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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:44 PM
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Now, What About Cheney?
Now that the long speculation about whether White House political czar Karl Rove would be indicted for the role he played in exposing the identity of a CIA operative is done, perhaps the investigation of the Bush administration "hit" on Iraq War critic Joe Wilson can focus in on the fundamental questions that have been raised by the machinations of key players in the administration with the apparent goal of punishing a former diplomat for exposing White House misstatements and misdeeds.

The attention to Rove's involvement in the effort to reveal the identity of Wilson's wife, veteran Central Intelligence Agency operative Valerie Plame -- after Wilson, a former ambassador, revealed that key players in the Bush administration had to have know that elements of their "case" for attacking Iraq had been discredited -- was always something of a distraction. Of course, as David Corn and others have ably illustrated, Rove's actions demanded scrutiny. But the fury that so many Democrats feel toward Rove caused them to obsess on the question of whether he would be indicted, rather than to recognize that the critical indictment was that of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff and a key advisor to President Bush on national security matters.

It is Libby who faces trial in January 2007 on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. And it is Libby, the Cheney confidante, who connects this scandal to his boss in a way that Rove, the Bush confidante, was unlikely ever to have connected it to his boss. Thus, from the time of Libby's indictment, the question that always mattered most was not: Will special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald indict Rove? It was always: Will Fitzgerald connect the dots that lead to Cheney?

No top office within the administration was better positioned than Cheney's to gather the information that was used to attack Wilson and his wife and to peddle that information to the press. In fact, as Joe Wilson told me in an interview about the leaking of his wife's name that we did early in 2004, "With respect to who actually leaked the information, there are really only a few people -- far fewer than the president let on when he said there are a lot of senior administration officials -- who could have done it. At the end of the day, you have to have the means, the keys to the conversations at which somebody might drop my wife's name -- deliberately or not -- a national security clearance, and a reason to be talking about this. When you look at all that, there are really very few people who exist at that nexis between national security and foreign policy and politics. You can count them, literally, on two hands."

cont'd...

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=91300
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:46 PM
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1. Cheney would be a decent consolation prize...
but Rove is still the evil antichrist in my book.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:51 PM
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2. I would settle for that prize.
And yes, Rove is quite the evil one.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:53 PM
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3. If Rove Turned On Cheney - You Can Bet Your Boots That This....
won't be the end of the matter if Cheney gets sacked. Cheney will flip on Rove & *.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:05 PM
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4. After all these years and money spent investigating.
Someone other than Libby will be indicted.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:12 PM
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5. Cheney knows by now Rove finked on him.. fake heart attack comming soon!!
:woohoo:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:21 PM
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6. I think we should come to grips with the fact that they got away
with treason. All this had-wringing and wishful thinking is pretty useless. This admin has been above the law for 6 years and there is nothing at this point that change that. The November elections will likely be stolen blatantly, and we will have no recourse.

It's over folks. the criminals are in charge.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:27 PM
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7. I don't want to be a defeatist.
I will wait until the investigation is over and see what happens. Just my opinion. And we CAN take back the Congress. If we all focus on that task and not get diverted.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:33 PM
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8. Cheney needs to be probed...
anally... with a loaded .12 Gauge
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:35 PM
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10. Now THERE'S a visual.
Thanks Picasso. That picture is complete.

:-)

Welcome to DU!!!

:hi:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:58 PM
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13. Thanks for the welcome...
:hi:

I have a very vivid imagination on issues like these! :rofl:

I think the only way we are going to rid ourselves of the slime infestation that runs our Country is plain and simple: full scale Revolution! It's the only thing these facist pigs will understand given all of their draft-dodging nazi ways. As a veteran, it sickens me every time I hear one of these pukes try to put down Kerry, Murtha, and yes, even McCain. It makes my blood boil.

Now in darkness world stops turning,
ashes where the bodies burning.
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, God is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercies for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
Oh lord, yeah!
--Black Sabbath, War Pigs
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 04:03 PM
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14. You may not be far off re: revolution.
The criminal cabal in the White House should be in the Big House. How much longer before we snap?
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:54 PM
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15. How much longer before we snap?
I'm at that point right now... teetering on the edge of rational thought and actions. Not that I think Revolution is irrational, just some very dark thoughts in my mind like ..."if I knew my kids would be taken care of, I'd take the S.O.B. out myself"... stuff like that. I hate these feelings I get as I watch Democracy being stripped away from us every day. How much more can we take? Better yet, how much more will we take? How much longer can the sheeple keep their heads buried in the grass? 2,500 American Soldiers dead... almost 18,000 wounded, disfigured or mentally scarred for life, all in the name of "spreading democracy" to a country that doesn't want our democracy. How many of us are truly willing to fight and die to save our own Democracy? I know I am... ready, willing and able
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:35 PM
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9. Cheney soon to step down for *ahem* Health Reasons
Probly not..but, hey, a guy can dream! :-)
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:36 PM
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11. What about Hadley?
Has he been ruled out? I'm a little behind on Plame matters.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:39 PM
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12. I don't think he has been ruled out.
But I too haven't been on top of this the whole time.
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