Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.

[Octafish]

Mexicans aren’t America’s immigration problem. NAZIs are.

And that taboo forms the evil heart of our nation’s secret government—the fact Nazis helped form the modern national security state. This fundamental secret has been kept from America’s people for nearly 60 years. Isn't it about time you (not you, DU) learned the Truth?

America has been influenced by Nazis, Nazi sympathizers and worse since the CIA allowed enabled them to escape justice after World War II.

CIA-Nazi Link Grows Clearer as More Documents Come to Light

Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann stands trial in Jerusalem in 1961. Apparently, the CIA knew of his whereabouts as early as 1958.

Ron Kampeas
Jewish Telegraphic Agency
WASHINGTON

A former Nazi rose to the highest ranks of a Western intelligence agency - and was a Soviet mole. A lead to Adolf Eichmann was ignored. A spy whose pathological lies made him useless, but who still escaped prosecution for war crimes.

These are among the revelations found among some 8 million pages of documents released here Tuesday that deal with German and Japanese war crimes, including 27,000 pages that detail the relationship after World War II between U.S. government agencies and suspected Nazis war criminals.

The message threading the documents was clear: The price one pays for consorting with evil men far outweighs the return.

"Using very bad people can have very bad consequences," Elizabeth Holtzman, a former U.S. congresswoman and a member of the Interagency Working Group that released the documents, said at a news conference last Tuesday at the National Archives. The group was established in 1999 to declassify rooms full of documents related to Nazi war crimes.

The mandate was later extended to Japanese war crimes.

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http://www.jewishexponent.com/ViewArticle.asp?ArtID=3617

This guy helped murder MILLIONS and people in the CIA helped him escape justice:



Read more from the records just released from the CIA’s files to the National Archives.

This big declassification of America’s darkest secret—CIA files kept hidden for 60 years—chronicle the CIA’s dependence on the NAZI war criminals, enlisted to fight Godless Communism. Gee. We became Satan’s bedfellows to fight the commies.

Please consider: The Nazis knew what awaited them at the hands of the Soviets. So, they cooked up plans to surrender to the United States. If they promised to help in the fight against the Soviets, they knew they would be welcomed by the West, find shelter and sooner rather than later, and in direct contradiction to the orders of President Harry S Truman, the Nazis would be welcomed in the West, or at least in High Society, as “ex-Nazis.”

The CIA's History Problem is Our History Problem

By David Wallace
Fri Jun 16, 9:22 PM ET

The author David Lowenthal once noted that the "past is a foreign country." The past might be better described as being more like a moving target - always in transition and susceptible (and vulnerable) to becoming unrecognizable to what we once believed. And more often than not new revelations are disorientating and troubling.

EXCERPT…

Such is the case with recent news accounts in the Washington Post and the New York Times that in the late 1950s the CIA knew that Adolf Eichmann was living in Argentina and had a pretty close pseudonym for him (Clemens instead of the actual alias of Klement), but did nothing to bring him to justice. That the CIA sought the cooperation and protection of Nazis, even those guilty of war crimes, after World War Two to serve its Cold War struggles is not news. But the extent of these relationships and the depths the CIA went through to protect them is news. These disclosures have been made possible through the ongoing efforts of the Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Records Interagency Working Group (IWG), launched over eight years ago by the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act (Public Law 105-246). The key that unlocked this unsavory history has been the unparalleled access granted to the IWG into formerly secret government records and archives.

Concern over these disclosures extend beyond the sad facts surfaced by the IWG: such as official protection of Nazis residing in the United States and the CIA's post-war use of top Eichmann aides. They also include the entirely unconscionable fact that it has taken generations for the CIA to disclose this information, and only did so after a special act of Congress supplemented by years long battles to protect them from public knowledge. IWG member Thomas H. Baer pointed to such battles when he thanked the CIA for finally coming clean this past week. However, coming clean occurred only after "reversal of policy of thinly veiled noncompliance" with the IWG's legal mandate and the ongoing efforts of members of Congress and (some) IWG members and staff in making an "ironclad case decrying CIAs misinterpretation of its obligations."

Why has the CIA taken so long to open such records and archives? And do the excuses proffered around protecting national security really hold any credible value? I think the answer to the second question must be no, of course not. As to the first question, that is a trickier one, but one must look beyond the legal loopholes that protect secret information for such inordinate periods and look to see what agendas are at play. Clearly one agenda is to provide a simplistic and comforting (and at times woefully inaccurate) past as a means of enabling an ignorant, but strongly held, patriotism as a form of social glue that (kind of) holds society together. But a simplistic and comforting and inaccurate past can only be realized through the unreasonable, though legal, controls granted to the CIA over its historical records and archives. And it is in these seemingly rationally derived controls that the past itself can be held hostage.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060617/cm_huffpost/023206

A good overview of the historical record from the Federation of American Scientists shows the CIA protected Adolf Eichmann by not revealing where he was to Allied investigators searching for war criminals and mass murderers. For those unfamiliar with Eichmann, he was one of the architects of the Holocaust, playing a major role in the deaths of millions of people.

Allowing Eichmann to escape justice and head to a safe haven in Bolivia was in direct contradiction to President Harry S Truman’s orders that no amnesty would be given to NAZI war criminals. Later on, our spies wouild not just be pals with NAZIs, our spies work for them. For proof, look around.



What’s worse. A bunch of the NAZIs were Commie spies. We were shafted, to put it mildly, by the same Satan.

Former longtime CIA director of counterintelligence James Jesus Angleton told author Joseph Trento his greatest regret in his job was not giving lie-detector tests to "Allen Dulles and 60 of his closest friends." He said he thought more than a few were traitors and expected to see them all in hell one day.

Within the confines of (Angleton’s) remarkable life were most of America’s secrets. “You know how I got to be in charge of counterintelligence? I agreed not to polygraph or require detailed background checks on Allen Dulles and 60 of his closest friends... They were afraid that their own business dealings with Hitler’s pals would come out. They were too arrogant to believe that the Russians would discover it all. . . . You know, the CIA got tens of thousands of brave people killed. . . We played with lives as if we owned them. We gave false hope. We - I - so misjudged what happened."

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http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SSangleton.htm

Writers like Mae Brussell, Christopher Simpson, Martin Lee, Linda Hunt, Carla Binion and Robert Parry and all people who are familiar with Operation PAPERCLIP have known this for decades, but most Americans are just beginning to learn about the close relationship between post-World War II United States Government and the Third Reich.

Principal among these agencies was the newborn CIA. Here’s what the agency and your government did to help war criminals, murderers of Americans and the architects of the Holocaust escape Justice, according to this month’s release of official CIA documents that had been kept classified for 60 years:

Allen Dulles, the NAZIs, and the CIA

Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg once stated that "The Dulles brothers were traitors." Some historians believe that Allen Dulles became head of the newly formed CIA in large part to cover up his treasonous behavior and that of his clients.

-- Christian Dewar, Making a Killing

Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

-- Michael Hasty, Paranoid Shift

EXCERPT…

Allen Welsh Dulles was born to privilege and a tradition of public service. He was the grandson of one secretary of state and the nephew of another. But by the time he graduated from Princeton in 1914, the robber baron era of American history was coming to an an end, ushered out by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act -- which had been used in 1911 to break up Standard Oil -- and by the institution of the progressive income tax in 1913. The ruling elite was starting to view government less as their own private preserve and more as an unwanted intrusion on their ability to conduct business as usual. That shift of loyalties in itself may account for many of the paradoxical aspects of Dulles's career.

Dulles entered the diplomatic service after college and served as a State Department delegate to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, which brought a formal end to World War I. The Versailles Treaty which came out of this conference included a provision making it illegal to sell arms to Germany. This displeased the powerful DuPont family, and they put pressure on the delegates to allow them to opt out. It was Allen Dulles who finally gave them the assurances they wanted that their transactions with Germany would be "winked at."

Dulles remained a diplomat through the early 1920's, spending part of that time in Berlin. However, he left government service in 1926 for the greener pastures of private business, becoming a Wall Street lawyer with the same firm as his older brother, John Foster Dulles.

By the middle 20's, Germany had started recovering from the effects of the war and its postwar economic collapse, and the great German industrial firms were looking like attractive investment opportunities for wealthy Americans. W.A. Harriman & Co., formed in 1919 by Averell Harriman (son of railroad baron E.H. Hariman) and George Herbert Walker, had led the way in directing American money to German companies and had opened a Berlin branch as early as 1922, when Germany was still in chaos. At that time, Averell Harriman traveled to Europe and made contact with the powerful Thyssen family of steel magnates. It was to be a long-lasting and fateful partnership.

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http://www.enter.net/~torve/trogholm/secret/rightroots/dulles.html

These are the ties that bind. They go from Allen Dulle’s business ties to Prescott Bush and on through later to his CIA ties to George Herbert Walker Bush and from there to the Smirkelgrüber.



By extension, these records also show the fundamental secret of our nation’s government is the close alliance formed between the Nazis of World War 2 days and their partners in the CIA and other U.S. and Western intelligence agencies today still form the core of the nation’s clandestine national security apparatus.

So. The Nazis couldn’t beat the United States and the Allies in World War II. They surrendered to the USA and promised to work for us. Instead, they influenced, if not took over, key offices of the national security state.

Today, we see the fruits of their labor: The United States makes war on an innocent country for power and profit. The Constitution of the United States is trampled and redacted. And for most of the people of the United States, they haven’t got a clue.

Please tell me, who really won World War ?

The fact is: No one has done more to destroy America—the country, the Constitution, the We the People—than George W. Bush. Certainly not the Commies, in the form of the bloated and evil Soviet and Red Chinese threats and not even the Nazis of World War II with all their evil, have come anywhere near close to conquering the red, white and blue.

And George W Bush is the personification of the convergence of Post World War II Pro War Forces, from Wall Street to Reichstagfeuer to Cold War to BCCI to 911. And while Bush may be the incarnation of all things treasonous, he is just the visible face of the monster.

WAR PRESNIT

[Octafish]

1. CIA's Stanley Moskowitz passed away Thursday...

...the CIA official who promised to help get the Truth to Americans passed away Thursday.

Mr. Moskowitz was a member of the IWG that got the documents released in June.

Like the majority of American public servants, he was a good guy.

Stanley M. Moskowitz, 68; Twice CIA Liaison to Congress

By Patricia Sullivan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 1, 2006; Page B06

Stanley Martin Moskowitz, 68, a Central Intelligence Agency official who twice served as the agency's liaison to Congress and who tried to forge peace between Israelis and Palestinians, died June 29 of a heart attack after playing tennis in McLean. He died after driving himself to the McLean Immediate Care clinic.

Mr. Moskowitz spent more than 40 years in the CIA, working in Vietnam, Russia, Eastern Europe, Tel Aviv, New York and Capitol Hill. He received six of the agency's top awards during his career. Yesterday, the current CIA director, Michael V. Hayden, and former CIA director George Tenet issued statements praising him as "truly exceptional" and "indispensable."

Because of his position as director of congressional affairs, Mr. Moskowitz was one of the few CIA officials whose names regularly appeared in print. But he was not supposed to be in the public eye when he was the CIA's station chief in Tel Aviv in the mid-1990s. An Israeli newspaper outed him when it exposed a program to train Palestinian security personnel at CIA headquarters at Langley.

Mr. Moskowitz, who was more of a diplomatic than a clandestine officer at the time, returned to Washington and worked a second stint as the agency's congressional liaison. In recent years, claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and leaks about national security matters made the position especially demanding.

He retired in 2005, but as a consultant, he was the CIA's representative to the Interagency Working Group on Nazi War Crimes. The team's job was to declassify information in the agency's files. He reported June 6 that the team has released 27,000 pages from 174 files, much of it new material. "We will have withheld nothing of substance. . . . We have done our part. We look forward to the work of the historians to put this material into sound historical context," he said.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/30/AR2006063001629.html

He was one of the best and brightest.

Sir, I am so sorry I didn't get this online sooner.

[glitch]

2. Wow - 27,000 pages. And then he died, perhaps thinking his work done?

68 is awfully young though. Our loss, RIP.

And to the op: Bush ain't Hitler, he's Hitler's Revenge.

[Octafish]

5. Daniel Schorr spelled it out nicely...

From NPR a couple of weeks back...

Lessons from protecting an ex Nazi

By Daniel Schorr
Fri Jun 16, 4:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON - He was just doing his job, he testified, and had nothing personally against Jews. He personified what Hannah Arendt called "The Banality of Evil." He turned massacre into a bureaucratic act – the Holocaust administrator.

I have delayed giving his name, Adolf Eichmann, because I wonder how many still remember it a half century later. Mr. Eichmann escaped from Germany at the end of the war and was living in Buenos Aires when Israeli commandos captured him in May 1960 and flew him to Israel. For him, Israel suspended its ban on capital punishment as he went to trial in April 1961.

His name comes up again because newly released documents reveal that the CIA learned in 1958 of Eichmann's whereabouts in Argentina and his alias, but didn't tell anybody or do anything about it. It was a time when the cold war was dictating policy, and the CIA was using the services of a lot of Nazis, or shall we say ex-Nazis.

SNIP...

But I wonder how they feel in the CIA now, knowing that this mass murderer had been protected by American intelligence for two years. And that, were it not for Israeli intelligence, he might have lived out his life in peace.

• Daniel Schorr is the senior news analyst at National Public Radio.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060616/cm_csm/yschorr16

Thanks for giving a damn, glitch. Getting the Truth out is how we'll win.

PSYCHO NAZI

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. 68 years young? Dead from a heart attack? I don't buy it.

I say he was murdered. Just one more to add to the long list.

[Octafish]

48. The news hit me like a hammer blow.

It made me sit down for more than a moment.

Now I don't know one way or another what happened. What I do know is that the pros make their wet work look natural.

A Study of Assassination: A CIA Manual

http://www.totse.com/en/politics/central_intelligence_agency/161745.html

AGENT ZERO

[Jed Dilligan]

3. South America's backlash right now

has a lot to do with the "Paperclip Conspiracy" and the introduction of RW SS-trained death squads to most of the nations in Latin America.

[Octafish]

6. Operation CONDOR

It sounds absolutely unbelievable, until we see the paper trail that ties these mass murderers together.

The good people of South and Central America have been victimized by these "Beasts," to borrow a phrase...

Pinochet's Mad Scientist

By Samuel Blixen
Consortiumnews January 13, 1999

On Nov. 15, 1992, a terrified scientist broke a window of a white bungalow in the Uruguayan beach town of Parque del Plata.

Chubby, in his mid-40s, the man struggled through the opening. Once outside, furtively and slowly, he picked his way to the local police station.

"I am a Chilean citizen," the scientist told the police when he finally reached the station. He pulled a folded photostatic copy of his identification papers concealed in his right shoe. "I have been abducted by the armies of Uruguay and my country," he claimed.

The scientist, rumpled with a graying beard, said he feared for his life. He insisted that his murder had been ordered by Gen. Augusto Pinochet, then the chief of Chile's army who had ruled as a dictator from 1973 to 1990.

The motive for the execution was the man's anticipated testimony at a politically sensitive trial in Chile, a case that could send reverberations all the way to Washington, D.C.

The scientist had worked as an accomplice in a terror campaign that included the bombing deaths of Chilean dissident Orlando Letelier and an American co-worker Ronni Moffitt as they drove to work in Washington in 1976.

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http://www.consortiumnews.com/1999/c011399a.html

MORE

DIM GANGSTER

[bobbieinok]

75. Bush I was connected to Letelier murder

can't find a 'straight news' link now

[annabanana]

4. (remember to go to yahoo & rate article). . . . . n/t

[Octafish]

7. Nice PDF from The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists...

Written by Linda Hunt, this key work shed light on the subject back in 1985. Why isn't this in the history books?

U.S. coverup of Nazi scientists

"Paperclip" was a U.S. project to employ German scientists in sensitive military and space programs after World War II. This investigation reveals that evidence of Nazi activism and war crimes was suppressed i order to allow many of them to immigrate.

http://thebulletin.org/pdf/temp/041_004_010.pdf

HISTORY?
WHO CARES?

[adwon]

8. One problem

The link on Dulles is, to be honest, nothing more than innuendo. Part I does include some names of people and companies, but Dulles' relation to them is not very clear. Was he a lawyer or a partner? Nor are these explored in depth. What specific dealings was he involved in that were so bad? Part II is completely opinion with a few facts of such a general nature as to make it useless. The author spends the entire time mulling on America's 'feeling' after the war and ends up attributing bad feelings to Dresden, atomic bombs, and internment camps. I see no mention of one particular article from 1946 that was entitled, "Are the Germans even human?" The source's credibility is greatly hurt by ignoring the effects of the newly discovered Holocaust. The credibility also takes a hit by not mentioning the postwar inflation and most Americans' resentment of the slow ending of rationing programs (these two issues were the big winners for the GOP in 1946).

[Octafish]

9. Thanks for bringing that up.

Hope this isn't too vague; they're the only relevant quotes I can find at the moment.

I'll have access to my records later tonight and try to answer your observations.

The CIA used Nazi war criminals as government spies

Prepared by Alexander Timoshik
Pravda.ru

EXCERPT...

Some of the newly released documents show that between 1949 and 1955, the CIA organized "stay-behind" networks of German agents to provide intelligence from behind enemy lines, should the Soviet Union invade western Germany.

SNIP...

In another case, Ohio University historian Norman Goda discussed records showing how former Nazi SS intelligence officer Heinz Felfe, who was recruited by the Soviet KGB after the war, was able to join the West German intelligence service set up by the United States. He eventually rose to become chief of the division responsible for surveillance of the Soviets, the records show.

"He was no common mole," Goda said in a press briefing at the National Archives Building. Felfe was in charge of operations against the Soviets while "he took his orders from the Soviets."

Goda said Felfe caused "massive damage... as large an intelligence disaster as occurred during the Cold War", according to CNN.

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http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/07-06-2006/81687-CIA_Nazi-0

I'm sure you've noticed it's Pravda, but the author quotes the relevant expert.
Thanks for contributing, adwon. Interesting, as always.

[adwon]

60. Thanks

Not quite on Dulles, but hitting other points works too.

Oh, I just remembered something I think you'd enjoy. A few years ago, a friend who "liased" with the green berets at Ft. Bragg told me that, in the JFK Special Warfare building, as I recall, there were pictures...sort of a hall of fame. One of them was former Ukranian SS.

[Octafish]

101. Nixon, NAZIs & Dulles

... & Associates. How Dulles brought NAZIs into CIA…

From the late, great Mae Brussell (1972):

How Nixon Actually Got Into Power

by Mae Brussell (C) The Realist, August 1972

The rise of Adolph Hitler and fascism in Germany was carefully planned. It began with the illegal rearmament of a covert army following defeat in World War I, which was an intentional, secretive breaking of the Versailles Treaty disarmament agreements. American munition manufacturers and industrialists aided the clandestine military leaders of Germany in their rearmament.(1)

EXCERPT...

The Warfare State was set free, following November 22, 1963, to show its ugly face. The war in Asia began to escalate, with no noticeable provocations, only three weeks after the murder of President Kennedy.(7) John Foster Dulles was U.S. Secretary of State from 1953-1959. Before and following these years heading the State Department, this public servant wielded tremendous power and influence with the military and industrial monopolies of power and wealth in the world. He was the architect of "containing Communism."(8) Mr. Dulles confided, "President Eisenhower surrendered all his power to me." In 1956 he said, "Don't bother about what the President said. I write what he says."(9) The State Department was "in my hat." You did not have to rely on the department or its bureaucracy.(10)

His brother, Allen Dulles, headed our spy agency formerly known as the OSS. As long as John Foster Dulles was Secretary of State, Allen Dulles had no need to "chafe under political control." Both brothers "placed supreme confidence in their personal judgments." They were completely trusted and were able to act at will and " shielded from any unpleasant consequences."(11) Adolph Hitler declared war in 1941. By 1942 Allen Dulles was moved to Switzerland for the purpose of rounding up and importing to the United States, German "specialists." Two years before the war ended, or its fate was decided, the United States was making arrangements for Nazi scientists, arms experts to come to our democracy (for which the boys were fighting and dying at that moment). (12)

From 1945 until 1952 the U.S. military brought over 642 alien "specialists" and their families from nazi Germany. They were known collectively by the code name "paperclip." German missile and rocket experts, munition makers, war experts were carefully selected and located into aerospace programs, war industries, armament factories, defense and warfare manufacturing.(13)

Violent anti-communist fears by the military and munition makers justified the exchange for a once democratic nation into the fascist state we have today. Members of the nazi party now hold key positions in our universities, factories, aircraft and aerospace programs.(14) When the nazi empire collapsed in 1945, ex-nazi General Reinhard Gehlen joined forces with our OSS. Gehlen was placed in charge of wartime intelligence for Foreign Armies East. "It was not long before Gehlen was back in business, this time for the United States. Gehlen named his price and terms."(15) A series of meetings was arranged at the Pentagon with nazi Gehlen, Allen Dulles, J. Edgar Hoover and others.(16) The Gehlen organization combined forces and agents with the OSS, which was soon to become known as the CIA. Experts in clandestine and illegal control of Germany through political assassinations and reversal of judicial processes became the new teachers for Allen Dulles and Richard Helms. They helped form the new CIA in 1947, based upon clandestine activities in nazi Germany.(17)

Espionage networks were supposedly to spy out secrets of other nations. Instead they have secretly engaged in clandestine political actions, stirred revolts, overthrown governments and attempted to bring about political change.

The method of maintaining billion dollar war machines and related armament and aircraft factories requires controlling people,political leaders, and otherwise legal governmental agencies. The Communist scare, hot war and cold war propaganda, would continue to manipulate the majority of the people. This scare was the brainchild of the fascist strategist.

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http://www.newsmakingnews.com/mbnixonarticle.htm

WOW! Ms. Brussell wrote that in 1972! Where’s the follow up by Corporate McPravda? Guess there was none.

If they’d only known to follow the money…

Tracking Nazi "Gold"

The OSS and Project SAFEHAVEN

Donald P. Steury

EXCERPT…

Allen Dulles in Bern

Under these circumstances, it is scarcely surprising that implementation of SAFEHAVEN measures depended largely upon the personalities of the OSS chiefs of mission and the conditions under which they operated. In Bern, the heart of the Swiss banking and German gold transfer activity, the OSS chief was Allen W. Dulles, later (1953 to 1962) Director of Central Intelligence. An East Coast brahmin with extensive prewar ties to European banking circles, Dulles spent his tenure in Bern constructing an "old-boy" network of sources that extended throughout neutral and Axis-occupied Europe. It was an astonishingly successful system, ideally suited to his situation in neutral Switzerland and well conceived to gain access to European government and business circles. For example, Dulles counted among his close personal friends no less a personage than Thomas B. McKittrick, President of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), in Basel. A multinational corporation created to manage international currency and gold exchanges, BIS was the single-largest channel for gold transfers in prewar and wartime Europe. McKittrick also was an OSS source who provided Dulles with "comfortable access" to thinking of the bankers most responsible for moving German assets throughout Europe.14 Among other kinds of information, McKittrick kept Dulles informed of the comings and goings of Reichsbankvizepräsident Emil Puhl, the architect of the German gold transfer arrangements.15

Other well-placed sources available to Dulles in high European financial circles included Dr. Eduard Waetjen, Abwehr agent, member of the German resistance, and commercial adviser to the German Consul General from 15 February 1945;16 Maurice Villars, General Director of the Zurich Electro-Bank; and Swedish economist and Economic Adviser to the BIS, Dr. Per Jacobsson, who was close to (the surprisingly extensive) Japanese diplomatic and business circles in Switzerland. In 1945, Jacobsson provided information that helped to scuttle a Japanese attempt to buy vitally needed ball bearings in Sweden and later served with Maurice Villars as a mediator for Japanese peace feelers put forward in Switzerland.17

Such contacts were clearly important, but it also seems clear that the high value Dulles attributed to them--whether because of his social prejudices or his concern for the intelligence they provided--made him wary of intelligence activities such as SAFEHAVEN. Moreover, Dulles looked forward to a postwar settlement that envisioned the United States working closely with European business and banking circles to reshape Western and Central Europe according to American interests. Finally, Dulles could legitimately claim that his staff was already overburdened by the collection of strategic and military intelligence. On 28 December 1944, following receipt of the OSS memorandum regarding cooperation with State's SAFEHAVEN project, he cabled Washington:

Work on this project required careful planning as it might defeat direct intelligence activities and close important channels for German SI.... Today we must fish in troubled waters and maintain contacts with persons suspected of working with Nazis on such matters. For example,...both 49618 and X-2 here can be useful under cover but believe idea of working practically as agents of Commercial Attache and Consul General Zurich, on this project would be unwise. Further, to deal effectively with matter, it would require special staff with new cover.... At present we do not have adequate personnel to do effective job in this field and meet other demands.19

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http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/summer00/art04.html

The bottom line, er?

Nazis in the attic

By Randy Davis

This is part 3, click for part 4

THE NEW WORLD (DIS)ORDER

"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling power.

"Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing."

-- President Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1)

As mentioned earlier, the secret U.S./Nazi corporate alliance during World War II was the result of substantial American investment in post-World War I Germany. In order to protect these investments, and the accumulating profits, the U.S. multinational corporations remained an important part of the Nazi war machine until the final defeat of Germany in 1945. What effect did the end of World War II have on this faction of American Nazi collaborators?

In this section we will review the evidence, much of it from recently de-classified documents, that this pro-Nazi faction, rather than facing charges of high treason, became an integral part of the United States national security apparatus, extending its fascist influence in both foreign and domestic policies and, in effect, creating what has been referred to as America's "Invisible Government." The excuse, of course, was Communism.

THE BUGGING OF WALL STREET

Aarons and Loftus' research, which documents the Dulles brothers' pro-Nazi activities, did not go unnoticed. "Before his death, former Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg granted one of the authors an interview. Justice Goldberg had served in U.S. intelligence during World War II. Although he said little in public, he had collected information on the Dulles boys' activities over the years. His verdict was blunt. 'The Dulles brothers were traitors.' They had betrayed their country, by giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war." (2)

Much of what is now known about the activities of the Dulles brothers and other American Nazi collaborators in banking and industry came as a result of a top-secret joint U.S.-British intelligenceprogram known as the Ultra Project. "Prior to the United States' entry into the war," write Loftus and Aarons, "Roosevelt permitted British intelligence to wiretap American targets.

"According to our sources in the intelligence community, the area of coverage included a good bit of the New York financial district, several floors of Rockefeller Plaza, part of the RCA Building, two prominent clubs, and various shipping firms. . . .

"The wiretap unit reported to Sir William Stephenson, a Canadian electronics genius better known by his code name, 'Intrepid.' From his headquarters in the Rockefeller building, Stephenson's job was to identify U.S. companies that were aiding the Nazis." (3)

"Several months before the United States declared war," continue Loftus and Aarons, "Bill Donovan invited Allen Dulles to head up the New York branch of the Office of the Coordinator of Information (COI), President Roosevelt's new intelligence agency and the precursor to the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). Its primary mission was to collect information against the Nazis and their collaborators. In other words, Dulles was asked to inform on his own clients in New York. . . ."

"Roosevelt had approved his selection as head of the COI Manhattan branch because he wanted Dulles where the British wiretappers could keep an eye on him. . . .

"One floor below Dulles was Stephenson's wiretap shop. Inside Dulles's operation was one of Roosevelt's spies, Arthur Goldberg . . ." who, "confirmed . . . that Dulles's appointment was a setup. . . .

"Roosevelt was giving Dulles enough rope to hang himself. From Stephenson's Manhattan wiretaps, it is known that Dulles was continuing to work with his German business clients, who wanted to remove Hitler and install a puppet of their own who would make peace with the West while forging an alliance against Stalin. It was to be a kinder, gentler Third Reich, favorably disposed to American financial interests. . . . (4)

"The wiretap evidence against Dulles originally was collected by a special section of Operation Safehaven, the U.S. Treasury Department's effort to trace the movement of stolen Nazi booty towards the end of the war. Roosevelt and Treasury Secretary Henry Morganthau had set up Dulles by giving him the one assignment - intelligence chief in Switzerland - where he would be most tempted to aid his German clients with their money laundering."

CONTINUED…

http://globalresistance.com/articles/randy/swas3.htm

Now THAT’s what’s known as “insider trading.”

PS: Sorry, adwon, I was away from the world HQ a little longer than expected. Hope this adds to what I’m trying to get across.

HARKEN whuh?

[formercia]

30. Rationing programs

were probably slow to end because the European agricultural infrastructure, having been severely damaged by the war was unable to supply enough food. The US maintained the supply lines that had been set up during the war and continued to provide staples to Europe and other areas. The Berlin airlift is one good example.

[starroute]

10. Fascinating quote from Trento's "Prelude to Terror"

The opening paragraphs of Chapter 1, "Allen Dulles and Prescott Bush":

By the end of World War II, Prescott S. Bush, the father of George H.W. Bush, was a wealthy and established Wall Street investment banker. Not far from where he worked, a friend of his was doing something very illegal: Allen Welsh Dulles, who had run the famous Bern (Switzerland) Station of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during World War II, was now running a private intelligence service out of an office at 44 Wall Street, using some of the biggest names in American business. Dulles did it because he felt he had to. "The Soviets were throwing everything they had at us. The NKVD (later the KGB) were eating us alive, and Washington could not make up its mind about what to do on intelligence," said Robert T. Crowley, a former aide to Dulles. In Washington, a fight had broken out about who should run the United States intelligence service, or even whether it needed one. J. Edgar Hoover wanted to control overseas intelligence collection through the FBI.

Dulles did not wait while the politicians debated. In the two years between the end of World War II and the creation of the Central Intelligence Agency, Dulles, who had done business with Hitler's supporters before the war, began a massive ex-Nazi recruitment campaign, using a State Department refugee office as a front. The enemy was now Communism; anyone, no matter how unsavory, who was willing to oppose Communism was an ally and a friend to be sought out and courted. Dulles made sure that investment bankers and lawyers who had done business with the Germans before and even during the war were back in touch with their old German contacts. In 1951, when he moved over to the new CIA, he brought with him the networks and assets he had recruited as a private citizen. His knowledge of how Hitler and his cronies had risen to power, and of which Americans had financed that rise, helped make recruiting in the postwar American business community "a lot easier," according to Crowley. Recruitment was so easy that Crowley and a colleague ran an entire CIA office devoted solely to working with executives of major corporations.

Though Trento -- whose book seems to leave out as much as it puts in -- doesn't quite come out and say so, the clear implication is that the CIA in its early days was an organization built on mutual blackmail.

I've read that certain secret societies engage in particularly nefarious initiation rites because it not only enables them to control their members in later years with blackmail but also binds the members more tightly to one another through their common guilt -- the dark knowledge which they have to hide from the rest of the world and can share only with one another.

Ever since it got going, the CIA has been a fraternity of that sort, with its members held together by the mutual secrets of their engagement in torture and assassination and other forbidden rituals. But is it possible that the initial dark secret, which provided the glue for the CIA fraternity right from the start and made it possible for them to set conscience aside and participate in all the other unholy acts, was a shared implication in Nazi collaboration?

[blm]

11. Bush 1 was Nixon's goto guy for blackmailing members of his own party

to get them to vote for his preferred legislation.

Bush was the master at ensnaring GOP lawmakers in deals that seemed legit and then when they turned bad, Bush1 would use that fact to twist their arms for Nixon. Back then, the GOP lawmakers were more independent and could not be trusted to vote party line the way they do now.

[Octafish]

14. Dulles needed to play Prescott, so he enlisted Poppy.

Sometimes, I feel sorry for the Bush family.

Their minds have been washed by pros.

Recruiting George H.W. Bush

GEORGE H.W. BUSH’S ENTIRE early life was devoted to winning the affection and approval of his father. George’s success in sports at Yale and as a World War II hero never seemed to be enough for Prescott. That need for his father’s approval was at the heart of how and why George H. W. Bush was drawn to overseas adventures. Americans know about his public life as a businessman, presidential appointee, politician, and family man. This is, in large part, a public-relations illusion. The real George h.W. Bush probably would have been happiest as a career intelligence officer, according to Rocerick Hills, an old Bush supporter and friend. Bush’s secret history as an intelligence asset is buried in his early career.

There is a myth that George Bush struck off for the Texas oil fields in 1948 to seek his fortune on his own. In reality, his father, with his long-standing connections with Dresser Industries, arranged a job for George with henry Neil Mallon, a fellow Bonesman from Yale and chairman of Dresser. According to another fellow Bonesman of Bush’s, who later rose to a high-level job at the CIA and asked that he not be identified because of his membership in Skull and Bones (and not because of his work for the CIA), Dresser “had long provided cover jobs for the Agency.” Confirming Mallon’s cooperation with the Agency was Robert T. Crowley, who was in charge of relations with corporations providing cover for the Agency. Another former CIA official explained that agents were trained as Dresser salesmen and eventually sent to operate overseas. Because the company sold drilling equipment all over the world, ti was the perfect cover job. But Bush was not on track to be a CIA case officer. The role Dulles had in mind for him, according to William Corson, was that “Bush would operate overseas and meet people who could be targeted for recruitment by the Agency.” Bush was officially considered a CIA business asset, according to Crowley and Corson.

“George’s insecurities were clay to someone like Dulles,” William Corson said. To recruit young George Bush, Robert Crowley explained, Dulles convinced him that “he could contribute to his country as well as get help from the CIA for his overseas business opportunities. Of course it was all nonsense. Dulles could care less about helping the kid. It really was a tool to help give him a wedge with Prescott if he needed it.”

SOURCE: Joseph Trento, Prelude to Terror, pp13-14.

For those new to this subject: Allen Dulles is the same fellah who was in business with Prescott Bush, dealing with the Nazis, in the days before World War II. Dulles is also the same hold-over DCI who advised President John F. Kennedy the Bay of Pigs thing would work. For lying and incompetence, Kennedy sacked Dulles. His career was resurrected after Dallas as a member of the Warren Commission.

Thanks for giving a damn, starroute. It's great reading ya.

[WiseButAngrySara]

12. K & R and bookmarked for later reading, as usual! You are a

DU treasure, Octafish!

[Octafish]

15. Shameful old CIA secrets

Thanks to the BFEE and its allies in Corporate McPravda, it's no wonder history seems to repeat.



From the Boston Globe editorial board:

Shameful old CIA secrets

June 12, 2006

A STRIKING example of the need to keep government from hiding matters that have lost their security sensitivity was on view last week when the CIA, bowing to a 1998 federal law mandating such disclosures, released 27,000 pages of previously classified material documenting how, after World War II , US intelligence agencies shielded Adolf Eichmann and other Nazi war criminals.

The declassified documents contain secrets that were hidden from view not because they might endanger national security, but because they cast shame on governments past.

SNIP...

One of the old CIA documents made public last week at the National Archives is a memo from then-CIA director Allen Dulles noting that the agency had read the Eichmann memoirs and found a mention of Globke "which Life omitting at our request." This bit of CIA censoring was done at the request of the Adenauer government. In hiding Globke's past, the agency was protecting an author of the Third Reich's infamous Nuremberg Laws.

The CIA's discretion was meant to prevent embarrassment for an ally, whose postwar intelligence director, the notorious Reinhard Gehlen, had been Hitler's intelligence boss on the eastern front. A sad truth that haunts the shameful disclosures in these old documents is that many of the erstwhile Nazis sheltered and employed by the CIA or West German intelligence were vulnerable to Soviet blackmail and became double agents. The CIA's ethically indefensible recycling of Nazi war criminals also turned out to be incompetent spycraft. When will they ever learn?

© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2006/06/12/shameful_old_cia_secrets/

Thank you for the kind words, WiseButAngrySara! Very much appreciate your friendship.

[Sydnie]

13. Octafish, have I told you lately

just how much I love and appreciate your posts?

:hug:

Thank you for all the information you bring to the table and all the memories you restore.

[Octafish]

21. Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951

The thing about making war is it's so profitable in so many ways for those who can find a way to keep out of harm's way.

"Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951" - Federal Documents

by John Buchanan and Stacey Michael

November 2, 2005
The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3 - 2003-11-03

Editor's note

We bring to the attention of Global Research readers this important article on the links of the Bush famuily to Nazi Germany, first published in the The New Hampshire Gazette in November 2003.

While this relationship has been amply documented by official US government records (see the book by Webster Tarpley), the authors point in their article to newly discovered US government documents, which suggest that the relationship continued until 1951, nine years after the assets of Prescott Bush were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1942.

After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.

Furthermore, the records show that Bush and his colleagues routinely attempted to conceal their activities from government investigators.

Bush's partners in the secret web of Thyssen-controlled ventures included former New York Governor W. Averell Harriman and his younger brother, E. Roland Harriman. Their quarter-century of Nazi financial transactions, from 1924-1951, were conducted by the New York private banking firm, Brown Brothers Harriman.

The White House did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Although the additional seizures under the Trading with the Enemy Act did not take place until after the war, documents from The National Archives and Library of Congress confirm that Bush and his partners continued their Nazi dealings unabated. These activities included a financial relationship with the German city of Hanover and several industrial concerns. They went undetected by investigators until after World War Two.

At the same time Bush and the Harrimans were profiting from their Nazi partnerships, W. Averell Harriman was serving as President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's personal emissary to the United Kingdom during the toughest years of the war. On October 28, 1942, the same day two key Bush-Harriman-run businesses were being seized by the U.S. government, Harriman was meeting in London with Field Marshall Smuts to discuss the war effort.

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=BUC20051102&articleId=1176

Thank you for the kind words, Sydnie. I'm blessed with an elephant's memory and a reasonable understanding of GOOGLE. One thing I know: The antidote to the BFEE is the Truth.

UNELECTABLE

[bobbieinok]

76. where in the world did you find the Lego picture????

[Octafish]

84. Zbigniew Libera is a genius.

Everybody in Poland knows the guy, I hear.





Work by Polish artist Zbigniew Libera:




The guy got imprisoned by the commies for drawing cartoons about them.




That was in the late 1980s.




Appears to me that the same mindset is coming to America today.




That is, unless more people wake the heck up.




Maybe someone should ask Halliburton to explain why the Bushiz gave them contracts to build all those camps in the USA.




Recently, there was a big show of his work at University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, where I first heard about him. I'm sold on the guy as an artist and good-guy.

Thanks for asking, bobbieinok.

LEGO BRAIN

[Swamp Rat]

16. THEY are breeding a kinder, gentler, more compassionate conservative

Nazi in Amerika nowadays.



People just don't get it Octafish.

"How dare you compare President Bush to Adolf Hitler and our government to the Nazis!" - That statement, which I often hear, is side-stepping (Red Herring AND False Dichotomy) the real, salient issue: our government was infiltrated by Nazis long ago and they have transmogrified it into the Fourth Reich. It has taken 60 years but they did have been very successful.

I wonder how many humans have died at the hands of the U.S. Government in the last 60 years? How many more must die before the American People realize what we have become, in the name of 'Freedom?'

[Octafish]

22. Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

The author, an award-winning New York Times investigative reporter, chronicled just how evil ideas spread quickly:

Eugenics and the NAZIs - The California Connection

by Edwin Black
Sunday, November 9, 2003

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a so-called Master Race.

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the pseudoscience aimed at "improving" the human race. In its extreme, racist form, this meant wiping away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in 27 states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the 20th century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little-known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles Goethe, as well as members of the California state Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

CONTINUED...

http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html

Thanks for giving a damn, Swamp Rat. With the Truth on our side, we can beat these bed-wetting zeros with one hand tied behind our backs.

THE FIRST GUY
TO RUSH THE STAGE
AT A DOORS TRIBUTE.

[Swamp Rat]

23. I saw Edwin Black on Book TV the day after I moved back to the USA

from Brasil... I wanted to pack my bags and go right back, but I had returned to help in the 2004 election.

I have to admit that I feel some disdain for my fellow citizens, but I also realise the power of Fourth Reich propaganda... though, ignorance is no excuse.



I have posted the same link to "War Against the Weak" a few times on DU. There was always someone who responded in utter shock at the truth concerning the eugenics movement started here in the USA. Those responses give me hope, for otherwise I would feel like I did when I was watching a film of a Nazi experiment at Dachau when a blue-eyed, blond-haired football player from Florida State started laughing and joking about eating pizza. It took two professors and a couple of students to keep me from ripping his head from his body. Fortunately, two Israelis escorted him off the premises and he was later disciplined (we were told he was to be expelled from the university). The Israelis were saying things to him as he was taken away and he looked as if he taken a huge dump in his pants. I never followed up on what happened, but I certainly hope he learned his lesson. At least he was ordered to leave the Austrian university where we were studying, for he was no longer wecome and had to return to the USA.

[SpiralHawk]

17. The man inthe very first photograph could be a republicon archetype

he just looks so petty, and bound up, and selfish and mean.

Do you see as much as a hint of honesty or nobility in that face? I doubt it.

Hell - he and all the other cons need a good enema, and a massive dose of Cod Liver Oil.

[Karenina]

18. Forget the enema

Lock the constipated bastards up in one of their bunkers and take away their potty privileges. :evilgrin:

[Octafish]

39. Excellent idea you've got there, Karenina. Let's prosecute these bastards.

While they're there awaiting trial, let's feed them lots of pizza with nothing to drink.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,541072,00.jpg

Hermann Göring and Rudolf Hess as the verdicts were being read at Nuremberg.

Speaking of good ideas:

THE NUREMBERG TRIALS 60 YEARS LATER

Prosecuting the Nazis

The Nuremberg Trials were an attempt to grapple with the unparalleled crimes of the Nazi regime and represented the largest undertaking of its kind ever. By the end of the proceedings, 12 Third Reich political leaders had been sentenced to death. SPIEGEL ONLINE takes a look at the events of 60 years ago.

The proceedings started on Nov. 20, 1945. The scene was the southern German city of Nuremberg, the site of some of the Nazi Party's largest rallies and -- after the war -- little more than a pile of rubble. One building though, survived the Allied bombing raids largely intact: the Nuremberg Palace of Justice. It was here, in Room 600 , that the Allies staged one of the most ambitious war crimes trials ever. Here, the leaders of Adolf Hitler's Nazi government -- one of the most murderous humanity has ever seen -- were to be brought to justice.

Many of the top Nazis, of course, were already dead. Adolf Hitler himself had committed suicide on April 30, 1945 and his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, followed his lead the next day, taking wife Magda and their six children with him. Holocaust architect Reinhard Heydrich had been assassinated by Czechoslovak agents in 1942. But the roll call of defendants was impressive. Head of the German air force and close Hitler confidant Hermann Göring. Rabid anti-Jew baiter Julius Streicher. Head of German navy --and German chancellor in the days following Hitler's suicide -- Karl Dönitz.

US prosecutor Robert H. Jackson presided over the trial, laying out the charges in gruesome detail in his opening speech on Nov. 21. Some 11 months later, the Nuremberg War Crimes Trial came to an end with the handing down of 12 death sentences -- of which only 10 were carried out. Göring committed suicide shortly before his planned execution and Hitler's secretary, Martin Bormann, was sentenced in absentia. It was later discovered that he died during the final days of the war in Berlin. In addition, three were imprisoned for life, four for terms ranging from 10 to 20 years and three acquitted. Three others committed suicide.

The trial lasted nearly a year before coming to an end on Oct. 1, 1946. For Germany, it was only the beginning of a long period of denazification. Indeed, many of the mid-level -- and even some high-level -- Nazis who had a hand in exterminating European Jewry were never brought to justice. But the Nuremberg trial was important for other reasons as well. It laid the foundation for prosecuting war crimes and human rights violations in an international court of law .

CONTINUED WITH LOTS OF DETAILS ON WHAT THE NUREMBERG TRIALS WERE ABOUT...

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,385747,00.html

Thanks for being there, Karenina. We've got them on the run. Again.

DER FUGITIV

[Octafish]

24. You know how to read a face, SpiralHawk. That fella's one Igor Orlov.

Supposedly a loyal NAZI brought to America, really Orlov was loyal to the Kremlin. Dulles and Co. loved what he had to say, despite knowing him as a "man with the soul of a sociopath." The poor woman with him is his wife, in whom he never totally confided.

Orlov’s birth name was Aleksandr Grigoryevich Kopatzky. He was a loyal Stalinist. He volunteered to serve the Kremlin as a double-agent against the NAZIs. He was ordered to fly over NAZI occupied land, shoot the pilot and crew in cold blood, and bail out. He did and was wounded by troops on the ground. He told the story that he wanted to defect from the Soviets. He even gave up the names of several lower Soviet agents who had previously penetrated the Nazis. These men were executed, but helped get Orlov accepted within the Gehlen spy network.

(William) Harvey told (Paul) Garbler that he would be running the Orlov operation, and he explained that he had “major plans” for it. “Nothing,” Harvey said, “is more important than trying to get our own agents recruited in Karlshorst.” He briefed Garbler on Orlov’s use of women to compromise Soviet officers. “To be told you are to be running an operation involving 11 whores and a one-armed piano player was pretty interesting …,” said Garbler. “They wanted me to expand the operation…. They figured that with more girls, we had a better chance of recruiting more officers.” At the outset of a CIA career that was full of hope and promise, Garbler had no way of knowing that he was walking into a nightmare that would dominate the rest of his life.

Garbler’s first meeting at a safe house with Orlov, like his first meeting with Harvey, was unforgettable: “He was a tiny little man. He was perfectly proportioned with those piercing blue eyes and dressed to the nines. He was extremely formal. He was very businesslike. He had this way of capturing your attention…. We never developed a personal relationship. He seemed so very serious.” It was the first of over one hundred safe house sessions between the two men.

From the start, Garbler found the Orlov operation strange. He did not understand why he had to deal with Orlov in German when he and Orlov both spoke Russian fluently. It was one of many things he neve understood about running the little man.

SOURCE: Joseph Trento, "The Secret History of the CIA," pp 130-131.

My step-dad's best friend was expert at detailing a man's character based on his face.

He was amazingly accurate, as well.

Here's one repug face he would've liked to study:

[SpiralHawk]

41. The weak features of this face reveal smirkishness, smarmyness and prissy-

-ness. He does indeed appear prissy.

To me this appears to be the face of, hmmmm, well he realy looks like to me like an archetypal Connecticut preppy AWOL cheerleader deserter member of an occult gang of Skull & Bones Black Magicians.

Using facial clues exclusively, that is my opinion.

How am I doing, Octafish ? Am I close>
My thanks to youh for this and so many other informative threads you create. Meegwich, SH

[nashville_brook]

19. wonder when the BFEE will be done with W

k n r

[Octafish]

44. W'll always have a trust fund.

The Smirk's never worked a day in his life and there's no sign he'll ever have to.



That can change, should justice return to the United States of America.

http://imprisonbush.com/index.php

Or, as you wrote, nashville_brook, W outlives his usefulness.

Consider what the BFEE did to John Hinckley. His family contributed to Poppy's Senatorial campaign in Texas.

http://www.nathanielblumberg.com/neil.htm

Consider what the BFEE did to Osama bin Laden. His family contributed to W's oil bidnisses.

http://www.oilempire.us/bushbinladen.html

Consider what the BFEE did to Lee Harvey Oswald. He was a singleton, but he was the "favorite" of George de Mohrenschildt, who was connected to Poppy Bush.

http://www.ciajfk.com/home4.html

Thanks for giving a damn, nashville_brook. The Truth has them on the run.

VERY CONSERVATIVE

[HughBeaumont]

25. Octafish is becoming my favorite poster.

Read his journal and LEARN, doubters. I once read a quote from a DUer, stating:

I automatically assume any author who uses the following words/phrases is at least a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic:

1) Bush junta

2) Bush family evil empire

3) Bush crime family

oh, and anybody who uses Nazi phrases to describe the present administration...

You know, dismissive shit like that simply gets my blood boiling. The more I read and watch about what's being uncovered with the Bewsh family past, present and future, the heinous people they've done and are doing business with, history's tragic events that they always seem to be associated with, it makes me SICK that there are progressives who refuse to believe that these people "aren't as bad as you say they are".

Put it this way. What have they done that ISN'T documented? What are they responsible for that they've flat out gotten away with; via erasement of witness or paper trail? I imagine more than even the strongest of stomachs can handle.

What burns me up even more is that this shitbag holding the White House hostage is going to get buidings and libraries in progressive cities such as DC named after him. Historians and DC propped up Reagan (and we all know what a do-nothing schlock-meister criminal St. Ronnie was), why wouldn't they do the same with Lancelot Link?

[Octafish]

45. Cliff Baxter of ENRON...

As Kenny Boy Lay's right-hand, Baxter knew where the bodies were buried. So, he had to go. And some professionals gave him the Nazi Treatment.

Here's what Reed Irvine, a conservative who cares about Justice, wrote about the case:

Cracks In Cliff Baxter Case

By Reed Irvine
Accuracy in Media, www.aim.org
May 16, 2002

Carol Baxter may regret having fought so hard to keep the police from releasing the suicide note allegedly written by her husband, Cliff Baxter, the former Enron Vice Chairman. The note was released in spite of her efforts to keep it secret, and copies were published in papers around the country. Dan Nagao, who became friends with Baxter when they were students at Columbia University, saw a copy of the note, and his suspicions about the cause of death were immediately aroused.

He could not visualize Cliff Baxter printing a note like that entirely in block letters, including his name at the end. Nagao had received letters from Baxter at Christmas time every year until last year. He said that all those letters had been written in longhand. He was not the only one who found it hard to believe that a graduate of the Columbia University School of Business Management would block print his handwritten notes and letters. This may explain why Mrs. Baxter did not want the note made public. The expensive lawyers she hired to block its release had argued that it contained "intimate, personal family facts" that should be kept private. That turned out to be false, leaving the possibility that the note was forged as a plausible explanation of why anyone would spend a lot of money to have it suppressed.

After releasing the note, the Sugar Land police closed the Baxter case, declaring his death a suicide. That means they think Baxter wrote it. If Baxter customarily wrote notes and letters in cursive, the police should not have authenticated the suicide note solely by comparing it with a known sample of Baxter's block letters, which would be easy to copy. His fingerprints have to be on the note, and good and writing experts should be consulted.

The police and the medical examiner who performed the autopsy have overlooked an even more critical clue than the note. That is the quantity of Ambien, a hypnotic drug found in Baxter's blood and stomach. Dr. Joye Carter, the chief medical examiner for Harris County, ruled Baxter's death a suicide before the toxicology report was completed. Nearly all the news media began calling Baxter's death a suicide with no evidence to support it. When the toxicology report was issued on February 1, it didn't get the attention it deserved. (The toxicology report and my comments on it are posted here, ED)

The police had informed the medical examiner's office that on January 23, two days before he died, Baxter bought 30 ten-milligram. Ambien tablets. The prescription was for one a day. Patients are told to go to bed immediately and warned not to drive a car. If they don't follow those instructions they may experience a hypnotic trance in which they can be easily controlled by others. The police found only 25 tablets in the bottle. In 24 to 30 hours Baxter apparently took five Ambien tablets, three more than the number prescribed. Dr. Ronald Graeser, a forensic pathologist familiar with Ambien, says that in that case Baxter would have been so heavily drugged that it would not have been possible for him to drive his car to the spot where it was found with his body slumped over the steering wheel.

CONTINUED...

http://www.jerrypippin.com/Cliff%20Baxter.htm

Unka Dick, no one talks about Cliff anymore. Why is that?



Thank you for your kind words and support, HughBeaumont. You put into words what is the hardest part of getting people to understand what the BFEE is all about: Total Power, Profit and Prestige. This stuff we go through -- and the stuff itself -- ar so maddening, I'd go nuts looking into it alone. Besides, I'd be scared without having real Friends in this world.

TOTAL ZERO

[Swamp Rat]

47. Thank you Reed Irvine... but you too are now on Cheney's list.

:hide:

[Gabi Hayes]

26. hey! Mr. Octa....got a few moments to spare on this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1549639&mesg_id=1549639

[Octafish]

55. NAZIs hate Liberals. BFEE hates Liberals.

Gee. All Liberals do is believe in freedom and equality and brotherhood. That's anathema to the rightwing.

From Chip Berlet, one of the good guys...

Fascism
 
By Chip Berlet
September, 1992

This article is adapted from the author's preface to Russ Bellant's book Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party, co-published by South End Press and Political Research Associates.

"Fascism, which was not afraid to call itself reactionary... does not hesitate to call itself illiberal and anti-liberal."
--Benito Mussolini

We have all heard of the Nazis--but our image is usually a caricature of a brutal goose-stepping soldier wearing a uniform emblazoned with a swastika. Most people in the U.S. are aware that the U.S. and its allies fought a war against the Nazis, but there is much more to know if one is to learn the important lessons of our recent history.

Technically, the word NAZI was the acronym for the National Socialist German Worker's Party. It was a fascist movement that had its roots in the European nationalist and socialist movements, and that developed a grotesque biologically-determinant view of so-called "Aryan" supremacy. (Here we use "national socialism" to refer to the early Nazi movement before Hitler came to power, sometimes termed the "Brownshirt" phase, and the term "Nazi" to refer to the movement after it had consolidated around ideological fascism.)

The seeds of fascism, however, were planted in Italy. "Fascism is reaction," said Mussolini, but reaction to what? The reactionary movement following World War I was based on a rejection of the social theories that formed the basis of the 1789 French Revolution, and whose early formulations in this country had a major influence on our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

It was Rousseau who is best known for crystallizing these modern social theories in The Social Contract. The progeny of these theories are sometimes called Modernism or Modernity because they challenged social theories generally accepted since the days of Machiavelli. The response to the French Revolution and Rousseau, by Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, and others, poured into an intellectual stew which served up Marxism, socialism, national socialism, fascism, modern liberalism, modern conservatism, communism, and a variety of forms of capitalist participatory democracy.

Fascists particularly loathed the social theories of the French Revolution and its slogan: "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity."

* Liberty from oppressive government intervention in the daily lives of its citizens, from illicit searches and seizures, from enforced religious values, from intimidation and arrest for dissenters; and liberty to cast a vote in a system in which the ; majority ruled but the minority retained certain inalienable rights.
* Equality in the sense of civic equality, egalitarianism, the notion that while people differ, they all should stand equal in the eyes of the law.
* Fraternity in the sense of the brotherhood of mankind. That all women and men, the old and the young, the infirm and the healthy, the rich and the poor, share a spark of humanity that must be cherished on a level above that of the law, and that binds us all together in a manner that continuously re-affirms and celebrates life.

CONTINUED...

http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/berlet_fascism.html

Thanks for the heads up on that JFK assassination thread, Gabi Hayes! Got over and put in my nickel's worth. Odd how so many DUers agree with J Edgar Hoover, of all people.

Speaking of J Edgar...

MAO MAO
NEOKKKON

[bobbieinok]

77. Chip Berlet frequently has articles at talk2action

a web site that monitors dominionism

http://www.talk2action.org

[Sad4world]

27. Dulles + Bush = Nazi's

This film explains who has been running this country for a long time.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4315024059102108031

[AnOhioan]

28. This should be frontpage banners on every newspaper...

in the country. Not that it ever will be.

[Sir Jeffrey]

52. Thank you for the video link...Highly recommended nt

[Octafish]

56. Good thing Mussolini never heard of the ''Military Industrial Complex.''

What you said, Sad4world, is the sad formula that haunts America.
Nazis depend on war.
Bush depends on war.

We must break the cycle.
Our agent?
The Truth.

From Chip Berlet...

Mussolini on the Corporate State

by Chip Berlet

A Google(tm) search on January 12, 2005 turned up some 5,000 hits on the following quote:

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

SNIP...

Where the quote comes from remains a mystery, and while it is possible Mussolini said it someplace at some time, a number of researchers have been unable to find it after months of research.

SNIP...

It is unlikely that Mussolini ever made this statement because it contradicts most of the other writing he did on the subject of corporatism and corporations. When Mussolini wrote about corporatism, he was not writing about modern commercial corporations. He was writing about a form of vertical syndicalist corporatism based on early guilds. The article on Wikipedia on Corporatism explains this rather well.

Here are some typical Mussolini quotes from original documents:


The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State--a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values--interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people. (p. 14)

Fascism recognises the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade-unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which diverent interests are coordinated and harmonised in the unity of the State. (p.15)

Yet if anyone cares to read over the now crumbling minutes giving an account of the meetings at which the Italian Fasci di Combattimento were founded, he will find not a doctrine but a series of pointers… (p. 23)

"It may be objected that this program implies a return to the guilds (corporazioni). No matter!... I therefore hope this assembly will accept the economic claims advanced by national syndicalism." (p. 24)

Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere. (p. 32)

The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State. (p. 41).

Benito Mussolini, 1935, The Doctrine of Fascism, Firenze: Vallecchi Editore.

The Labour Charter (Promulgated by the Grand Council ofr Fascism on April 21, 1927)—(published in the Gazzetta Ufficiale, April 3, 1927) (p. 133)

The Corporate State and its Organization (p. 133)


The corporate State considers that private enterprise in the sphere of production is the most effective and usefu instrument in the interest of the nation. In view of the fact that private organisation of production is a function of national concern, the organiser of the enterprise is responsible to the State for the direction given to production.

State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management. (pp. 135-136)

Benito Mussolini, 1935, Fascism: Doctrine and Institutions, Rome: 'Ardita' Publishers.

SOURCE:

http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html

Sheesh. We'd be in real trouble if Benito and Adolf and Tojo had gotten ahold of A-bomb.

Thanks for the link to the remarkable video, Sad4world. It does a heck of a job putting tons of pages into one film.

PS: A most hearty welcome to DU. I appreciate you giving a damn about the way things got to be this way and what we can do about making things right -- in the best sense.

[lonestarnot]

57. Woowooowooodamnhooo to this video! Yes Yes and more yes.

[Sad4world]

61. To:

AnOhioan, Sir Jeffrey, Octafish, and lonestarnot.

Here's a link with great videos. I recently viewed "Terror Storm" and its incredible! Enjoy.

http://www.rbnlive.com/

BTW, thanks for the welcome Octafish, I'm a person that believes in addressing the problem not the symtoms.

[lonestarnot]

67. Spent last evening into the wee hours watching the above video.

Will check this site out tonight. Thanks very much.

[Sad4world]

72. You

are very welcome, but I'm afraid that if you liked the previous video as much as you expressed, you will be up for a number of night's "into the wee hours" watching all of the available videos.
But you did say "and more yes" and they are all great.
Enjoy.

[lonestarnot]

74. Thanks Sad4World

I have some time tonight. Have been having a pretty easy four days off for me. I am usually working myself to death doing something. Viewing the videos gets my blood flowing, but it's not strenuous. I can sort of relax. Watching now. Thanks so much.

[rman]

29. docu: "Banking with Hitler"

http://www.chomskytorrents.org/TorrentDetails.php?TorrentID=403

"Swiss banks stand accused of collaborating with the Nazis during World War II. This was suspected at the time by by U.S. Secretary of Treasury Henry Morgenthau, who began investigating this collaboration. He found the Swiss were not alone. His archives reveal that both British and American bankers continued to do business with Hitler, even as Germany was invading Europe and bombing London.

This investigative film shows in detail the roles played by the Anglo-German banking clique. Key members of the Bank of England together with their German counterparts established the BIS, the Bank for International Settlement, which laundered the plundered gold of Europe. On its board were key Nazis such as Walther Funk and Hjalamar Schact The president of BIS was an American, Thomas McKittrick, who readily socialized with leading Nazis.

Not only the BIS, but other allied banks worked hand in hand with the Nazis. One of the biggest American banks kept a branch open in Occupied Paris and, with full knowledge of the managers in the U.S., froze the accounts of French Jews. Deprived of money to escape France, many ended up in death camps. When Pres. Roosevelt died in April 1945, Morganthau lost his protector and his crusade against the banks came to an end. He was further weakened when men in his department were accused of being Communists during the McCarthy era.

This incredible story contains interviews with surviving members of banking families and Morganthaus investigative team as well as newly found archive material."

[Octafish]

64. Morgenthau had American Nazis pegged until FDR died.

It's not funny how the BFEE cornered the really big money.

When FDR passed, We the People lost a real champion.

Trading with the Enemy
The Nazi - American Money Plot 1933-1949

by Charles Higham
Delacorte Press, 1983

Preface

p xiii
...a number of financial and industrial figures of World War II and several members of the government served the cause of money before the cause of patriotism. While aiding the United States' war effort, they also aided Nazi Germany's.

p xiv
It thus came as a severe shock to learn that several of the greatest American corporate leaders were in league with Nazi corporations before and after Pearl Harbor, including I.G. Farben, the colossal Nazi industrial trust that created Auschwitz. Those leaders interlocked through an association I have dubbed The Fraternity. Each of these business leaders was entangled with the others through interlocking directorates or financial sources. All were represented internationally by the National City Bank or by the Chase National Bank and by the Nazi attorneys Gerhardt Westrick and Dr. Heinrich Albert. All had connections to that crucial Nazi economist, Emil Puhl, of Hitler's Reichsbank and the Bank for International Settlements.

The tycoons were linked by an ideology: the ideology of Business as Usual. Bound by identical reactionary ideas, the members sought a common future in fascist domination regardless of which world leader might further that ambition.

Several members not only sought a continuing alliance of interests for the duration of World War II but supported the idea of a negotiated peace with Germany that would bar any reorganization of Europe along liberal lines. It would leave as its residue a police state that would place The Fraternity in postwar possession of financial, industrial, and political autonomy. When it was clear that Germany was losing the war the businessmen became notably more "loyal.''

Then, when war was over, the survivors pushed into Germany, protected their assets, restored Nazi friends to high office, helped provoke the Cold War, and insured the permanent future of The Fraternity.

p xv
To this day the bulk o~ Americans do not suspect The Fraternity. The government smothered everything, during and even (inexcusably) after the war. What would have happened if millions of American and British people, struggling with coupons and lines at the gas stations, had learned that in 1942 Standard Oil of New Jersey managers shipped the enemy's fuel through neutral Switzerland and that the enemy was shipping Allied fuel? Suppose the public had discovered that the Chase Bank in Nazi-occupied Paris after Pearl Harbor was doing millions of dollars' worth of business with the enemy with the full knowledge of the head office in Manhattan? Or that Ford trucks were being built for the German occupation troops in France with authorization from Dearborn, Michigan? Or that Colonel Sosthenes Behn, the head of the international American telephone conglomerate ITT, flew from New York to Madrid to Berne during the war to help improve Hitler's communications systems and improve the robot bombs that devastated London? Or that ITT built the Focke-Wulfs that dropped bombs on British and American troops? Or that crucial ball bearings were shipped to Nazi-associated customers in Latin America with the collusion of the vice-chairman of the U. S. War Production Board in partnership with Goring's cousin in Philadelphia when American forces were desperately short of them? Or that such arrangements were known about in Washington and either sanctioned or deliberately ignored?

SNIP...

As for Roosevelt, the Sphinx still keeps his secrets. That supreme politician held all of the forces of collusion and betrayal in balance, publicly praising those executives whom he knew to be questionable. Before Pearl Harbor, he allowed such egregious executives as James D. Mooney of General Motors and William Rhodes Davis of the Davis Oil Company to enjoy pleasant tete-a-tetes with Hitler and Goring, while maintaining a careful record of what they were doing. During the war, J. Edgar Hoover, Adolf A. Berle, Henry Morgenthau, and Harold Ickes kept the President fully advised of all internal and external transgressions. With great skill, he never let the executives concerned know that he was on to them. By using the corporate leaders for his own war purposes as dollar-a-year men, keeping an eye on them and allowing them to indulge, under license or not, in their international tradings, he at once made winning the war a certainty and kept the public from knowing what it should not know.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Trading_Enemy_excerpts.html

Geebus. That history is almost all news to me, rman. Thank you very much.

BTW: Every day I appreciate Chomsky more and more.

NEVER WORKS,
BORN ON VACATION

[TheUnspeakable]

31. Octafish! Thanks for posting this!

I was just thinking about you last night-hoping there would soon be a new BFEE post. I was watching a docu on the history channel (yech-but it was a halfway decent one)about the "curse" of the Kennedys. yeah, that "curse" has a name! Anyway, if only a quarter of this stuff was public knowledge, we'd never be where we are today. I try to tell people about it-the history of the CIA,
the bushies and the Nazis, etc. and they have a hard time swallowing it. I say 'these guys are Nazis'
and they're like " yeah, they suck" and I say "no, I mean they're LITERALLY NAZIS!" Oh well, we'll keep plugging away. One of these days I'm going to read over your journals -I keep trying to make the time. Love you and all your work!

[Octafish]

65. Bush - Nazi Link Confirmed

News from the nation's oldest newspaper:

Bush - Nazi Link Confirmed

By by John Buchanan
from The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 1, October 10, 2003

WASHINGTON - After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners.

The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury and FBI, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law.

Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial baron for nearly eight months after the U.S. entered the war.

No Story?

For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official" Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S. history books covering World War II and its aftermath.

The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.

The Summer of '42

The unraveling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S. enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of offices at 39 Broadway under the supervision of Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran in the New York Herald-Tribune on July 30, 1942. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for nearly eight months.

"Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank," declared the headline. The lead paragraph characterized Fritz Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact, the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography, I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf Hess.

CONTINUED...

http://nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_Link

Here's an excellent recap of the business side of the Bush Family connection to the NAZIs. What makes me sad, is they weren't alone. Many of America's wealthiest invested in the Third Reich. How where they to know Hitler was a bad man? They knew because they wanted Hitler to fight the commies for them.

Most importantly: You're welcome, JennasLiver! Thank you for thinking of me. I truly appreciate your Friendship.

GLOBAL MENACE

[Tsiyu]

32. I love your posts, Octafish

Everytime I see "Know Your BFEE" I think of the David Letterman Show and imagine Paul and the band have composed a "Know Your BFEE" jingle just for you!

So much more fun than "Know your cuts of meat" they should make it a game on the Late Show.

[Swamp Rat]

33. Bom dia amorzinha!

Tudo bem? Eu estava acordado toda noite, mais o vampiro tem que dormir agora. :D

[Tsiyu]

36. Sleep tight, Swampy

Sorry about Brasil! :hug:

[Octafish]

68. The series takes after Dick Tracy's ''Crimestopper's Notebook''

Thanks for thinking of me, buddyhollysghost. My idea behind "Know your BFEE" is to know the crooks and what we need to do about them:

Bush Crime Family Links

http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/bushcrimefamily.htm

MAJOR NUTJOB

[Tsiyu]

82. I'm old enough to remember the old Crimestoppers Notebook cutouts

in the Sunday Dick Tracy comics, and glad to give this a kick :)


:kick:

[garthranzz]

34. See THE SECRET WAR AGAINST THE JEWS

by John Loftus for a very detailed account of the nazi-arab-cia-political-oil connections If only half of what he writes is true, not just the security industry stinks like a rotting corpse. It's a thick book, and controversial, but eye-opening. Dulles-Nixon-Bush I are thoroughly intertwined with the nazis and arab oil. (Nelson Rockefeller as well.)

As I recall the characterization of the other presidents: Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy were pretty much out of this loop, though if I recall correctly Truman put a stop to what he knew about. Carter and Reagan were played for fools, in different ways.

Given that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Haliburton are old school, and that Shrub is probably a narrow-minded alcoholic, one wonders about the power structure. Who gives who what, since Shrub can always use the ultimate temper tantrum.

[Octafish]

69. Former US Attorney John Loftus pegged the Wall Street-NAZI link.

Thanks for the heads up on Loftus, garthranzz. Some days I can't understand the guy -- he says W isn't to be blamed for Prescott's shenanigans -- but he has documented just how the Big Money Boys hooked up with Hitler and the rest of the NAZI nutjobs.

Former Federal Prosecutor John Loftus confirms the Bush-Nazi scandal

Copyright October 31. 2003

EXCERPT...

THE BUSH-DULLES-NAZI CONNECTION

"George Bush's problems were inherited from his namesake and maternal grandfather, George Herbert 'Bert' Walker, a native of St. Louis, who founded the banking and investment firm of G. H. Walker and Company in 1900. Later the company shifted from St. Louis to the prestigious address of 1 Wall Street. . . .

"Walker was one of Hitler's most powerful financial supporters in the United States. The relationship went all the way back to 1924, when Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist, was financing Hitler's infant Nazi party. As mentioned in earlier chapters, there were American contributors as well.

"Some Americans were just bigots and made their connections to Germany through Allen Dulles's firm of Sullivan and Cromwell because they supported Fascism. The Dulles brothers, who were in it for profit more than ideology, arranged American investments in Nazi Germany in the 1930s to ensure that their clients did well out of the German economic recovery. . . .

"Sullivan & Cromwell was not the only firm engaged in funding Germany. According to 'The Splendid Blond Beast,' Christopher Simpson's seminal history of the politics of genocide and profit, Brown Brothers, Harriman was another bank that specialized in investments in Germany. The key figure was Averill Harriman, a dominating figure in the American establishment. . . .

"The firm originally was known as W. A. Harriman & Company. The link between Harriman & Company's American investors and Thyssen started in the 1920s, through the Union Banking Corporation, which began trading in 1924. In just one three-year period, the Harriman firm sold more than $50 million of German bonds to American investors. 'Bert' Walker was Union Banking's president, and the firm was located in the offices of Averill Harriman's company at 39 Broadway in New York.

"In 1926 Bert Walker did a favor for his new son-in-law, Prescott Bush. It was the sort of favor families do to help their children make a start in life, but Prescott came to regret it bitterly. Walker made Prescott vice president of W. A. Harriman. The problem was that Walker's specialty was companies that traded with Germany. As Thyssen and the other German industrialists consolidated Hitler's political power in the 1930s, an American financial connection was needed. According to our sources, Union Banking became an out-and-out Nazi money-laundering machine. . . .

CONTINUED...

http://www.john-loftus.com/bush_nazi_scandal.asp

BTW: Harriman is the same Harriman who failed to follow JFK's orders to start a back-channel to North Vietnam in order to negotiate a US withdrawal.

IN OVER
HIS HEAD

[lonestarnot]

91. War profiteering is in their genes.

[bobbieinok]

78. Loftus gave a speech in the mostly Jewish retirement enclave

just before FL2000. I say this at DU with questions about WHY it was taking so long for the Nazi-Bush tie to become known....once out, it was claimed, no Jew would ever again vote for/support a Bush

[Radical Activist]

35. Your pictures don't mean anything to me

because you don't label them and I don't recognize what they are. Also, there seems to be a huge leap from the information contained in the articles and the broad claims you're making.

[Octafish]

37. You're right. Thanks and please allow me to spell it out for you…

Going from the top:



Eleanor and Igor Orlov.

Supposedly a loyal NAZI brought to America, really Orlov was loyal to the Kremlin. Dulles and Co. loved what he had to say, despite knowing him as a "man with the soul of a sociopath." The poor woman with him is his wife, in whom he never totally confided.

Orlov’s birth name was Aleksandr Grigoryevich Kopatzky. He was a loyal Stalinist. He volunteered to serve the Kremlin as a double-agent against the NAZIs. He was ordered to fly over NAZI occupied land, shoot the pilot and crew in cold blood, and bail out. He did and was wounded by troops on the ground. He told the story that he wanted to defect from the Soviets. He even gave up the names of several lower Soviet agents who had previously penetrated the Nazis. These men were executed, but helped get Orlov accepted within the Gehlen spy network.



Adolf Eichmann. Nazi mass murderer, helped mechanize the deportation of Jews and others to concentration and death camps. He escaped justice after the surrender. The CIA knew his whereabouts in South America, but refused to divulge it, ostensibly to protect top officials in the new German government and to protect their spy operations against the Soviet Union.




U.S. President Ronald W. Reagan lays a wreath at a cemetery in Bitburg, Germany where members of the SS are buried. The SS was the military arm of the Nazi party, responsible for the deaths of millions.




The monkey on top of the globe is from John Heartfield, an anti-fascist artist who worked in 1930s Germany. Because of his opposition to Hitler, Heartfield changed his name from Helmut Hertzfeld. The artist also helped invent collage. What do you bet he’d be a wiz today, with Photoshop? I borrowed the original and added Smirkelgruber’s face.

More on Heartfield: http://www.towson.edu/heartfield/2.html



“And Yet It Moves”


Regarding the leap between the NAZIs and the Bush Family Evil Empire, this excellent overview from Carla Binion….

Nazis & Bush Family History: Government Investigated Bush Family's Financing Of Hitler

By Carla Binion OnlineJournal.com
December 22, 2001

This article on Nazis in the Republican party was originally published in Online Journal on 1/28/00. However, the following includes additional information regarding George H. W. Bush's father, Prescott, and his maternal grandfather, George Herbert (Bert) Walker, and the fact that the U. S. government investigated their financing of Adolf Hitler.

One book referenced here, Christopher Simpson's "Blowback," was praised by journalist Seymour Hersh as "the ultimate book about the worst kind of cold war thinking." Nora Levin, Director, Holocaust Archive, Gratz College, said "The full story of this country's shameful, cynical collaboration with Nazi criminals has not been told until now with the publication of Simpson's book." Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman said, 'Blowback' is a must read for anyone who wants to understand postwar policy on Nazi war criminals and the cold war."

In another Simpson book, "The Splendid Blonde Beast," the author wrote about George H. W. Bush's father, Prescott, and his maternal grandfather, George Herbert Walker. Both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush were powerful financial supporters of Adolf Hitler.

Walker was president of Union Banking Corporation, a firm that traded with Germany and helped German industrialists consolidate Hitler's political power. Simpson says Union Banking became a Nazi money-laundering machine.

Walker helped take over North American operations of Hamburg-Amerika Line, a shipping line and cover for I. G. Farben's Nazi espionage unit in the U. S. Hamburg-Amerika smuggled in German agents, and brought in money for bribing American politicians to support Hitler. A 1934 congressional investigation showed Hamburg-Amerika subsidized Nazi propaganda efforts in the U. S.

George H. W. Bush's father, Prescott, was a board member of Union Banking and a senior partner in a Union Banking affiliate,Äîthe investment firm Brown Brothers, Harriman. The U. S. government investigated both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush, and under the Trading with the Enemy Act seized all shares of Union Banking, including shares held by Prescott Bush. The government held that "huge sections of Prescott Bush's empire had been operated on behalf of Nazi Germany and had greatly assisted the German war effort."

CONTINUED...

http://www.lightwatcher.com/culturejam/nazi_finance.html

Really appreciate your questions, Radical Activist. Thanks for giving a damn.

BIG NUTZI

[Radical Activist]

38. Thanks

for the thorough response. That clears it up.

[Kansas Wyatt]

40. I think a Octafish History Credit should be mandatory

Requirement to receive a High School Diploma in the United States. Every American should see your tireless efforts to educate people of the parasites sucking the life out of America. If there are any skeptics, let them attempt to disprove you.

[Hubert Flottz]

62. And where did the Dulles gangsters get all their untrackable cash

to do all the things they did?




Nazi Gold: The Merkers Mine Treasure

Late on the evening of March 22, 1945, elements of Lt. Gen. George Patton's Third Army crossed the Rhine, and soon thereafter his whole army crossed the river and drove into the heart of Germany. Advancing northeast from Frankfurt, elements of the Third Army cut into the future Soviet Zone and advanced on Gotha. Just before noon on April 4, the village of Merkers fell to the Third Battalion of the 358th Infantry Regiment, Ninetieth Infantry Division, Third Army. During that day and the next the Ninetieth Infantry Division, with its command post at Keiselbach, consolidated its holdings in the Merkers area.

During April 4 and 5, displaced persons in the vicinity interrogated by the Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) personnel of the Ninetieth Infantry Division mentioned a recent movement of German Reichsbank gold from Berlin to the Wintershal AG's Kaiseroda potassium mine at Merkers. In all of these instances they quoted rumors, but none stated their own knowledge that gold was present in the mine. But just before noon on April 5, a member of Military Intelligence Team 404-G, attached to the 358th Infantry Regiment, who was in Bad Salzungen, about six miles from Merkers, interviewed French displaced persons who had worked in the mine at Merkers. They told him they had heard that gold had been stored in the mine. The information was passed on to the G-2 (intelligence section) of the Ninetieth Infantry Division, and orders were issued prohibiting all civilians from circulating in the area of the mine.

Early the next morning, two military policemen guarding the road entering Keiselbach from Merkers saw two women approaching and promptly challenged and stopped them. Upon questioning, the women stated that they were French displaced persons. One of the women was pregnant and said she was being accompanied by the other to see a midwife in Keiselbach. After being questioned at the XII Corps Provost Marshal Office, they were driven back into Merkers. Upon entering Merkers, their driver saw the Kaiseroda mine and asked the women what sort of a mine it was. They said it was the mine in which the German gold reserve and valuable artworks had been deposited several weeks before and added that local civilians and displaced persons had been used for labor in unloading and storing the treasure in the mine.

By noon on April 6 the women's story had reached Lt. Col. William A. Russell the Ninetieth Infantry Division's G-5 (civilian affairs) officer. He proceeded to the mine, where interviews with displaced persons in the area confirmed the women's story. They told him that works of art were also stored in the mine and that Dr. Paul Ortwin Rave, curator of the German State Museum in Berlin as well an assistant director of the National Galleries in Berlin, was present to care for the paintings. Russell then confronted mine officials with this information, and they stated they knew that gold and valuable art were stored in the mine and that other mines in the area were likewise used for storing valuables. Russell also questioned Werner Veick, the head cashier of the Reichsbank's Foreign Notes Department who was also at the mine, and Rave. The latter informed Russell that he was in Merkers to care for paintings stored in the mine. Veick indicated that the gold in the mine constituted the entire reserve of the Reichsbank in Berlin. More...........

http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1999/spring/nazi-gold-merkers-mine-treasure.html

How many other stashes like this one above went unreported? What might have happened to the gold that was never found? We know that some of the gold made it to South America aboard U boats.

I once flew past this very mine site, near the old East/West German border on the river Werra, as I was on the way with the rest of my platoon to an LZ, where we began a foot patrol of our section of the border. I got a good look at and a photo of, the above ground part of the operation. The mine is still in operation today.

The CIA had the money to do anything they wanted to do without leaving any trails and without being bothered by any real congressional oversight, IMHO.

[bobthedrummer]

109. Edwin W. Pauley was put in charge of War Reparations-research him

another link into the BFEE history of total corruption.

[Octafish]

110. I, for one, get stuck on Allen Dulles.

The guy was at the axis, so to speak.

For two, Edwin Pauley rings a bell.

Nazi Gold

Safehaven Operations

EXCERPT...

In fact, Dulles’ career in Berne during WWII is marked by several money laundering cases. After the Nazis tipped Dulles off that the Swiss codes had been broken, Dulles shifted his operation to the banks of Belgium, Luxembourg and Liechtenstein, using a roundabout route through Japan aided by Vatican couriers. 8 After the end of the war all the banks in these countries refused to allow allied investigators to look at their books. One of Dulles’ dirtiest tricks may have been an effort to buy more time to move Nazi gold through Switzerland. A former East Bloc intelligence officer has confirmed that Dulles warned the Nazis the Japanese code had been broken at a crucial time. Shortly after warning the Nazis, the SS suddenly told the High Command to use tighter code security and to stop using the radio. They suddenly stopped using Ultra and switched to couriers. For once, the Allies had no information on the German battle plan. This most likely explains how the German’s were able to launch the Battle of the Bulge as a complete surprise.13

Dulles and his comrades certainly exerted a large amount of influence to ensure US investments in Nazi Germany were not seized for repartitions. In Switzerland, the SS had purchased a large amount of stock in American corporations and laundered their money through the Chase and the Corn Exchange banks. Even more brazen was the case of Pan Am clippers hired by W.R. Grace Corporation to transport Nazi gems, currency, stock and bonds to South America. The operations were the product of Dulles’ money laundering for the Nazis. 11 Several American officers readily admit that much of the Nazi gold was never turned over to them. One officer admits to being in a huge vault filled with gold, gems and currency that never appeared in any US files.9

Dulles had been a backer of Germany for a longtime and he envisioned Germany as a bulkhead against the Soviets. The young Lt. William Casey was another OSS agent that shared Dulles’ views of a German bulkhead. Casey served in the SI division in France and the Lowlands after they were recaptured. In a report from Paris, Casey wrote that Safehaven was a valuable field of endeavor, especially because of the potential for leverage with German financial circles, etc., in the future. 12 Following the war, Casey entered a career on Wall Street before becoming a director of the CIA under Reagan.

In 1946, Dulles’s men simply changed their OSS uniforms and became the War Department Strategic Service Unit. Sometimes they were War Department Detachment and others the Document Disposal Unit. In effect, there were two factions left over of the OSS. One a liberal faction took orders from the President and the other under the control of Dulles. The latter faction was hoping for a conservative victory by Dewey so they could unleash their émigré army against the Soviets. Dulles had a secret ally in Region IV around Munich, where the Counter Intelligence Corp (CIC) was helping to recruit ex-Nazis.14

Given Dulles’ close association with German industrialists, he was unwilling to give attention to Safehaven that Washington expected. In November1944, with the Allies now in control of France, a land route to Switzerland had been reestablished, which made it possible to send an X2 agent to Berne to help run the Safehaven program there. By April 1945, X2 in Berne had unearthed a large amount of information on Nazi dealings. Included in the dealings:

Gold and bonds looted from Europe and received by certain Swiss banks.

Additional funds sent by the Deutsche Verkehrs-Kreditbank of Karlsruhe to Basel.

Stocks and bonds held in Zurich by private firms for the Nazi Party.

Hoards of Swiss francs credited to private accounts in various Swiss banks.

Cash and property held in Liechtenstein.

Over 2 million francs held by the Reichsbank in Switzerland.

Forty-five million Reichsmarks held in covert Swiss bank accounts.15

Such information gleaned in less than four months by the X2 agent only confirms the information that has surfaced over the years that Dulles was working hard for the Nazis in hiding their loot, especially considering Dulles was a friend with the American Director of the Bank for International Settlements and top Nazi banking officials.

After the investigation into his money laundering Dulles resigned from the OSS and returned to New York. He then sought out Thomas McKittrick the former head of the Bank of International Settlements. The Nazis had moved a large amount of their assets from Switzerland to Argentina. Dulles soon went to work for a staggering number of Argentinean clients. Dulles and Donovan agreed that every effort should be made to sabotage Truman and the liberals. To this end, Dulles conned Donovan into serving on the board of the World Commerce Corporation of which Dulles was the lawyer. The Nazi money flowed in a circle from Germany to the Vatican then on to Argentina and then back to Germany. The Argentina economy boomed from the influx of the Nazi money. The so-called economic miracle of 1950s came from the same money the Nazis looted from Europe in the 1940s.10

CONTINUED...

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/goldp2.html

For two, Pauley and Dulles knew how to par-tay...

Nazis in the Attic

EXCERPT...

"One of Allen Dulles's secret spies inside the Democratic party later became George Bush's partner in the Mexican oil business. Edwin Pauley, a California oil man, was . . . one of Dulles's covert agents in the Roosevelt and Truman admini-strations . . . a 'big business' Democrat. . . .

Among the key posts held by Pauley were: treasurer of the Democratic National Committee, director of the Democratic convention in 1944 and, after Truman's election, Truman appointed him the "Petroleum Coordinator of Lend-Lease Supplies for the Soviet Union and Britain."

Just after the end of World War II, "in April 1945 Truman appointed Pauley as the U.S. representative to the Allied Reparations Committee, with the rank of ambassador," as well as "industrial and commercial advisor to the Potsdam Conference, 'where his chief task was to renegotiate the reparations agreements formulated at Yalta.' As one historian noted, the 'oil industry has always watched reparations activities carefully.' There was a lot of money involved, and much of it belonged to the Dulles brothers' clients."

At the same time, report Loftus and Aarons, "the Dulles brothers were still shifting Nazi assets out of Europe for their clients as well as for their own profit. They didn't want the Soviets to get their hands on these assets or even know that they existed. Pauley played a significant role in solving this problem for the Dulles brothers. The major part of Nazi Germany's industrial assets was located in the zones occupied by the West's forces. As Washington's man on the ground, Pauley managed to deceive the Soviets for long enough to allow Allen Dulles to spirit much of the remaining Nazi assets out to safety. . . .

"Pauley, a key player in the plan to hide the Dulles brothers' Nazi assets, then moved into another post where he could help them further. After successfully keeping German assets in Fascist hands, Pauley was given the job of 'surveying Japan's assets and determining the amount of its war debt.' Again, it was another job that was crucial to the Dulles clique's secret financial and intelligence operations." (2)

After Pauley retired from government work he went back to being an independent oil man. Loftus and Aarons state that: "In 1958 he founded Pauley Petroleum which: . . . teamed up with Howard Hughes to expand oil production in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas5a.htm

After seeing how much Dulles and his cadre felt about money, power and politics, I almost feel sorry for the Bushes.

WAR TURD

[bobthedrummer]

111. McKittrick, the BIS, Dulles-good Lord--the BIS was the realization

of the efforts of a couple of familiar names to BFEE researchers worldwide, Hjalmar Schacht (who became the Nazi Minister of Economics) and former CIA Director Richard McGarrah Helms maternal grandfather Gates W. McGarrah, who was the first President of the BIS (a consortium of the world's central banks including the Federal Reserve).
http://www.bis.org/about/origins.htm

http://www.bis.org/about/formerboard.htm

(Btw, BFEE associate Donald Kohn is on the move today with BIS-and our old neocon traitor Paul Wolfowitz is still head of the World Bank...)

The familiar story of profiting with the enemy and undermining our nation by these BFEE dynasties continued with Richard McGarrah Helms in many ways. As a young UPI reporter he came to public notice with an exclusive interview with Adolph Hitler. He was "recruited" into the OSS by William Donovan.
He rose within the CIA, he was involved with many of the extreme programs like mind control (approved by Dulles in April 1954) domestic "surveillance", assassination, drugs and arms, etc.

His niece, Lali Helms, was the public relations person forthe Taliban prior to 9/11.

It's important to keep the light on in the darkness of today's BFEE dominated world-which you and I and others continue to do.

The original "intelligence failure" was the clandestine inclusion of all the Nazis, criminals, etc. into the foundation of our national security community, our military and the defense industry.

[Octafish]

115. Then there's the Pacific Theater of Plunder...

May 27-29, 2006

The Pentagon and the Japanese Mengele

The Abominable Dr. Ishii

By CHRISTOPHER REED

Editors' note: Under the overall codename Project Paperclip US intelligence agencies made similarly diligent efforts to acquire the research records of Nazi doctors working in the death camps. They also brought over several of the Nazi medical experimenters and set them to work in US military research centers such as Ft. Detrick. The Nazi research was quickly put into play in the field. In 1950, the CIA's Office of Security, headed at the time by Sheffield Edwards, opened a project called Bluebird whose object was to get an individual "to do our bidding against his will and even against such fundamental laws of nature as self-preservation." The first Bluebird operations were conducted in Japan in October 1950 and were reportedly witnessed by Richard Helms, who would later run the Agency. Twenty-five North Korean POWs were given alternating doses of depressants and stimulants. The POWs were shot up with barbitutes, putting them to sleep, then abruptly awoken with injections of amphetamines, put under hypnosis, then interrogated. The operation was, of course, in total contravention of international protocols. The Bluebird interrogations continued through the duration of the Korean War. This history is laid out in detail in our book Whiteout: the CIA, Drugs and the Press, Verso, available from our office. AC/JSC.

Everyone has heard of Auschwitz, but what about Pingfan? This Japanese germ warfare headquarters and laboratory in Manchuria, northern China, did not hold as many victims, but atrocities committed there were physically worse than in the Nazi concentration camp, and lasted much longer.

Many people know of Dr. Josef Mengele, the Nazi SS "Angel of Death" and a physician (though not chief medical officer) at Auschwitz from 1943-45. There, he deliberately infected prisoners with deadly diseases and conducted fatal surgeries, often without anesthetic. He escaped and lived in South America undiscovered until after his death at 68 in 1979 in Brazil.

But who has heard of Dr. Shiro Ishii? He was the chief of Japan's well financed, scientifically coordinated and government approved biological warfare program from 1932-45. Ishii rose to general and supervised deliberate infection of thousands of captives with deadly diseases. He also conducted grotesque surgeries, but the unique medical specialty of Ishii and his surgical team were dissections, without anesthetic, on an estimated 3,000 live, conscious humans. In 1959, Ishii, a wealthy man, died peacefully at home in Japan at the age of 67.

SNIP...

On my desk are two documents previously marked Top Secret and dated July 1947. They show not only full U.S. participation in allowing the Japanese medical torturers who escaped to Tokyo to go free in exchange for information, but that the Pentagon actually paid them. As General Charles Willoughby, chief of U.S. Military Intelligence (known as G-2) gleefully noted to his headquarters, these pay-offs were "a mere pittance... netting the U.S. the fruit of 20 years' laboratory tests and research" in this "critically serious form of warfare."

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/reed05272006.html

Gee. This secret stuff a certain, um, class of, um, citizen, discovers and gets involved in can lead to some truly big returns.

Dark side of the Moon

by Bob Fitrakis
(Reprinted with the permission of Columbus Alive. This article originally appeared in the 24 February 2000 issue of that newspaper.)

After Texas Governor George W. Bush faltered in New Hampshire, a spooky and shadowy right-wing network came to his rescue in South Carolina, turning a certain primary defeat into a double-digit victory. As the Washington Post noted, “An array of conservative groups have come in to reinforce Bush’s message with phone banks, radio ads and mailings of their own.”

Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen asserted that “Bush embraces the far-right fringe.” From the racists who prohibit interracial dating at Bob Jones University to the moronic Confederate flag wavers, from Rush Limbaugh to Pat Robertson, and from the most extreme elements of the right-to-life movement to the Moonies, the Bush family network prevailed. NBC’s Tim Russert pointed out that George W. was now “indebted to Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell” and the Christian right.

SNIP...

To understand the role the Moonies play in U.S. politics, one must start with Ryoichi Sasakawa, identified in a 1992 PBS Frontline investigative report as a key money source for Reverend Moon’s far-flung world empire. In the 1930s, Sasakawa was one of Japan’s leading fascists. He organized a private army of 1,500 men equipped with 20 warplanes. His men dressed in black shirts to emulate Mussolini. Sasakawa was an “uncondemned Class A war criminal” suddenly freed with another accused war criminal - Yoshio Kodama, a leading figure in Japan’s organized crime syndicate Yakuza - in 1948.

In January 1995, Japan’s KYODO news-service uncovered documents establishing that the one-time fascist war criminal suspect was earmarked as an informer by U.S. military intelligence two months prior to his unexplained release: Declassified documents link Kodama’s release to the CIA. During World War II, the Kodama Agency, according to U.S. Army counterintelligence records, consisted of “systematically looting China of its raw materials” and dealing in heroin, guns, tungsten, gold, industrial diamonds and radium.
Both Sasakawa and Kodama’s CIA ties are a reoccurring theme in their relationship with the Moonies. In 1977, Congressman Donald Fraser launched an investigation into Moon’s background. The 444-page Congressional report alleged Moonie involvement with bribery, bank fraud, illegal kickbacks and arms sales. The report revealed that Moon’s 20,000-member Unification Church was a creation of Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA) Director Kim Chong Phil as a political tool to influence U.S. foreign policy. The U.S. CIA was the agency primarily responsible for the founding of the KCIA.

CONTINUED...

http://www.americanatheist.org/spr00/T2/fitrakis.html

So, guess who gets to be in on the news of the biggest infusion of cash into Wall Street in a long time?

Yamashita's Gold - Eyewitness
Reveals Truth Of Fabulous
WWII Hidden Treasure

By Sterling and Peggy Seagrave
South China Morning Post
9-3-1

In the closing months of World War II, in the Philippines, several of Japan's highest ranking imperial princes hid tons of looted gold bullion and other stolen treasure in caves and tunnels, to recover later. This was the wealth of 12 Asian countries, accumulated over thousands of years.
 
Expert teams accompanying Japan's armed forces had systematically emptied treasuries, banks, factories, private homes, pawn shops, art galleries, and stripped ordinary people, while Japan's top gangsters looted Asia's underworld and its black economy.

SNIP...
 
In the final stages of work on a biography of Japan's imperial family titled The Yamato Dynasty, we were told that in October 1945, American intelligence agents learned where some of the Japanese loot was hidden in the Philippines, and quietly recovered billions of dollars worth of gold bullion, platinum, and loose diamonds. This information, if true, revealed the existence of an extraordinary state secret, something the United States Government kept from its own citizens for more than half a century. There was no time to include this in the biography. It had to be investigated separately. Here is some of what we have since learned:
  
After surrendering on September 2, 1945, General Yamashita was charged with war crimes over gruesome atrocities committed in Manila under the order of an admiral, while Yamashita had ordered withdrawing troops to leave the city unharmed. During his trial, there was no mention of plundered treasure, or of looting during the war.
 
But we now know there was a hidden agenda. Because it was not possible to torture General Yamashita physically without this becoming evident to his lawyers, members of his staff were tortured. His driver, Major Kojima Kashii, was given special attention. In charge of the torture of Major Kojima was a Filipino-American intelligence officer named Severino Garcia Santa Romana, whose friends called him Santy. He wanted the major to reveal each place where he had taken Yamashita, where bullion and other treasure was hidden for recovery after the war. Supervising Santy during the torture was Captain Edward Lansdale, later one of America's best known ''Cold Warriors''.

CONTINUED...

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:z9-OdmyT98kJ:www.rense.com/general13/treasure.htm+Sterling+and+Peggy+Seagrave+gold&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&ie=UTF-8

Small world. And very, very bad.

SHINE 'EM ON
HARVESTED MOONIE

[lonestarnot]

42. Goddamn Octafish! I thought you couldn't get better!

[lonestarnot]

50. kick

[Octafish]

70. Bush accomplished the ''Greatest Strategic Disaster in U.S. History''...

Here's something the NAZIs couldn't do:

The Greatest Strategic Disaster in US History

by Paul Craig Roberts
October 3, 2005

EXCERPT...

Every American should be scared to death that a secretary of state can make such an ignorant and propagandistic statement.

Many Middle Eastern countries are ruled by puppets on the American payroll. Even the Saudis are under American protection. If there is oppression in the Middle East, it is because U.S. puppets and protectorates are doing what the U.S. government wants, not what the people they rule want.

The Middle East is in despair because almost a century after the First World War freed Arabs from Turkish occupation, they still cannot get free of U.S. and British occupation. The reasons Osama bin Laden has a cause among Muslims are (1) U.S. military bases in the Middle East and (2) Israeli practices such as stealing the West Bank and herding Palestinians into ghettos.

What kind of fool believes that the way to bring democracy to a country is to invade, destroy cities and infrastructure, and kill and maim tens of thousands of civilians, while creating every possible animosity by aligning with some members of the society against the others?

Condi Rice's speech at Princeton has branded her the greatest fool ever to be appointed secretary of state. The same day that she declared, Mao-like, that democracy comes out of the barrel of a gun, Lt. Gen. William Odom, director of the National Security Agency during President Reagan's second term, a scholar with a distinguished career in military intelligence, declared Bush's invasion of Iraq to be the "greatest strategic disaster in United States history."

No one can impugn Gen. Odom's patriotism. When I wrote on April 1, 2003, that "the U.S. invasion of Iraq is a strategic blunder," the hate mail poured in from bloody-minded Bush supporters, who assured me that the war would be over in one week. Only a liberal pinko Bush-hating commie could fail to see that the war was won, they jeered.

CONTINUED...

http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=7472

Thanks for giving a damn, lonestarnot. You have no idea how much it means to me.

UNEDUCATABLE

[Swamp Rat]

71. I fight Nazis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1559986

[Octafish]

85. You certainly do, Swamp Rat, in this and any dimension.

The Ghost of Adolph Hitler

Nazi Influence in America

by John Stanton
Dissident Voice
October 21, 2003

Here it is 2003, and the ghost of the notorious Nazi Adolph Hitler haunts America. He’s in the White House in Washington, DC and the governor’s mansion in Sacramento, California. He roams the halls of the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. His Nazi minions Arthur Rudolph and Werner Von Braun provided the know-how to put American astronauts on the moon and nuclear warheads into space. Rudolph, according to reporter Linda Hunt, was guilty of war crimes in WWII. “In 1969, Americans cheered as our astronauts took their first steps onto the moon. The giant rocket that blasted them into space was Rudolph's crowning achievement as NASA's project director for Saturn V. Fifteen years later, Rudolph relinquished his U.S. citizenship and left the country rather than face Justice Department charges that he had committed war crimes while working in an underground factory that had used Dora Concentration Camp prisoners as slave labor.”

Americans should find it a bit unsettling that their presence on the moon and the space-based military dominance they enjoy was built, in good measure, on the backs of 6,000 human beings who would ultimately be executed by the Nazi SS in the Spring of 1945. According to Hunt, exactly 40 years after the liberation of Dora, in April 1985, the Alabama Space and Rocket Museum paid tribute to 40 Germans who stood surrounded by the press, in front of old V-2s and the Saturn V Rocket they helped build for the United States. There is no monument to the Dora Concentration Camp. Why? Americans do not wish to be reminded of what WWII French Resistance leader, and Dora prisoner, Jean Michel said about the day that U.S. astronauts first walked on the moon, "I could not watch the Apollo mission without remembering that that triumphant walk was made possible by our initiation to inconceivable horror."

Hitler’s influence is everywhere in America.

Nazi Know-How and the CIA

Hitler’s ghost occupies the hallowed ground of the US Central Intelligence Agency. General Reinhard Gehlen was Hitler’s top Soviet spy during WWII and was recruited by Allen Dulles, the first director of the CIA. According to Martin Lee, writing in the San Francisco Bay Guardian, Gehlen returned to West Germany in the summer of 1946 with a mandate to rebuild his espionage organization and resume spying on the East at the behest of American intelligence. That date is significant as it preceded the onset of the Cold War, which, according to standard U.S. historical accounts, did not begin until a year later, according to Lee. The early courtship of Gehlen by American intelligence suggests that Washington was in a Cold War mode sooner than most people realize. The Gehlen gambit also belies the prevalent Western notion that aggressive Soviet policies were primarily to blame for triggering the Cold War.

CONTINUED...

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Stanton_Hitlers-Ghost.htm

PSYCHO NAZI

[lonestarnot]

89. Dude, I love America, what can I say.

Can you do me a favor? Could you clarify your reference to UNEDUCATABLE? Love you Octafish! Thanks from the deepst of my esteem for you for educating the masses, me included.

[Cleita]

43. Kick

Octafish rocks again. :headbang:

[Octafish]

87. Our Leader Über Alles: From Conservatives to Brownshirts

Heyo, Cleita!

The author below is a real Republican, the kind who still believes in the Constitution and puts the nation ahead of party or self-interest:

Our Leader Über Alles

From Conservatives to Brownshirts

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
February 18 / 19, 2006

Last week's annual Conservative Political Action Conference signaled the transformation of American conservatism into brownshirtism. A former Justice Department official named Viet Dinh got a standing ovation when he told the CPAC audience that the rule of law mustn't get in the way of President Bush protecting Americans from Osama bin Laden.

Former Republican congressman Bob Barr, who led the House impeachment of President Bill Clinton, reminded the CPAC audience that our first loyalty is to the US Constitution, not to a leader. The question, Barr said, is not one of disloyalty to Bush, but whether America "will remain a nation subject to, and governed by, the rule of law or the whim of men."

The CPAC audience answered that they preferred to be governed by Bush. According to Dana Milbanks, a member of the CPAC audience named Richard Sorcinelli loudly booed Barr, declaring: "I can't believe I'm in a conservative hall listening to him say Bush is off course trying to defend the United States." A woman in the audience told Barr that the Constitution placed Bush above the law and above non-elected federal judges.

These statements gallop beyond the merely partisan. They express the sentiments of brownshirtism. Our leader uber alles.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02182006.html

Thanks for your Friendship, Cleita! It means the world to me.

This guy, means another world to me:

TOTAL ZERO

[WinkyDink]

46. No kidding. And Holtzman used the term "very bad" for THIS EVIL??

HOW did we get to speak in such PUERILE language?

Bushco (Nazis themselves, per Prescott) speak of "bad guys" who want to "hurt" us.
GROW UP, GOD**** it!

[Octafish]

95. Fascism by any other name ...

As you know, WinkyDink, words count when it comes to Truth.

Here's how Larry Pinkney puts things:

Fascism: An American reality

By Larry Pinkney
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Jul 6, 2006, 01:07

The American Heritage Dictionary defines the word fascism as "a philosophy or system of government that is marked by stringent social and economic control, a strong centralized government usually headed by a dictator, and often a policy of belligerent nationalism." Moreover, and most importantly, it also defines fascism clearly and succinctly as "oppressive or dictatorial control." There are those who will sarcastically say that the political/social situation in and with America is not "that bad," when in fact things are far, far worse.

Whether or not one chooses to define this increasingly all-encompassing suppression of people in America as authoritarian, totalitarian or fascist is a ridiculously moot point for the overwhelming majority of people who have lost or are losing their already limited freedoms, their livelihoods and their very lives to the organized repression of this hypocritical, cynically racist and genocidal American state apparatus. The organized and sustained political, economic, social and cultural repression being waged by the American state against its own citizens and persons globally is nothing short of fascism.

At this precarious period in history, with repression intensifying on all levels, quibbling about whether or not America is technically fascist amounts to intellectual masturbation. The fact is that the internal and external repressive policies of the United States of America have already destroyed -- and continue to decimate -- millions of people inside America and throughout the world. Especially is this true with respect to the vast majority of people of color in the ghettos, reservations and barrios of the U.S., as well as in Africa, Asia, Central and South America, the Caribbean and elsewhere.

Contrary to the well perpetuated myth, fascism is not limited to storm troopers blatantly goose-stepping down streets and alleyways, engaging in bloody search and destroy missions. Germany's fascism under Adolf Hitler differed from Italy's fascism under Benito Mussolini, but they were both fascist nation states. Fascism has different forms, all of which are equally deadly, all of which must be identified, seriously resisted and stopped.

Complacently insisting that the organized state repressive apparatus of, in and by the United States must not be defined as fascism is incredibly dangerous, especially at this point in history. It's a bit like quibbling with a person who is in the death throes of drowning that he is not actually drowning but merely suffocating! No matter how it is defined, the person is dying, and immediate action is needed to save his or her life!

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_962.shtml

CONTINUED...

Thank you for understanding. And thanks for standing up, WinkyDink.

For those needing simpler terminology:

NAZI NUTJOB

[Initech]

49. So can we finally resume comparing them to Hitler?

I've said that many times here - Bush's grandfather had BUSINESS TIES TO THE GERMAN NAZI PARTY. Never, ever, ever forget that!

The man is pure evil.

[lonestarnot]

51. I never stopped.

[Octafish]

100. The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism

Just when we think things couldn't get worse...



The Very Religious John Ashcroft,
hard at work in summer of 2001.

The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism

by Chris Hedges
www.theocracywatch.org, Nov 15, 2004
(This is an article by Chris Hedges that no major publication will print.)

Dr. James Luther Adams, my ethics professor at Harvard Divinity School , told us that when we were his age, he was then close to 80, we would all be fighting the "Christian fascists."

The warning, given to me 25 years ago, came at the moment Pat Robertson and other radio and televangelists began speaking about a new political religion that would direct its efforts at taking control of all institutions, including mainstream denominations and the government. Its stated goal was to use the United States to create a global, Christian empire. It was hard, at the time, to take such fantastic rhetoric seriously, especially given the buffoonish quality of those who expounded it. But Adams warned us against the blindness caused by intellectual snobbery. The Nazis, he said, were not going to return with swastikas and brown shirts. Their ideological inheritors had found a mask for fascism in the pages of the Bible.

He was not a man to use the word fascist lightly. He was in Germany in 1935 and 1936 and worked with the underground anti-Nazi church, known as The Confessing Church, led by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Adams was eventually detained and interrogated by the Gestapo, who suggested he might want to consider returning to the United States . It was a suggestion he followed. He left on a night train with framed portraits of Adolph Hitler placed over the contents inside his suitcase to hide the rolls of home movie film he took of the so-called German Christian Church, which was pro-Nazi, and the few individuals who defied them, including the theologians Karl Barth and Albert Schweitzer. The ruse worked when the border police lifted the top of the suitcases, saw the portraits of the Fuhrer and closed them up again. I watched hours of the grainy black and white films as he narrated in his apartment in Cambridge .

He saw in the Christian Right, long before we did, disturbing similarities with the German Christian Church and the Nazi Party, similarities that he said would, in the event of prolonged social instability or a national crisis, see American fascists, under the guise of religion, rise to dismantle the open society. He despaired of liberals, who he said, as in Nazi Germany, mouthed silly platitudes about dialogue and inclusiveness that made them ineffectual and impotent. Liberals, he said, did not understand the power and allure of evil nor the cold reality of how the world worked. The current hand wringing by Democrats in the wake of the election, with many asking how they can reach out to a movement whose leaders brand them "demonic" and "satanic," would not have surprised Adams . Like Bonhoeffer, he did not believe that those who would fight effectively in coming times of turmoil, a fight that for him was an integral part of the Biblical message, would come from the church or the liberal, secular elite.

His critique of the prominent research universities, along with the media, was no less withering. These institutions, self-absorbed, compromised by their close relationship with government and corporations, given enough of the pie to be complacent, were unwilling to deal with the fundamental moral questions and inequities of the age. They had no stomach for a battle that might cost them their prestige and comfort. He told me that if the Nazis took over America "60 percent of the Harvard faculty would begin their lectures with the Nazi salute." This too was not an abstraction. He had watched academics at the University of Heidelberg , including the philosopher Martin Heidegger, raise their arms stiffly to students before class.

Two decades later, even in the face of the growing reach of the Christian Right, his prediction seems apocalyptic. And yet the powerbrokers in the Christian Right have moved from the fringes of society to the floor of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Christian fundamentalists now hold a majority of seats in 36 percent of all Republican Party state committees, or 18 of 50 states, along with large minorities in 81 percent of the rest of the states. Forty-five Senators and 186 members of the House of Representatives earned between an 80 to100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential Christian Right advocacy groups - The Christian Coalition, Eagle Forum, and Family Resource Council. Tom Coburn, the new senator from Oklahoma , has included in his campaign to end abortion a call to impose the death penalty on doctors that carry out abortions once the ban goes into place. Another new senator, John Thune, believes in Creationism. Jim DeMint, the new senator elected from South Carolina , wants to ban single mothers from teaching in schools. The Election Day exit polls found that 22 percent of voters identified themselves as evangelical Christians and Bush won 77 percent of their vote. The polls found that a plurality of voters said that the most important issue in the campaign had been "moral values."

CONTINUED...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/ChristianRight_AmerFascism.html

Thanks for understanding, EOO. Keep calling them what they are. It's what hurts them the most -- the Truth.

NATURAL BORN
LIAR, THIEF,
MASS MURDERER

[moondust]

53. Openinig Nazi archives.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-28-nazi-archives_x.htm

German Cabinet OKs opening of Nazi archive

Posted 6/28/2006 1:48 PM ET
BERLIN (AP) — Germany's Cabinet agreed Wednesday to open to researchers an archive of millions of Nazi files that describe the mechanics of the Holocaust. The accord will likely be signed July 26 in Berlin, Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Jaeger said.

Germany's move follows an agreement to unlock the archive reached last month by the 11-nation governing body of the International Tracing Service, the arm of the International Committee of the Red Cross that oversees the archive in the German town of Bad Arolsen.

~snip~

Under current rules, information is given out only to former victims. A third party can only access the archives with the express, written consent of a former victim.

It remains unclear when researchers will be able to access the archives.

Once the agreement is signed, all 11 signatory nations have to ratify it.

Will Bush/Republicans allow it without prior censorship? This could get interesting.

[lonestarnot]

54. Damn even the thread has improved!

[lonestarnot]

58. Know your evil fucking bushitlers here. Know them, your country is

depending on you.

[Octafish]

88. Know your BFEE archive...

Their criminality, gangsterism and out-and-out treason is so great, we need a scorecard.



Toward that goal:

Know your BFEE Log


Know your BFEE: At every turn, JFK was opposed by War Party

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1366764


Know your BFEE: Lies Are the Currency of Their Realm

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1170858


Know your BFEE: Cheney & Halliburton Sold Iran Nuke Technology

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=928662


Know your BFEE: The Stench of Moussaoui Permeates the Octopus

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=757860&mesg_id=757860


Know your BFEE: Moussaoui Must Die for Bush and 'His' Government

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=602016



Know your BFEE: Alito is just another word for Mussolini

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=266685


What the heck, this belongs there, too:

BFEE Turd Daniel Pipes tied to DANISH CARTOONS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=417774


Know your BFEE: Like a NAZI

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=133897


Know your BFEE: The China-Bush Axis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5333644


Know your BFEE: Bush and bin Laden Clans Together in Bed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5280903


Know your BFEE: Libby Is the First Big BFEE Turd to Go Down

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5233814


Know your BFEE: WHIG (White House Iraq Group) made phony case for Iraq War

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5077403


Know your BFEE: The Secret Government

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5027094


Know your BFEE: Reinhard Gehlen

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4863411&mesg_id=4863411


Know your BFEE: Poppy Bush Armed Saddam

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4813493


Know your BFEE: Killer Businessmen who put Power and Profit before Country

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4401300


Know your BFEE: Nixon Threatened to Nuke Vietnam

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3953519


Know your BFEE: Corrupt Craftsmen Hoover and Dulles

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3908104


Know your BFEE: Poppy’s CIA Made Saddam Into the Butcher of Baghdad

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3853409


Know your BFEE: Hitler’s Bankers Shaped Vietnam War

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3832033&mesg_id=3832033&page=


Know your BFEE: Merchants of Death

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3743890


Know your BFEE: R. James Woolsey, Turd of War

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3699042


Know your BFEE: Sneering Dick Cheney, Superturd-Superrich-Supercrook

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3627538


Know your BFEE: Bush Lied America into War

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3601654


Know your BFEE: James R Bath – Bush – bin Laden Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3571293&mesg_id=3571293&page=


Know your BFEE: War Profiteers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3493251


Know your BFEE: Dead Men Tell No Tales

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5280903


Know your BFEE: Rev. Sun Myung Moon OWNS Poppy Bush

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3355939


Know your BFEE: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2788428


Know your BFEE: American Children Used in Radiation Experiments

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3312956


Know your BFEE: Eugenics and the NAZIs - The California Connection

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2511192


Know your BFEE: The Barreling Bushes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2472759


Know your BFEE: A Crime Line of Treason

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2748315


Know your BFEE: How Smirko Got Rich

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2529964


Know your BFEE: George W Bush did "community service" at Project P.U.L.L.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2956067


Know your BFEE: Vote Suppressor Supreme, the Turd Bill Rehnquist

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2414083


Know your BFEE: George W Bush Knew 9-11 Was Coming and Did NOTHING!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2404049


Know your BFEE: Oliver North, Drug Dealer

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2396787


Know your BFEE: Pat Robertson Incorporated a Gold Mine with a Terrorist

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2397004

Thanks for giving a damn, lonestarnot! Thanks also for your Friendship!

[SoCalDem]

59. I have long felt that GHWBush joined up to salvage Poppa's

reputation..or what was left of it.. I mean how COULD Prescott be called a Nazi sympathizer when his own YOUNG son was flying planes in the war..?

of course the young GHWB apparently had a panic attack and ended up killing two crewmen in the process.. (the fire explanation was not borne out by people who saw his plane after he bailed out safely).. Odd that no one ever really talked about it..except of course CNN who shows FLYBOY every chance they get.. They never mention the connections that prescott had though..

[Karenina]

63. The failure of the American populace

to CONNECT THE DOTS... :SIGH:

[Octafish]

96. Poppy was exorcising ''demons.''

From an eyewitness:

George Bush Parachutes Again to Exorcise Demons of Past Betrayal

By Ted Sampley
March/April/May 1997

EXCERPT...

Bush's Betrayal

Chester Mierzejewski, an old war buddy of Bush, who said he was angered by the "false assertions" made by candidate Bush when describing the incident, gave a different account.

After 44 years of silence, Mierzejewski, who also was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, told the New York Post that Bush had abandoned his crew to death when there was another choice.

He said he was approximately 100 feet in front of Bush's plane as the turret gunner for Squadron Commander Douglas Melvin's plane, "so close he could see in the cockpit" of Bush's bomber. Mierzejewski's close wartime buddy was one of the two crew members in Bush's plane.

According to Mierzejewski, the squadron was in a tight-formation bombing raid against a Japanese radio installation on an island reported to be heavily fortified. He saw "a puff of smoke" come from Bush's plane which quickly disappeared and was certain only one man parachuted from the plane and that it was Bush, the pilot.

Mierzejewski said the Avenger torpedo bomber was engineered so that it could successfully crash land on water and that Bush doomed his own crew by bailing out and leaving the bomber out of control.

Other World War II veterans also expressed concern about Bush parachuting out of the aircraft. "He had a moral obligation to put that plane in the water in an emergency landing," Robert Flood, a former B-17 bombardier told the press. "He violated the primary rule for a captain of a multi-crew aircraft: The pilot never leaves the airplane with anybody in it."

CONTINUED...

http://www.usvetdsp.com/story46.htm

Thanks for remembering, SoCalDem. Even though he's a repuke, I am proud to report that I am friends with a man who was the pilot of a B-24 pilot. During the war, the plane was hit by flak over Germany. He stayed at the controls until everybody bailed out, giving two crewmen time to help a wounded colleague parachute out the open bomb-bay. My pilot friend survived a POW camp. His fellow prisoners hid the fact he was Jewish from the NAZIs. All of his crew survived the war. My friend is a great, great man.

A not-so-great "man"...

[nolabels]

66. I disagree with the premise

It's not "Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes", it is that Corporations couldn't win with their pet project, the Axis powers. So like all large Corporations do, they went with the back up plan of Saddling the US with the job of pointing the gun(s). We, the US, now do most of the dirty work involved in Corporate economic hegemony. We have been enslaved with the task of being the worlds corporate thug to be more exact. The Nazi's and all the rest of them were just bit players

[Octafish]

93. I agree with your premise.

Except that the corporations in the 1930s weren't the problem -- the wealthy elites who bankroll them were. And still are.

If anything, I'd like to add that the commie elite are just as bad as the capitalist elite are just as bad as the NAZI elite.

They all share one attribute: They think they are better than everybody else. That, to me, is un-democratic.

[mdmc]

73. k/r

[Octafish]

97. Press Gaggle on Auschwitz

Remember when Smirkelgruber and Pickles visitied Auschwitz?



The Little Turd from Crawford asked the guide if she believed what she said.

Press Gaggle on Auschwitz I and Auschwitz II-Birkenau

Ari Fleischer, White House Press Secretary

Krakow, Poland
May 31, 2003

EXCERPT...

MR. FLEISCHER: Oh, that probably extended some 30, 40 feet behind glass, and you just see hair. Women's hair. The guide talked about in the next room that Auschwitz was also a site of plunder because as the Jews were rounded up and sent there, they brought their belongings with them so they had their suitcases. They didn't know they were going to their death, so they carried their life's possessions with them, which was then quickly plundered, the guide explained.

The President saw the Jewish prayer shawls that were hanging. And then another deeply moving part, he saw artificial limbs, actual artificial limbs, prosthesis, legs that were there and which she explained to the President, even these were plundered after people were killed, and then used back in Germany.

The President would say things such as "Powerful." I just wrote down as I listened to him -- "powerful." When he saw the suitcases, he said, "So sad." And then at one point when he went by another display where there were teeny little shoes, the President looked at it and said, "All the little baby shoes." He told the guide, "You've done a good job recording history."

The President talked about the current context of it, how many people come each year. He asked, where do they come from. He asked, "Do people challenge the accuracy of what you present?"] And one cell --

Q: And what did the guide say?

MR. FLEISCHER: She explained where people come from. They come from all over, she said. A lot come from Poland, from the United States, from Israel, from Germany.

Q: Did she answer his question, do people challenge --

MR. FLEISCHER: I didn't get it. If she did, I don't remember, I didn't write it down.

Then he saw some cells where the prisoners were kept. Now, these are not -- at Birkenau he saw the bunk cells. But this were actual prison cells with doors that swing open and bars, very, very small rooms. And in one small room, the guide explained, there were 39 people in a small cell with a teeny, teeny little bit of air that came in from a window up top. And this cell was very small. And she said to him, on the doors you can see signs on how to scratch the door to survive. And you could see it -- on the door they would just scratch to get air into the room. They tried to claw their way through a very thick wooden door.

CONTINUED...

http://www.state.gov/p/eur/rls/rm/2003/21131.htm

Gee, mdmc: It turns out the Coward from Crawford is one of them "historical review" revisionist types.

Then again, we always knew him to be a...

NAZI NUTJOB

[oasis]

79. Independence Day Kick.

[Octafish]

98. The CIA, the Bush Gang and the Killing of Frank Olson

It is no joke to call the BFEE regime "NAZI."

The Secret Sharers

The CIA, the Bush Gang and the Killing of Frank Olson

by Chris Floyd
Counterpunch August 28, 2002

There is a thread running through modern American history, a thin red cord that weaves in and out of the shifting facades of reason and respectability that mask the brutal machinery of power. At certain rare moments the thread flashes into sight, emerging from the chaotic jumble of unbearable truth and life-giving illusion that makes up human reality. It appears, bears witness, then vanishes again, forgotten behind the next facade.

It's a thread that runs from horrified young intelligence operatives stumbling into the death camps of Nazi Germany to hardened agents running assassination programs in the jungles of Vietnam to august men of state building a shadow government with secret decrees authorizing tyranny, murder, torture and deceit. It's a thread of moral corruption, corruption by an idea, a temptation, a perversion of reason, the whisper of evil that says: "The end justifies the means."

That thread fetched up briefly again earlier this month, then was buried, literally, in a Maryland grave. The family of Frank Olson laid his exhumed remains to rest, closing the book on their half-century of struggle to find out why he died so violently in the hands of the government he had served--and whose deepest secrets he had guarded.

Frank's son, Eric, believes he knows the answer now: his father was murdered to keep the thread from sight, to "protect" the American people from the knowledge that their own government had taken up and extended Nazi experiments on mind control, psychological torture and chemical warfare--and that it was conducting these experiments as the Nazis did, on unwilling subjects, on captives and "expendables," even to the point of "termination."

Frank Olson was a CIA scientist at Fort Detrick, Maryland, the Army's biological weapons research center. Ostensibly he was a civilian employee of the Army; his family didn't know his true employer. Olson worked on methods of spreading anthrax and other toxins; some of his colleagues were involved in mind control drugs and torture techniques. But his life within the charmed circle of the American intelligence elite would unravel with dizzying speed in just a few months in 1953.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd0828.html

Killing an innocent man, a government scientist, a veteran of the armed forces -- a good man -- to silence him is what the NAZIs did

Our government -- certain elements of our government -- has done the same.

This is personal to us, oasis. One of Mr. Olson's kids is a DUer.

[EFerrari]

80. Lovely people, the Dulles family.

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

90. Aren't they though?

:puke:

[Octafish]

102. Dulles Brothers are FABULOUS, except to Smedley Butler...

... and all who know how he felt about the Dulles Brothers, Brown Brothers (Harriman) and the Wall Street elite.



"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses…. I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."

-- Maj. General Smedley Butler, U.S.M.C.

[McCamy Taylor]

81. People like the Bushes tried to over throw FDR. FDR is why we fought

against the Nazis instead of with them during WWII. If the military coup had worked, I have no doubt that the plan was to make the US a member of the Axis.

By the time FDR was gone, it was too late for Nazi Germany, so the Bushes and Melons and Scaiffes and all their breed had to start it all over here. But unfortunately, Americans dont goosestep, for reasons which I have spelled out before, so their efforts to recreate the Third Reich are doomed to go the way of New Coke.

Sometimes, being a capitalist society can be a good thing.

[TheUnspeakable]

83. Jonathan Alter has written a new book about FDR....

It sounds really good-he single-handedly saved democracy-and that's why they hate him.

(snip)And yet, despite some missteps, he succeeds in doing so, largely because he has grasped in ways others have not Roosevelt's single greatest contribution, which was not winning the war or even defining modern liberalism but resuscitating American democracy after the gravest winter of its distress.

I use the word "winter" not just metaphorically but literally in reference to the months from December 1932 through March 1933, when the American economy lay in ruins. Stock values had declined 75 percent from their 1929 levels. Unemployment had soared to 25 percent. In two-thirds of the states, all the banks had closed their doors. Hunger stalked the streets, as did soldiers in Washington, D.C., whose commanders worried about destitution turning into anarchy and revolution.

(snip)At no other moment of American history did mainstream opinion look so kindly on dictatorship. Many admired Italy's Benito Mussolini and other strongmen who had dispensed with the so-called weak processes of deliberative democracy and had gotten their nations moving again through discipline, action and aggression. Respected columnist Walter Lippmann wrote Roosevelt in early 1933:

"The situation is critical, Franklin. You may have no alternative but to assume dictatorial powers."
<http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/booksmags/chi-0606100166jun11,1,5770607.story>

[Octafish]

103. War Is STILL a Racket.

Here's the part of capitalism I don't like: The people with really big money use it to make more, as profitably and quickly as possible.

The best way to do that is the old-fashioned way. War.

War Is Still A Racket

by Ed Rippy

www.globalresearch.ca 25 August 2003

September 11 2001 — we hear over and over — changed everything. In the "War On Terrorism," says President Bush, anyone who isn’t with "us" is with the terrorists. Afghanistan and Iraq are now US clients or protectorates. But a deeper look shows that except for the details and the players, nothing has changed at all.

In the early 1930s Major General Smedley Butler, retired from thirty-three years in the US Marine Corps, had a fit of realization and then a fit of honesty. He began making speeches and published a book, all telling a fundamental, ugly, and timeless truth: War Is A Racket.1 Seventy years later, The Racket is going stronger than ever. It is not so much a conspiracy as a combination political philosophy and business model.

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in," confessed Butler. The National City Bank’s descendent, Citigroup, is now the biggest bank in the world2 — and the eleventh biggest corporation — and collects revenues in over a hundred "decent places" including Angola, Vietnam, Panama, Saudi Arabia, and Colombia3 — all of which (like most of the world) have had Butler's successors on the scene to keep them "decent."

"I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909–1912," Butler relates, and within years Brown Brothers, by then merged with the Harriman Co., helped pay Hitler’s Wehrmacht to "purify" Europe. Prescott Bush, later a US Senator and then both father and grandfather of US Presidents, ran the New York office of this piece of The Racket.4

"In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested." Later on, the Chinese "molested" Standard Oil, but now they are finding their place in The Racket: the Chinese Academy of Sciences owns part of a company which is in a consortium which has bought the manufacturer of critical parts for US "precision" weapons — and is relocating the factory to China.5

The Racket works in many ways. First it funnels money from taxpayers and consumers to banks and big business. Butler gives some examples from World War I (the numbers have been adjusted for inflation using the US Bureau of Labor Statistics calculator):6

"Take our friends the du Ponts, the powder people . . . . How did they do in the war?. . . Eight hundred and twelve million dollars a year profit we find! Nearly ten times that of normal times. . . .

" 1910–1914 yearly earnings averaged $84,000,000. . . . Then came the war. . . . heir 1914–1918 average was $686,000,000 a year!. . .

"Or, let’s take United States Steel. The normal earnings during the five-year period prior to the war were $1,470,000,000 a year. Not bad. Then along came the war and up went the profits. The average yearly profit for the period 1914–1918 was $3,360,000,000. Not bad."

But "If anyone had the cream of the profits it was the bankers. Being partnerships rather than incorporated organizations, they do not have to report to stockholders. . . . those little secrets never become public. . . ."

FASCISM AND THE RACKET

Powerful Racketeers from US business, political, and military circles have wanted a global fascist order for a long time. (For example, in the mid-1930s, vice-president of General Motors Graeme K. Howard wrote a book titled America and a New World Order, which described the glories of an international fascist regime led by the US.) IBM, ITT, Standard Oil of New Jersey, Ford, General Motors, The Chase Bank, the National City Bank of New York (now Citibank/Citigroup), and other US businesses and banks funded Hitler before and during World War II.7 (As we noted above, Prescott Bush, G. W. Bush’s grandfather, funneled money to the Nazis from New York.8) They also supplied trucks, oil, aircraft engines, communications equipment, transportation, and propaganda to the fascist powers. Allen Dulles and John Foster Dulles, who later became head of the CIA and Secretary of State respectively, were heavily involved in this collaboration. Some of these fascists actually plotted a military coup against President Roosevelt, but it was discovered.9 After the war, the US fascists saw to it that most of the Nazi industrialists — and their capital equipment — remained in place. (The British foreign policy elite, led by the "Round Table" founded by Cecil Rhodes, had secretly wanted to give Nazi Germany enough of Europe to make it a strong bulwark against Communism, but wanted to avoid war.10)

The Office of Naval Intelligence recruited the Mafia to control the New York waterfront and help plan the invasion of Italy. The US military also installed Mafia chiefs as mayors of many towns and cities in Italy (they had set them up as an occupation force to release US troops for the European theater of war). Under Lucky Luciano, the Mafia rebuilt its heroin trade, expanding into Marseille (we shall revisit this in a later section). The Mafia also guarded against Socialist and Communist resurgence, a great aid to US foreign policy. King Ibn Saud (of Saudi Arabia) had supported Hitler; right after the war FDR cut a deal with him (and some other Arab heads of state). The CIA, which adopted hundreds of Nazi spies, scientists, and military officers, set up a fascist network in the Middle East to assure control of oil supplies and to counter Soviet influence. It also brought many Nazis to the US and to South America.

One of the Nazis US Racketeers spirited away to South America was Klaus Barbie. Known as "The Butcher of Lyons," he helped set up the infamous "School of the Americas," a training center for torture and repression, for the US army in the Panama Canal Zone.11 (The school later moved to Fort Benning, GA, and has changed its name to the "Western Hemispheric Institute for Security Co-operation.") Barbie’s mercenaries, wearing Swastika armbands, carried out the bloody "Cocaine Coup" of 1980 — the first time in history that an entire government had been bought by drug dealers, according to a State Dept. diplomat. This was part of a regional plan of the US military — involving six South American governments — to rid the continent of "leftists."12

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/RIP308B.html

[AntiFascist]

117. Magnificent thread, Octafish!

I used to go mountain biking around an old abandoned colony located in the Santa Monica mountains just above the LA basin. Perhaps someone else knows about this place? I was told that it was created by Nazi sympathizers prior to or during WWII and the thinking was that when Hitler attacked America, they would hide out there and wait for the Nazi takeover.

This was not some small, ragtag place built by eccentrics. It was a well-planned, paved and gated community with its own water system and a power generator. Many of the buildings, as I recall, were reinforced concrete. If this story is true, then obviously there was quite a bit of power and influence behind the pro-Nazi movement, even in California.

[leftofthedial]

86. Reinhard Gehlen

Leo Strauss

strange bedfellows in the neocon genesis

[burythehatchet]

92. And why is this scandal is hidden in plain sight?

:shrug:

Thanks Octafish.

[leftofthedial]

94. why? because our gutless, accomplice media

is the progeny of Joseph Goebells.

[Karenina]

99. Kick!

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

104. Kick.

[Octafish]

116. PAPERCLIP NAZIs Performed Human Experimentation in the U.S.A.

This is the stuff that makes grown men cry. For their fellow humans. For their country.

Project Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Who Performed Human Experimentation in the U. S.

http://www.gpc.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.html

You're welcome, burythehatchet! Thank you for giving a damn and working to end the reign of the monsters.

"MORON'S BETTER
THAN MONSTER,
RIGHT?"

[bobthedrummer]

105. A related thread about BCCI-they handled a lot of BFEE "business"

Especially with the UAE (lots of Nazi support there during and after WWII)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x490176

[Octafish]

106. The Swastika and the Crescent and BCCI and CAPCOM

Money is money, even when in the form of natural resources. Like hydrocarbons.

The Swastika and the Crescent

Muslim and Neo-Nazi extremists unite

By Martin A. Lee

As Germany’s defeat loomed during the final months of World War II, Adolf Hitler increasingly lapsed into delusional fits of fantasy. Albert Speer, in his prison writings, recounts an episode in which a maniacal Hitler "pictured for himself and for us the destruction of New York in a hurricane of fire." The Nazi fuehrer described skyscrapers turning into "gigantic burning torches, collapsing upon one another, the glow of the exploding city illuminating the dark sky."

An approximation of Hitler’s hellish vision came true on Sept. 11. But it was not Nazis or even neo-Nazis who carried out the attack - the deadliest terror strike in history allegedly came at the hands of foreign Muslim extremists.


Ahmed Huber: Neo-Nazi, Islamic convert

Still, in the aftermath of the slaughter, white supremacists in America and Europe applauded the suicide attacks and praised Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the massacre. An official of America’s premier neo-Nazi group, the National Alliance, said he wished his own members had "half as much testicular fortitude." Neo-fascist youth in France celebrated the event that evening with champagne at the headquarters of the extreme right Front National. German neo-Nazis, some wearing chequered Palestinian headscarves, rejoiced at street demonstrations while burning an American flag. Jan Kopal, head of the Czech National Social Bloc, declared at a rally in Prague that bin Laden was "an example for our children." Horst Mahler, a former left-wing terrorist and prominent member of the neo-Nazi National Democratic Party (NPD) in Germany, proclaimed his solidarity with the terrorists and said America had gotten what it deserved.

What’s going on here? For decades, American extremists have lumped Arabs in with dark-skinned "mud people." In Europe, neo-Nazis have been implicated in countless xenophobic attacks on Arabs, Turks and other Muslims.

The peculiar bond between white nationalist groups and certain Muslim extremists derives in part from a shared set of enemies: Jews, the United States, race-mixing, ethnic diversity. It is also very much a function of the shared belief that they must shield their own peoples from the corrupting influence of foreign cultures. Both sets of groups also have a penchant for far-flung conspiracy theories that caricature Jewish power.

But there is more. Even before World War II, Western fascists began to forge ideological and operational ties to Islamic extremists. Over the years, these contacts between Nazis and Muslim nationalists developed into dangerous networks that have been implicated in a number of bloody terrorist attacks in Europe and the Middle East. Wealthy Arab regimes have financed extremists in Europe and the United States, just as Western neo-Nazis have helped to build Holocaust denial machinery in the Arab world. Just last year, a meeting sponsored by a US Holocaust denial group brought together Arab and Western extremists in Jordan. And after the Sept. 11 attacks, a spate of articles by American neo-Nazis and white supremacists appeared in Islamic publications and Web sites.

CONTINUED...

http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2002/275/essay275.html

Of course, that's not to say, there is no room for the other side of the triangle to talk.

The nice man Adnan Khashoggi pops up as middleman between MOSSAD and BCCI.

Saudi Entrepeneur Adnan Khashoggi Linked to 911 Terrorists

(Part 1-7)

By Alex Constantine

EXCERPT...

But the Saudi Sheik's thieving bonds with Khashoggi and the CIA were forged decades earlier, with the incorporation of Barrick. The company's seed investors were Saudis with Agency ties, including Shiek Kamal Adham, Adnan Khashoggi, and Prince Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz (a major investor in Barrick, code-named "Tumbleweed" by his CIA contacts).7 By 1978, Adham was worth roughly $134 million.

It was but two years earlier that the son of Prescott Bush, a well-heeled CIA director, struck up an alliance with Saudi Arabia and Iran under the Shah. George H.W. Bush's left-hand man at Langley was Kamal Adham. After leaving the CIA in January, 1977, Bush was appointed to the executive committee chair of First International Bancshares (FIB), the largest bank in the District of Columbia. (In the 1980s, the Shiek and Abdul Khalil ((Adham's successor as Saudi intelligence director)), then officers of BCCI, were implicated in a hostile bid for FIB, by this time transmorgrified into a dummy front for its scandal-infested parent, BCCI.)

Raymond Close, another revolving-door, covert dervish, CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, took arms from the Saudis and gave them to Pakistan, and in '70s left the Agency and went to work for BCCI director Kamal Adham.

Majority shares in Capcom, a BCCI susidiary, were held by Saudi spooks Adham and Khalil. Capcom sidelines included money laundering and drug trafficking.8 Adham was eventually prosecuted for fraud in the BCCI case and paid a $100 million fine.

Oryx, the demonic corporate brat of Khashoggi and Adham, has recently been linked by investigative reporter Daniel Hopsicker (Welcome to Terrorland) to Wallace Hilliard, proprietor of Huffman Aviation in Florida, where Mohammed Atta's suicide cult trained in aero-terrorism.

CONTINUED...

http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/khashoggi-911.html

ARBUSTO'S
SUB-ZERO

[Swamp Rat]

107. I thought the GOP was America’s premier neo-Nazi group?

[bobthedrummer]

108. Truly an unholy alliance. Khashoggi, Chalabi, Cheney, Rumsfeld

the Bushes, elements of the CIA, MOSSAD, and other intelligence communitites adhering to Nazi dominated goals for various "reasons"-all of them evil.

[bobthedrummer]

112. kick.

[Octafish]

113. The CIA's Original Sin

Martin A. Lee's pegged these turds:

The CIAs original sin

The CIA's Original Sin

By Martin A. Lee, deleted. Posted April 26, 2000.

For U.S. policy-makers the 50th anniversary of the founding of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on September 18th provides yet another opportunity for self-righteous, congratulatory proclamations about "winning the cold war." But the American public would be better served if U.S. officials marked this occasion by owning up to the CIA's original sin, which dates back to the spy agency's earliest days: its covert use of a Nazi spy network stuffed to the brim with war criminals. Tools

SNIP...

Among those who bit the bait was future CIA director Allen Dulles, who became Gehlen's biggest postwar booster among American policy wonks. With a mandate to continue information-gathering in the East just as he had been doing before, Gehlen returned to Germany in 1946 and re-established his spy organization at the behest of American intelligence. Initially under U.S. army supervision, the Gehlen "Org," as it was called, proceeded to enlist thousands of Gestapo, Wehrmacht, and SS veterans -- despite his solemn promise to U.S. officials that he would not employ hard-core Nazis.

Even the vilest of the vile -- the senior bureaucrats who ran the central administrative apparatus of the Holocaust -- were welcome in the Org. Alois Brunner (Adolf Eichmann's deputy) and Klaus Barbie, the notorious wartime Butcher of Lyon, were among those who did double duty for Gehlen and U.S. intelligence. Through Gehlen, the CIA also had access to former leaders of virtually every Nazi puppet government from the Baltics to the Black Sea, as well as an assortment of Waffen SS fanatics who eagerly joined the American-led campaign to "liberate" their native lands. "It seems," the Frankfurter Rundschau editorialized, "that in the Gehlen headquarters one SS man paved the way for the next and Himmler's elite were having happy reunion ceremonies."

American officials knew that many of the people they were subsidizing had committed horrible crimes against humanity, but atrocities were overlooked as the anti-Communist crusade acquired its own momentum. "It was a visceral business of using any bastard as long as he was anti-Communist," explained Harry Rostizke, ex-head of CIA operations in the Soviet Union. "The eagerness of enlist collaborators meant that you didn't look at their credentials too closely."

SNIP...

At one point, for example, Gehlen succeeded in convincing General Lucius Clay, military governor of the U.S. zone of occupation in Germany, that a major Soviet war mobilization had begun in Eastern Europe. This prompted Clay to dash of a frantic, top-secret telegram to Washington in March 1948, warning that war "may come with dramatic suddenness."

CONTINUED...

http://www.alternet.org/story/4867/

It's no wonder the United States has gone broke financing the NAZIs and the War Party.

NAZIs are
VERY, VERY
CONSERVATIVE

[Octafish]

114. Nuremberg Prosecutor: 'Bush qualifies for prosecution for illegal war.'

Invading Iraq was pure NAZI.

If anyone knows what's at stake when banal meets evil...

Could Bush Be Prosecuted for War Crimes?

A Nuremberg chief prosecutor says there is a case for trying Bush for the 'supreme crime against humanity, an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.'

By Jan Frel, AlterNet. Posted July 10, 2006.
Alternet.org

EXCERPT...

Most Americans firmly believe there is nothing the United States or its political leadership could possibly do that could equate to the crimes of Hitler's Third Reich. The Nazis are our "gold standard of evil," as author John Dolan once put it.

But the truth is that we can, and we have -- most recently and significantly in Iraq. Perhaps no person on the planet is better equipped to identify and describe our crimes in Iraq than Benjamin Ferenccz, a former chief prosecutor of the Nuremberg Trials who successfully convicted 22 Nazi officers for their work in orchestrating death squads that killed more than one million people in the famous Einsatzgruppen Case. Ferencz, now 87, has gone on to become a founding father of the basis behind international law regarding war crimes, and his essays and legal work drawing from the Nuremberg trials and later the commission that established the International Criminal Court remain a lasting influence in that realm.

Ferencz's biggest contribution to the war crimes field is his assertion that an unprovoked or "aggressive" war is the highest crime against mankind. It was the decision to invade Iraq in 2003 that made possible the horrors of Abu Ghraib, the destruction of Fallouja and Ramadi, the tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths, civilian massacres like Haditha, and on and on. Ferencz believes that a "prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity, that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation."

Interviewed from his home in New York, Ferencz laid out a simple summary of the case:

"The United Nations charter has a provision which was agreed to by the United States formulated by the United States in fact, after World War II. It says that from now on, no nation can use armed force without the permission of the U.N. Security Council. They can use force in connection with self-defense, but a country can't use force in anticipation of self-defense. Regarding Iraq, the last Security Council resolution essentially said, 'Look, send the weapons inspectors out to Iraq, have them come back and tell us what they've found -- then we'll figure out what we're going to do. The U.S. was impatient, and decided to invade Iraq -- which was all pre-arranged of course. So, the United States went to war, in violation of the charter."

It's that simple. Ferencz called the invasion a "clear breach of law," and dismissed the Bush administration's legal defense that previous U.N. Security Council resolutions dating back to the first Gulf War justified an invasion in 2003. Ferencz notes that the first Bush president believed that the United States didn't have a U.N. mandate to go into Iraq and take out Saddam Hussein; that authorization was simply to eject Hussein from Kuwait. Ferencz asked, "So how do we get authorization more than a decade later to finish the job? The arguments made to defend this are not persuasive."

CONTINUED...

http://alternet.org/waroniraq/38604/

"WHAT WAR?"