In three months, we will emerge from Iraq victorious!

[KansDem]

Well, if you go by the WWII timeline anyway.

We went to war with Germany the day after Pearl Harbor (December 7, 1941--September 7 if you're George H W Bush*). Germany surrendered in May 1945, roughly 3 years 6 months later. We invaded Iraq roughly 3 years 3 months ago, so convoluted logic (the same that got us into Iraq in the first place) says we will prevail and emerge victorious in Iraq in 3 months!

Compare our situation in Iraq today with what was going on in Europe at roughly the same time in the war. Here are some events from January to March, 1945 (with February being roughly 3 years 3 months):

Jan 1-17 - Germans withdraw from the Ardennes.

Jan 16, 1945 - U.S. 1st and 3rd Armies link up after a month long separation during the Battle of the Bulge.

Jan 17, 1945 - Soviet troops capture Warsaw.

Jan 26, 1945 - Soviet troops liberate Auschwitz.

Feb 4-11 - Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin meet at Yalta.

Feb 13/14 - Dresden is destroyed by a firestorm after Allied bombing raids.

March 6, 1945 - Last German offensive of the war begins to defend oil fields in Hungary.

March 7, 1945 - Allies take Cologne and establish a bridge across the Rhine at Remagen.

March 30, 1945 - Soviet troops capture Danzig.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm#1945

Now, now, or course some will say this is like comparing apples to oranges, but consider that the United States along with its allies pushed back and destroyed the Nazi War Machine and its allies in just 3 years 6 months. It's amazing what a country can do with a real reason to go to war; a just cause for going to war; competent leadership--both civilian and military (FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Patton, Halsey, my dad...); an corporate/industrial base willing to take up the cause (Detroit goes from making Buicks to making tanks overnight); and a nation of citizens bonded together, willing to sacrifice for the troops ("Meatless Tuesdays," gas rationing, etc...). Considering we're fighting a ragtag, motely crew of "terrorists, no wait, "Saddam sympathizers," no, correction, "Insurgents" or whatever their name is this week, this "war" should be a real, well, "cakewalk."

So you see, folks, to quote Winston Churchill, This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. (Speech given at the Lord Mayor's Luncheon, Mansion House, London, November 10, 1942), although, more optimistically than Churchill, we could very well say we're at "the beginning of the end."

Buck up! It's almost over...
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*7 Sep 1988 George Bush: "Today, you remember -- I wonder how many Americans remember -- today is Pearl Harbor Day. Forty-seven years ago to this very day we were hit and hit hard at Pearl Harbor." Attribution

[Downtown Hound]

1. Well, given that the righties are always comparing this to WWII

I think that the comparison is appropriate. God damn idiots, can't they see that there is no hope for this situation?

[KansDem]

5. You're right! "9/11 = Pearl Harbor," "Bush = Truman"

Well, actually Bush compared himself to Truman:

President Bush implicitly compared himself to Harry S. Truman in a commencement address at the United States Military Academy on Saturday, saying Truman acted boldly against the "fanatic faith" of cold war communism in the same way Mr. Bush's administration has responded to the threat of terrorism since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"By the actions he took, the institutions he built, the alliances he forged and the doctrines he set down, President Truman laid the foundations for America's victory in the cold war," Mr. Bush told the class of 2006.

Mr. Bush has compared the struggle against communism to the current war against Islamic radicalism in previous speeches, but his address on Saturday was his most developed on the theme. He left it unsaid that Truman was deeply unpopular at the end of his two terms in office and that it took a generation to appreciate his achievements.

"Like the cold war, we are fighting the followers of a murderous ideology that despises freedom, questions all dissent, has territorial ambitions and pursues totalitarian aims," Mr. Bush said. He added that "like Americans in Truman's day, we are laying the foundations for victory."

The president made a passing but pointed reference to the present standoff with Iran over its nuclear ambitions. "The message has spread from Damascus to Tehran that the future belongs to freedom, and we will not rest until the promise of liberty reaches every people in every nation," Mr. Bush said.

http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1148830157.shtml

But I'm sure the Corporate Media sycophants, not to mention the neo-Con fascists, went right along with him.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Problem is, we're playing the Germans in this round.

[coalition_unwilling]

4. Proposed question for the 2006 SATs (Analogies):

Hitler was to Poland as Bush is to:

a) Afghanistan
b) Iraq
c) Iran
d) all of the above

[Armstead]

3. We''ll emerge victorious because of the Nov. election

What is most liklely is that the administration will find some way to "Declare Victory and Go Home" in time to salvage the November election. They'll figure out how to spin promised withdrawal as a strategic victory, and the MSM will obediently play along and trot a new version of the "Toppling Sadaam's Statue" footage and all of the "rub the liberal's nose in the dirt" after the first Iraqi election a couple of years ago. Tpouting a "remarkable GOP turnaround" because of the Iraq Victory of 06.

Of course reality will ctch up to the deception -- but as long as it doesn;t happen until after early November, they won;t care.,