Can this be true? Repugs conspiring to get * out of the way?

[spinbaby]

I got this from a somewhat politically connected friend:

"Democrats have rounded up enough support from disaffected Republicans for a 'September surprise.' Republicans, facing midterm elections and watching the President's approval ratings plummet into the toilet, are conspiring to dissociate themselves from the most unpopular president in the history of polls, and have made a secret agreement with Democrats to bring charges against Bush just in time for the whole uproar to be going on durinng the November election. Otherwise, they fear, the Democrats might win an absolute majority in both houses, on the strength of the anti-Bush tidal wave."

[Lerkfish]

1. um...don't think that's gonna happen, myself

that implies a certain amount of integrity on the part of the republicans, which, even though basted in self-interest, still is not characteristic.
I think this feels like wishful thinking.

[spinbaby]

3. Yeah, you're probably right

But it is pleasant to contemplate.

[TornadoTN]

6. Probably so, but it is interesting

I have pondered this possibility myself, and in the end, I just can't put any stock into it. However, having said that, I still won't discount that possibility completely. Here in typical conservative Eastern Tennessee the wave of furor over the Iraq war, the erosion of civil liberties and rising gas prices have the populace in a state of disarray. Even some of the more predominant Republicans running for office are trying their best to dissasociate themselves from the mainstream of the Bush admininistration.

I think that if we get closer to the election and the polls are showing a massive swing towards to the Democrats (as some already show), I believe that in a mad grab to retain power, they just might be desparate enough to do something along these lines.

[kentuck]

2. I doubt it , because....

otherwise, why would they support the resolution on the Iraq War that was dreamed up by Karl Rove? Other than showing support for George W Bush, what other purpose could they have had??

[endarkenment]

4. Did you have a source for that quote?

Offhand I think its total bullshit.

[spinbaby]

9. It's from a friend

It's only his opinion. He has some potent connections, which is why this gives me pause.

[Minnesota Libra]

5. Hey, I'll take it and not ask any questions either. I'm not sure..........

.....I agree though. Watching CSPAN and CSPAN II gives the impression that neocons are fighting with everything they've got and still using the old "We won so deal with it" attitude.

[leveymg]

7. Not exactly in the way your friend presents it.

More like Cheney resigns for "health reasons", McCain gets appointed, Shrub has some sort of incapacitating event that puts McCain in place to lead the "United We Stand" slate with Joe Lieberman in time for the 2008 elections.

Then, we bomb Iran - World War Four, and traditional politics really won't much matter.:nuke:

Of course, we Democrats could fight like hell and win by a big enough majority to reclaim the American Republic and save the world from destruction. :kick: :patriot: Roll credits. Cue theme song.:patriot: :kick:

[HughBeaumont]

8. Wouldn't this be construed as the number one Rovian sin?

That would be "Admitting error/wrongdoing"?

[saltpoint]

10. That would be breathtaking news but it seems unlikely for Rethugs to

dump Bush when they've spent the last 6 years licking his bootheels.

Their names are on a lot of those failures: the prescription drug red tape mess, the unfunded and failed No Child Left Behind initiative, the tax cuts for the filthy rich, campaign donors list for Lay and Skilling, plus a pile of Rethug Congress critters in photos embraced by Cheney and Bush at local fish fries and fundraisors, etc.

Bush deserves widespread scorn but I don't look to Republicans to bring it.

Then-Congressman Earl Langrieb (R-IN) was still extolling the virtues of Richard Nixon after he'd resigned the presidency for his role in nefarious doings in the Watergate years.

The Langrieb Syndrome is still strong in a lot of Republicans.

[Boo Boo]

11. I don't buy that at all. If somebody told me they were going to do it

to Cheney, I'd have a lot easier time believing that. Still not likely at all, but at least it makes logical sense.

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. Probably not

Some Repbulicans may try to dissociate themselves with Bush, but they won't bring charges against him.

[Benhurst]

13. I think they'll just steal another election and get Katie Couric

and the rest of the corporate media whores to "explain" it to us.

It's worked three times in the past, why not try it again?

[Mnemosyne]

14. I would not be surprised if they tried

to martyr the filthy little POS, thinking it will allow them free reign to avenge his death in the wake of our "shock".

There may be more than a few reasons * is so paranoid with his security.

But then again, maybe my tinfoil is too tight this a.m.!

[deaniac21]

15. Was the source Jason Leopold?

[peacetalksforall]

16. Are you saying they are going to betray George, then partner with

Dems then betrays Dems?

"...have made a secret agreement with Democrats to bring charges against Bush just in time for the whole uproar to be going on during the November election. Otherwise, they fear, the Democrats might win an absolute majority in both houses, on the strength of the anti-Bush tidal wave."

I can't comment until I understand this. But, hanging over all of this is Iran which can change everything depending on the lies and their effect, plus the timing.

Also, normally when there is a planned tide it takes a long, long time to roll in and roll out if it involves changing people's opinion.

It would involve having corporate propaganda tv and many writers working for Congress instead of the WH. Remember, the WH is at war against Congress - they only want ir for illusion of a Constitution. They have and are continuing to disable it. They operate a secret sub-government. TV and other media is with the WH because of their corporate connections. They are tools that some Senators and Representatives are not going to win over until Congresspeople resolve to save Congress and acts. Is that going to happen? It could happen if Dems are voted in. Maybe not if a person is despondent about it all.

Only the people can save this country. The media must be exposed. The Dems have to give it a try. The PNAC-baron clique that has ruled with the same players starting with the JFK assassination are still in charge of everything. They are on a roll. Stockholders help. The media carries the day over and over.

[npincus]

17. this was an email? Was any particular group sponsoring this message?

[KoKo]

18. The Repugs own it all...there's no need to make any agreements with

Democrats. When you own it all ....why negotiate. Just look at our Dem track record. We can't even stop attacks like Swift Boating and Dan Rather was shown the door by CBS as the final retribution for daring to bring up Bush AWOL. They don't take "prisoners," they shoot to kill. The "fear factor" has everyone doing their bidding. Look at Arlen Specter's turn around on NSA hearings.

I don't know where you heard this...but I wouldn't dwell on it as having any truth...it's nice fantasy, though. ;-)'s