Bob Fitrakis suggests a new Warren County (Ohio) lockdown theory...

[Junkdrawer]

Bob's response to a question about Warren County during last night's Online Chat:

Warren County lockdown:

The Toledo Blade could easily report on Warren County if it wished. The key thing to remember about Warren Cty is that employees were told on Thursday that there might be a homeland security threat on the Tuesday election day in 2004. The purpose of the lockdown I believe was not so much to keep the observers out, but as an excuse to divert the ballots to an unauthorized warehouse under the control of a Repub Party hack.

That's when Bush picked up 14,000 extra votes. I have a map of the location of the warehouse and have a witness, should we get this back in court, to testify.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x408980#409035

rosebud57 has a separate thread in Election Reform on the matter:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x409184

[helderheid]

1. K & R

[EFerrari]

2. Sonuvabitch.

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[kster]

7. Sum of a glitch..............nt

[toymachines]

3. Warren county stinks to high hell

The whole terrorist threat lockdown has never been explained and should be a point of deep media, political, and social concern. Along with sooo many other things.

[EFerrari]

4. These terrorists are going to be outed.

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[Beam Me Up]

17. Do you PROMISE?

Do you have any idea how cynical I've become?

Tell me it is possible to CHANGE THE WORLD we live in. Tell me it is possible to turn night into day and despair into hope?

Tell me that it is still possible to PEACEFULLY right this floundering and shoal bound ship of state.

[madrchsod]

5. cut and run kerry?

sorry his capitulation that morning proved to me he was just another shill for the status quo. karl and his friends stole the election and the national democratic leaders stood silent as the last hope of our democracy slipped away.

[roseBudd]

9. the Kerry lawyer assigned to Warren was part of the problem as he

proved to be very naive.

[peacetalksforall]

12. As each day passes, the capitulation is more painful. All I can

remember is what I heard most often - Kerry didn't want to repeat the problems Gore had - the unending critcism of him for fighting - for asking for recounts. What a pitiful reason.

As I learn, I feel the DLC was in charge both times. For this, I can no longer tolerate the DLC and its leaders. I know this is all the outcome of my putting my own bits and bytes together on my own. But I feel it strongly and with disgust.

When Edwards got out there and said we were going to count every vote, I believed him. I didn't doubt him as I have come to doubt anything that comes out of Geroge's mouth since someone in his cabinet or staff contradicts everything George says within hours, plus or minus.

I still believed John Edwarads, but I still don't know if I should. That is what constant lying by government leaders do to a person. And that is exactly the way PNAC, the Fed Society, their think tankers, their reverends want it to be and that is how all their batallions in their army have set it up. We live lies in the United States of America which is really the United States of Corporations. We are citizens of the lie. Our liars also steal and kill and change their masks from their trunkloads of masks.

[glitch]

13. "Citizens of the Lie" well said higher class. nt

[Beam Me Up]

18. Powerful words, higher class

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[kimpossible]

20. Edwards wanted to fight it out

He argued with Kerry that they shouldn't concede, but couldn't convince him.

[tiptoe]

6. k&r

[ladjf]

8. The political situation in Ohio has degenerated to such a low level

that the certification of their elected political officials should be pulled. That, of course, will never happen.

[babsbunny]

10. Let's Email The Toledo Blade and ask them

why they are not reporting on this. www.toledoblade.com

[mod mom]

11. The Toledo Blade chose not to report on their local role in the '04

election theft, one which came from the horses mouth:

Blackwell, OH SOS Investigation of the Lucas County BOE

includes the fact that REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.


-One-half of the ballots printed and used in the 2004 general election in Lucas county were stored in an open space on the fhird floor of the county warehouse with no security measures in place.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation on Lucas County BOE page 4



-Live ballots were delivered to polling locations a week in advance of the election. Although the ballots were retrieved, one board employee who was assigned to the warehouse informed the SOS staff that he did not believe all the ballots were successfully retrieved.
SOURCE; SOS Investigation, page 5



-Lucas County BOE failed to record or retrieve ballot stub numbers of absentee voters’ ballots as required by statute OH Revised Code 3505.23. It was reported by an elector that her mother had received not one, but three absentee voter ballots. there was no way to determine if similar incidents occurred and if so how many.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, page 7




-October 4, 2004 was filing deadline for new voter registrations. At that point there were approximately 20,000 unprocessed voter registration applications with less than a month before the election. One mail tray containing 4,500-7,000 (estimates vary) unprocessed “Project Voter” registrations were discovered on or about October 18,2004.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 10

***Of interest here is information obtained from the SOS website entitled ElectionsVoter/results 2003 and 2004 which show the # of registered voters number change from ‘03-’04 was 11,947 in Lucas County: reg voters 2003 in Lucas=288,190 ; registered voter in 2004=300,137.



-In late September or early October an employee of the Ohio Republican Party contacted Sam Thurber (*involved with politician wife Maggie Thurber in Noe scandal.) wanting to inspect and have copies made of all recently returned voter registrations, Ohio Republican Party offered to furnish volunteers to assist with copying postcards. No one at the Lucas County BOE can confirm that anyone was assigned to supervise Republican volunteers. On their second day of copying, a BOE employee, Jennifer Bernath, Democratic Booth Official) saw republican party volunteers peeling off the yellow return stickers applied by the post office. (Violation of RC 149.43 (B) (I) , and agruably a violation of 149.351.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, pgs 18-19



-The Swanton 3 poll book turned up missing and has never been recovered.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 16


http://www.sos.state.oh.us:80/sos/ElectionsVoter/OhioElections.aspx?Section=1008

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR RELUCTANCE, BUT THEN I FEEL THE SAME THING ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THEY SHOULD BE SCREAMING ABOUT THIS, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE GAO REPORT ON ELECTRONIC VOTING CAME OUT:

The GAO Report on Electronic Voting Machines

The GAO recently released a 107 page scathing report on Electronic Voting Machines in our country. The report states that Electronic Voting Machines in the U.S. are NOT SECURE, NOT ACCOUNTABLE, NOT TRANSPARENT, NOT ACCURATE, AND ARE UNCERTIFIABLE. A bipartisan panel which included both Republican Congressman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and Democratic Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) released a joint news release (a true rarity in these days of divisive politics) regarding his report, yet the main stream media has ignored it's important findings. Here is a link to the GAO Report:

http://www.gao.gov/highlights/d05956high.pdf

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BLADES SILENCE, BUT BELIEVE ME ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY MADE.

[understandinglife]

14. K&R.

Peace.

[Junkdrawer]

15. .

[Time for change]

16. "That's when Bush picked up 14,000 extra votes"

Do you know what he meant by that?

I'm having a hard time understanding this. Where were the 14,000 extra votes registered, and what exactly was done in the warehouse?

[paineinthearse]

19. back to the 1st page

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