"Friendly condemnation" can save the farm in South LA

[Maraya1969]

It is a way for the state to buy the land forcefully but not in a mean way. The state of California can buy the land from this greedy Horowitz guy and keep it for the farmers or well it with the provision that it remains in the state that it now in.


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/T?&report=hr456&dbname=107&

[Igel]

1. A better explanation is at

http://www.co.clark.nv.us/comprehensive_planning/Redevelopment/Report/EMINENTDOMAIN%20final2-3-04.pdf

P. 6-7. I think.

But any mention of Fort Clatsop State Park automatically gets a :thumbsup: Great park. Reminds me of Fort Howard in Maryland, with the large concrete bunkers from the Spanish-American War.

It still requires sufficient justification for eminent domain; this seems to be one of the original sticking points. Acquire land for purpose X; if not needed, it gets sold back, later interpretations of 'needed' notwithstanding. Then again, I tend to dislike the New London eminent domain way of doing things on principle, in which 'public' means either the city's treasury or 'a small group of people'.

Would the company get back what the land's currently worth? Would they take a cut and have to be content with possible tax breaks if they reinvest in like land (assuming there is like land, this being LA, after all)? After all, if he says no and is unwilling to accept what the city offers for a tax break, it's no longer friendly.

[Maraya1969]

3. Yes they would get what the land is worth. And when I brought up

the question of whether the state can waive the capital tax burden to an 83 year old woman who has been doing this type of protesting al her life she said "they do it all the time"

The state of Florida offered to buy the 91,000 acres Babcock ranch which is mostly pristine wilderness but they offered too little and the family refused so now this greedy developer got a contract and wants the state to make all sorts or concessions for him and buy back 20,000 acres so HE can have the money to build his CITY in the middle of this wilderness. It will literally cost the taxpayers of Florida a BILLION dollars to build the infrastructure - 7 lane highway, water, electricity etc. And now the greedy lying bastard is running around telling everyone that the Babcock family will "only sell to a developer". Of course this is because he is going to pay their taxes - or should I say the state of Florida will pay them through the back door.

The fight has been going on for a couple years now. It is going to end up in a court house because of all the laws it is blatantly breaking - like there is no NEED for the development and breaks almost all of the 'SUNSHINE LAW" that were set up to try and keep this state from being in complete ruin. But the greedy county commissioners keep allowing this thing to go through. I've been at the meetings and the ONLY people who stand up FOR the city are the ones who are going to make money from it.

But he is not going to get away with it because the fighters have too many tricks up their sleeves. I know because I am one of them. And after this guy spends millions trying to get his "legacy" built, (he actually said that) and losses in the end it is going to send a big message to all developers in Florida. DON'T MESS WITH US!

[roguevalley]

2. some fat cats and bill gates could give their lunch money to save

that far. fuck rich people who tut-tut stuff on tv and do nothing. I would give coin to save those fantastic trees and I'm on a fixed income.

[Richard D]

4. Money isn't the issue

Horoshitz said that he wouldn't sell the land to the farmers for any price.

[Maraya1969]

6. Yea but the Babcocks said the same thing until we found out that

it was the tax burden that they were worried about. If the state of CA waived their capital gains and/or back taxes they probably would change their mind. Why else would they say the won't sell to farmers? Money is money and I doubt that they care where it comes from.

[Cha]

5. Best of Luck with that..

Or why not spearhead a fundraiser if you're a wealthy, eco-conscience Angelean?