.... ...Former United Press Int'l's Don Fulsom, longtime White House reporter with access to archives, titles his "Tricky Dick, The Mob, and the Assassination of JFK: The Case Against Richard Nixon." Supposedly it spotlights RMN's "intimate longstanding ties with the mob and JFK's assassination."


The book spotlights what Nixon knew about archrival John F. Kennedy and when he knew it. And what secrets he kept about That Day in Texas. It contends:


* Kennedy was a mob hit designed to stop his war on organized crime.


* Due to Mafia connections, Nixon knew a rubout was in the works.


* The CIA concealed the crime to keep secret the fact that it - and Nixon as Eisenhower's VP - had worked with the Mafia in attempts to eliminate Castro.


* Nixon used his inside information to try to blackmail the Agency into derailing an FBI probe of White House involvement in the Watergate break-in.


* The then-president was personally linked to Dallas mobster Jack Ruby, who shot alleged Kennedy killer Lee Harvey Oswald.


* Richard Milhous once accidentally spoke of the Kennedy assassination "conspirators" in the plural then hastily switched to the singular.


* Nixon White House tapes plus CIA documents include numerous "national security" deletions.


Via recently declassified documents and tapes, plus fresh interviews, the author says that on an Oval Office tape, Nixon called 1963's Warren Commission Report "the greatest hoax ever perpetuated" yet repeatedly denied requests for a new investigation. The author includes an FBI memo describing a $500,000 payoff to the Nixon White House "to guarantee the release of Jimmy Hoffa from the federal penitentiary." Fulsom links Nixon to Hoffa and Hoffa to JFK's rubout.


OK?


The History Channel has expressed interest in optioning the story.

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[Warpy]

1. I still think the Kennedy hit was over the Bay of Pigs fiasco

It's the one thing the mob and the CIA agreed on. Both lost bigtime.

Ruby is the key. He was obviously sent to shut Oswald up. He knew he had cancer, he knew his jail time would be limited.

[Peace Patriot]

2. Nice, convenient, out of the way perps.

Looking back over the last 40 years, through all that has happened, I'm now inclined toward corporate war profiteers in cahoots with warmongers in the shadow government. I'm not saying the Mob couldn't have been in on it. Just that I see the role of war profiteers more clearly now. And you can make a case for JFK as a peace-monger. First act in office was to say "No" to the CIA over the Cuban invasion. They tried to foist it on him. He refused. Next, stopping a nuke holocaust with Soviet Russia (the Cuban missile crisis). And one his last acts, signing executive orders withdrawing our military "advisers" from Vietnam. He also was making a case for alternative use of military spending--on a visionary program of space exploration. His speeches seem genuine enough--and indeed eloquent--on the matter of peace. And look what happened after his death? Upwards of 2 million people slaughtered in Southeast Asia over the next 7-8 years for no reason. I'll never believe that Kennedy would have done that--or would have let it get to that point (if he had been sucked into it). His bro RFK saw the light, after supporting it for a couple of years. He was running a very successful campaign for prez, against the war, when he was then assassinated (five years later). ML King had also spoken out against the war (against the advice of the liberal establishment). All three dead by bullets--three of our greatest leaders--and the war went on and on and on.

[UTUSN]

3. In my usual contrarian way,

To quibble a bit with your hagiography, wasn't it generally accepted that JFK's poor impression as a lightweight is what emboldened KRUSCHEV into arming Cuba? So to say JFK stopped a holocaust is to ignore that he partially CAUSED it, sort of how Shrubbites think a "victory" in Iraq will justify what was unjustifiable in the first place. And, whatever vendetta or cover-up for their fuck-ups the CIA had, he certainly gave them material to use against him, his reckless personal behavior paying-in to "security risk" cover stories. ZINN shows how big American involvement in Vietnam was growing, including under JFK. And I submit that RFK's change of heart had something to do with the personal violence (JFK's murder) hitting close to home and the antipathy to LBJ as the replacement of JFK and personification of Vietnam--oh, besides a component of sincerity.

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from A People's History of the U.S., by Howard ZINN, paper

p.470: For a few weeks in September, 1945, Vietnam was--for the first and only time in its modern history--free of foreign domination, and united from north to south under Ho Chi Minh.

p.471: After the Communist victory in China in 1949 and the Korean war the following year, the United States began giving large amounts of military aid to the French. By 1954 …. The U.S. was financing 80 percent of the French war effort.

p. 472: As the Pentagon Papers put it: “South Viet Nam was essentially the creation of the United States.”

p. 473: When Kennedy took office in early 1961 he continued the policies of Truman and Eisenhower in Southeast Asia. Almost immediately, he approved a secret plan for various military actions in Vietnam and Laos…

p. 474: Under the Geneva Accords, the United States was permitted to have 685 military advisers in southern Vietnam. Eisenhower secretly sent several thousand. Under Kennedy, the figure rose to sixteen thousand, and some of them began to take part in combat operations.

p. 475: The Pentagon historians wrote that when Eisenhower met with President-elect Kennedy in January 1961, he “wondered aloud why, in interventions of this kind, we always seemed to find that the morale of the Communist forces was better than that of the democratic forces.”

p. 476: The Tonkin Resolution gave the President the power to initiate hostilities without the declaration of war by Congress that the Constitution required. The Supreme Court, supposed to be the watchdog of the Constitution, was asked by a number of petitioners in the course of the Vietnam war to declare the war unconstitutional. Again and again, it refused even to consider the issue.

p. 478: The CIA in Vietnam, in a program called “Operation Phoenix,” secretly, without trial, executed at least twenty thousand civilians in South Vietnam who were suspected of being members of the Communist underground. ….

After the war, the release of records of the International Red Cross showed that in South Vietnamese prison camps, where at the height of the war 65,000 to 70,000 people were held and often beaten and tortured, American advisers observed and sometimes participated. ….

By the end of the Vietnam war, 7 million tons of bombs had been dropped on Vietnam, more than twice the total bombs dropped on Europe and Asia in World War II--almost one 500-pound bomb for every human being in Vietnam.

p. 479: Thousands of Americans came to his defense. Part of it was in patriotic justification of his action as necessary against the “Communists.” Part of it seems to have been a feeling that he was unjustly singled out in a war with many similar atrocities. Colonel Oran Henderson, who had been charged with covering up the My Lai killings, told reporters in early 1971: “Every unit of brigade size has its My Lai hidden someplace.” Indeed, My Lai was unique only in its details.

p. 483: By early 1968, the cruelty of the war began touching the conscience of many Americans.

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[Monkey see Monkey Do]

4. It's quoted out of context

He made the comment after the shooting of George Wallace & he was discussing the early 'Plumbers' job of painting Bremner (the would be assassin) as a left-winger. In the full quote, Nixon's talking about how he perceives the left to have been succesful in pinning the Kennedy assassination on the right, when it was actually done by a Communist sympathiser & that this was "the greatest hoax ever perpetuated".

edit -- found a transcript via CNN

RICHARD NIXON, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Why don't we play the game a bit smarter for a change. They pinned the assassination of Kennedy on the right wing, the Birchers. It was done by a Communist and it was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated. And I respectfully suggest, can't we pin this on one of theirs?

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CHUCK COLSON, FMR. PRESIDENTIAL AIDE FOR RICHARD NIXON: Ah, he is obviously demented.

NIXON: Is he a left-winger or a right-winger?

COLSON: Well, he's going to be a left-winger by the time we get through, I think.

NIXON: Ah, good. Keep at that. Keep at that.

[UTUSN]

5. Depends on what the meaning of "it" is

"It was done by a Communist" ------"it" is clearly the assassination.

"and it was the greatest hoax..." -----"it" is the pinning on the Right wing? Or still the assassination? But I think you're correct.

[Bolo Boffin]

7. The hoax according to Nixon

was the "Left pinning the assassination on the Birchers". That's how I read that conversation.

And dear sweet prison ministries Chuckie Colson...what a blast from the past.

[Holly_Hobby]

6. Nixon also linked to......(drum roll)

Prescott Bush!



And Prescott Bush linked to Ike!

[ToeBot]

8. I'm still wondering why they sealed the Warren Commission records...

If there is nothing there why bother? All it does is feed the notion of a conspiracy.