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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:59 AM
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Two 500 pound bombs and his body is perfectly intact. Hmmmmm
Call me a skeptic.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:00 AM
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1. You skeptic, you
Maybe it landed a bit away from him?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:01 AM
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2. Yea, like a mile?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:47 AM
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13. Just a tad
a mile...two...what's the difference with a petite ordinance like that?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:42 AM
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26. And I am sure no dry ice was harmed in the making of the photo!
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 10:08 AM by papau
This is the second(? Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniyah mountains of northern Iraq “during the American bombing there,” according to a statement circulated in Fallujah this week and signed by the “Leadership of the Allahu Akbar Mujahedeen.” - more like 5th time perhaps) time we killed him of course - indeed I seem to recall the first time was not in Iraq so it did not count!

:-)

on edit - looks like I was incorrect about an outside Iraq death report - that was another death of an Osama number 2! :-)
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:01 AM
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3. It's Starting To Get Real Hot In Iraq And With Spotty Electricity ....
the ice was melting - so they had to parade his body out now before it was totally unrecognizable.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:02 AM
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4. Smart bombs...
perfect explanation....:eyes:

I'd like some former/current Air Force people to jump in here and validate or debunk this.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:03 AM
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5. Inflation. Two 500 lb. bombs just don't go as far as they used to.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:04 AM
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6. They have a freakin' picture of him at the press conference.
Dead.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:00 AM
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16. It looks like the back of his head is blown off
It seems strange

http://www.cnn.com/

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:19 AM
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20. Strangely this picture
looks like the guy in the recent video which didn't look like the previous pix of Zarqawi. I give up.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:04 AM
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7. Perfectly intact
and frozen solid.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:09 AM
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9. Guess the ice is a hangover
from where he posed as an iceberg to sink the Titanic.
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olaus Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:08 AM
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8. I doubt
that it is in perfect condition. It appears that the house he was in was not some small wood hut so he could have been trapped under a slab. I hope it was not a quick death if he suffered a bit I have no problem with that. I am glad he is dead it is good news, will there be a replacement of course there will be. One thing that a lot of people do not see is there is a segment of the Muslim world that has been attacking other cultures for years. This battle will not end in the near term but we need to be striking back. I know this is an unpopular thought, I do not like it either but it is a fact(IMHO). Slipping into my flame proof undies.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:12 AM
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10. I wonder if they were Mk 82s?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:13 AM
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11. A "T.V. General" says explosives may not have been used. The weight
of the bombs was enough to collapse the building around the intended target.

The purpose: to identify Zarqawi.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:29 AM
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12. This is not at all surprising
These bombs can cause a bunch of shrapnel but the concussion can cause a building to collapse which can kill someone yet not cause a lot of physical damage. I'm sure you have seen many pictures on DU of intact bodies of iraqi children killed by these bombs.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:50 AM
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14. Have we seen a full body shot? n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:51 AM
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15. I have just about enough of this conspiracy bull...
it is getting ridiculous. Why do people always do this? Can't anything just be what it is? You do realize that all those asshole freepers are watching this forum, right? This thread will probably end up over on FR making fun of us. Get a grip!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:08 AM
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18. Let me ask you,
is there ANYTHING about this war in Iraq that the government has NOT lied about?

Why should we suddenly start believing them now?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:29 AM
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23. I proposed to conpiracy theory whatsoever. It's all in your mind.
I just said I'm skeptical.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:35 AM
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24. Who gives a damn what asshole freepers say?
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 09:37 AM by July
Looks as if you do, and I recommend you don't go over there if their antics bother you. Freepers' making fun of us is important to them, not to us.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:06 AM
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17. He probably never really existed. They made him up and
used him to help their cause.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:15 AM
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19. Just like Adda's intact passport...nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:25 AM
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21. eh, it's not as ludicrous as it seems
Unless the bomb actually lands on you, or you're hit by some shrapnel (which, incidentally, these big bombs are designed to reduce), most deaths are from concussion. Concussion basically liquifies soft tissue like organs, but bones, skin and muscle make it through ok.

That may seem odd seeing how chewed up our own soldiers get, but the IEDs that are killing and maiming them are designed to maximize shrapnel (they're often packed with nails, ball bearings, etc.), whereas ours were designed mainly to A) destroy big hard things like bunkers and tanks and B) knock out a large group of people reliably (concussion is "reliable" in that sense; shrapnel, though more graphic in its effects, isn't, and it's pretty much a trade off of concussion vs. shrapnel since the kinetic energy going into one gets taken away from the other. Blame the 1st law of thermodynamics).
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:28 AM
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22. Yahoo just put up a "battered" zarqawi photo


This video image displayed by the U.S. Military at a press conference in Baghdad, Iraq Thursday, June 8, 2006, purports to show the body of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida's leader in Iraq who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings and kidnappings, who was killed in an U.S. air strike Wednesday, Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki announced Thursday, June 8, 2006. (AP Photo/U.S. Military)

I like the use pof the word "purports".

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:39 AM
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25. I'm skeptical on this death
these people lie so much, you don't know what to believe, I'll wait till Osama comes out with another video.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:46 AM
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27. There are very many reasons to be skeptical. The Pentagon Propaganda
is a very big reason....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890.html

Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi
Jordanian Painted As Foreign Threat To Iraq's Stability

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 10, 2006; Page A01

The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The documents state that the U.S. campaign aims to turn Iraqis against Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian, by playing on their perceived dislike of foreigners. U.S. authorities claim some success with that effort, noting that some tribal Iraqi insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists.


For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist. Although Zarqawi and other foreign insurgents in Iraq have conducted deadly bombing attacks, they remain "a very small part of the actual numbers," Col. Derek Harvey, who served as a military intelligence officer in Iraq and then was one of the top officers handling Iraq intelligence issues on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told an Army meeting at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., last summer.




'Leverage Xenophobia'
Two slides from a briefing prepared for Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, describe a U.S. military propaganda campaign that was intended to highlight the role of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist, in the Iraqi insurgency. By emphasizing his foreign origin, the "psychological operations" effort sought to play on a perceived Iraqi dislike of foreigners and so split the insurgency.

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