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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:04 PM
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Well looky here - a freeper is running for Congress!
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:05 PM by proud2Blib
First I saw this comment about the Haditha massacre and a reporter's column condemning it:

War is a deadly business. Apparently, she thinks it should be conducted perfectly, or not at all. She is therefore a brass-plated geopolitical moron. I'll wager that she's never read any detailed histories of WW II. In a single day, due to an error in bombing coordinates, Allied bombers during the invasion of France killed about 6,000 of our troops and French civilians.

By the standards of the drivel she writes, we should have stopped the fight against Hitler and the Nazis, then and there. What a pathetic excuse for a couple articles about the American military she is. I don't support illegal actions by any US troops. The other side deliberately slaughters men, women and children. We use the Military Code of Justice to examine and punish, if appropriate on the facts, any such action by our troops.

Thank God there is the US military to defend our freedoms, including the freedom of this journalistic moron to write and publish her nonsense.

Did I miss anything?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1640317/posts?q=1&&page=1

Then I see his website posted at the bottom:
http://www.armorforcongress.com/

He is in western NC. BRAINSHRUB!! That's where you live. Do you know this guy?

edit - oops forgot a link
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:08 PM
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1. Great Find! Lol... oh SSNAP! (nt)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:18 PM
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5. I am stunned.
I have no intention of running for Congress, but if I did, I can guarantee that I would NOT put a link to my website in my sigline here. With 20000+ posts here, my opponents are bound to find something to smear me with.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:51 PM
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23. Not Only Destroy His Own Political Career but...
destroys others in his own party. This guy is doing us a political favor. He is showing how whacked out America has become since the GOP has come into power. The crazies have come out of their shadows for daylight to see.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:09 PM
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2. This caveman is just what we need.
The more exposure this cro-mag gets, the better, IMHO.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:19 PM
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7. His website is pretty funny
I would hope the voters in NC are smart enough to vote AGAINST this guy.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:20 PM
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8. absolutely (nt)
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:10 PM
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3. I don't see any record of military service on his part.
Typical freeper.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:18 PM
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6. BINGO. Cheney got FIVE deferments. Poppy got DimSon a slot in the Guard.
Same goes for most of the pukes in Congress. This new turd will go far in the Party.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:20 PM
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9. Of course not
but he is quite the war historian. :eyes:
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:17 PM
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4. Expected to find him on "Hanidate"....
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:20 PM
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10. Time to start trolling through his posts at FR for racist, controversial
and mean spirited shit.

I know its there...


Unless RimJob deletes it...
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:26 PM
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12. Great Minds think alike. I've already emailed Heath Shuler's campaign
Shall we email Taylor too? :evilgrin:

The dudes FR nick is Congressman Billybob, just in case that post gets tossed. We need to know who's post to troll for.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:25 PM
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11. Oh! I thought he wanted to buy body armor for congressmen!
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:26 PM by IanDB1
But that's actually his name, huh?

So, who is running against this genocidal massacre apologist?

Shit! It looks like there isn't a Democrat running against this fascist dirtbag!!

2006 Candidates:
(2006 primary) (D)
Charles Taylor (R-incumbent)


Here's an interesting article:

Taking back the South, one ethics investigation at a time
by Ethics for Western North Carolina
May 11th, 2005

Dear `New Democrat' and progressive venture capitalists,

I read Hans Nichols' story in The Hill announcing the New Politics Institute. As a veteran and entrepreneur, clean energy activist and resident of North Carolina, I can appreciate the NDN/NPI platform. My issue, along with renewable energy, is ethics. I feel it is right and it is fair game to bring up ethics violations among Member of Congress. If it all cuts both ways and the new `Ethics Wars' create some minor Democrat bloodshed, well maybe that will simply serve the need Americans have to see an uncorrupted Congress; on both sides of the aisle.

<snip>

I live Western North Carolina (politically known as Congressional District NC 11). This is the home of East Waynesville Baptist Church, the `Red Territory' where Eric Rudolph infamously found his refuge and the Southern hospitality of many of my neighbors. This is the district of the first Member of Congress to ever own a Russian bank. This is the land US Rep. Charles H. Taylor (R, NC-11) owns.

Although Taylor is out of the national limelight, and only appears in brief mentions about, Interior appropriations, his disethics are infamous in this part of the nation. Federal financial crimes at Taylor's bank involving former Taylor campaign executives were mishandled and leave questions in the public mind about Taylor's involvement. The DOJ was challenged and has recently responded.

But it is Taylor's Russian bank deal, briefly outlined in the Charlotte Observer and Asheville Citizen-Times in February of 2004 - but never followed up in the national press, that is of greatest interest. Constitutional requirements indicated Taylor needed to vet this `trade initiative' through the House Ethics Committee. Taylor was disrespectful of the ethics committee in the past regarding all his mysterious Russian activities, but according to the Managing Editor of the Asheville Citizen-Times, Taylor is desperately seeking approval since Tom DeLay (who was a keynote speaker at 2003 Taylor fundraiser) became national news.

My ethics activism has been covered in the DC press, but still not the Washington Post. `Group Seeks Taylor Probe', from August 11, 2003 by now deceased investigative journalist Damon Chappie ( http://main.nc.us/spotlights/taylor.shtml ), and The Hill's `From Russia with money: Local gadfly bugs Taylor', April 7, 2004 by Jonathan Kaplan (http://www.thehill.com/news/040704/russia.aspx ), are the only mentions outside North Carolina at present. The progressive agenda regarding ethics in government has unfortunately only looked at DeLay, thus far. This is an error. It's too easy to add in others (of course Bush and his henchmen).

In fact, the DCCC at one point intended to `out' Taylor, but instead moved to their www.houseofscandal.org project:

http://www.democraticaction.org/madness/taylor.php

More:
http://www.ourcongress.org/race/nc11

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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:28 PM
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13. Here's his e-mail addie. Are you sure though that a Freeper isn't
just advertising him, and Armor is not himself a member of Free Repukes? If not, the let's Dis-Arm Armor! (What an appropriate name for a freeper....you love war, you have to love armor)

Exploratory Committee, Armor for Congress
"KettleRock" Box 243
Highlands, NC 28741

e-mail: [email protected]
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:47 PM
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20. Yes I am sure it is him
He talks about his campaign on FR. And of course he asks for donations.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:06 PM
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30. Typical. Is it too late to edit your post to add his e-mail? Someone
needs to ask this hypocrite about his millitary service or lack thereof!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:13 PM
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31. Here ya go
Exploratory Committee, Armor for Congress
"KettleRock" Box 243
Highlands, NC 28741
e-mail: [email protected]

Yes, too late to edit the OP.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:18 PM
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34. LOL! I already posted it, silly! If it's too late to edit, no matter.
:hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:47 PM
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37. Oh gotcha
LOL


:hi:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:30 PM
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14. Did anyway tell this dickweed that this invasion/occupation is not WW2?
I love how all the chickenhawks are such serious students of war....but never, ever quite motivated about it enough to actually enlist themselves.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:55 PM
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27. Yeah what is their fascination with WWII?
When they go to sleep at night, do they say "Please Jesus, let the war in Iraq be just as important as WWII"?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:38 PM
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15. It's OK. He's running against Heath Shuler (D) who is a semi-god
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:47 PM by Clark2008
in this region: http://www.heathshuler.com/

(He used to be the University of Tennessee QB and that's like a religion in East Tennessee and Western North Carolina).

Hopefully, in this case, simple idol worship will catapult the more logical person - the Democrat Heath - into office. :hi:


Edited to add: Looks like he lost the Republican primary - the GOP Heath is running against is Charles Taylor, the incumbent (and polling ahead of him - yea!): http://www.heathshuler.com/articles_details.asp?id=103
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:42 PM
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17. Damn, should I donate to Shuler? n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:49 PM
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21. I have - and I don't even live in that district.
I live in East Tennessee. :)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:39 PM
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16. John Armor's interview on Brainshrub
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:41 PM by IanDB1
Interview with John Armor. Reds and blues sit down for a talk.
Paul -V-'s picture
Interviews
Submitted by Paul -V- on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 8:00am.

What happens when you put a Republican candidate for congress in the midst of a group of inquisitive left-wing Democratic bloggers?

Two days ago, I found out.

On Sunday evening myself and a handful of Asheville bloggers interviewed John Armor, Republican congressional candidate for NC district 11.

The event was organized by "Screwy Hoolie" of the blog ScrutinyHooligans. Also in attendance was "Edgy Mama" of BlogAsheville and Chris Parsons of ModernPeasant. (I'll stick to blogonyms unless the participant tells me that I can publish their real names.)

<snip>

Freeper and DUers don't exactly get along.In the blogoshere, the rivalry between Free Republic and Democratic Underground is legendary. To say that Freepers and DUers don't get along is an understatement on par with comparing the Civil War to a spat over "Tastes Great" vs "Less Filling."

Have you ever seen English and Argentine soccer fans at a World's Cup match?

That's what it's like between Freepers and DUers.

To make it even more interesting, John Armor isn't just any Freeper. His legal opinions are highly valued on FreeRepublic; and he took the unusual step of announcing his candidacy on FreeRepublic before he told the mainstream media!

And by the way, I'm not just any DUer either. I used to be a moderator at DemocraticUnderground, and Brainshrub.com is one of the few blogs listed on that site's front page.

More:
http://www.brainshrub.com/john-armor-interview




Oh, wait... best part of the interview...





"Sir, could you please tell me what the eighth Amendment to the Constitution says?"

Mr. John "I'm-a-constitutional-lawyer" Armor did not remember!

For the record, the 8th Amendment reads: "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."


<snip>

That he's a legal scholar that can't remember the 8th amendment to the constitution should not bother Republicans in the slightest - being that the Bush administration is known for torturing people.

More:
http://www.brainshrub.com/john-armor-interview
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:51 PM
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22. I shoulda figured Brainshrub would be on this guy already
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:42 PM
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18. I just fired off this email to him:
Your Congressional bid will fail. You are an idiot. The whole world can see right through your false patriotism. You are a traitor. You support Bush, you area traitor to the true values that made this country great. Since you supported Bush in the fascist coup of 2000 then you are a traitor to this great country and it's people. Nice going fuckwad, because I saw your post on that traitorus website Freerepublic I'm going to donate $200 to your Democratic opponent and I live all the way in Hawaii.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:46 PM
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19. I don't think I'd donate to Shuler. He's an anti-choice fundie.
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:49 PM by IanDB1
Issues

Faith and Family Values -

America is only as good as the families that comprise it. Strong families, blessed with hope and opportunity, filled with ambition and dreams and guided by faith and principle are the heart of America. Growing up in the close knit community of Swain County, I learned from my parents and my church to love God, respect life, and to help those less fortunate than myself. Those fundamental principles have shaped who I am today.

I am a pro-life Democrat {sic} and I believe that all life is sacred. I also believe that a commitment to life extends beyond the womb and means ensuring that all people have adequate health care, receive a strong education, and be given proper care in their later years.

I have never shied away from openly discussing my faith. Throughout my high school, college, and professional career, I have been an active member of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and a spokesman for Character Counts. I have spoken to thousands of students across the country, sharing my testimony and trying to be a positive role model for them. Nikol and I are now raising our two children in the mountains of North Carolina with the same values that we were raised with.

More:
http://www.heathshuler.com/issues_details.asp?id=39

Instead, just dig-up as much dirt as you can on Armor and let Nazi and the DINO tear each other apart.

That is, if there's anything left of Armor after his dirty primary battle with the local Repuke.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:51 PM
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24. Yikes, I feel for that district.
Sounds like it's still 1864 in the back hallows of Carolina, it is Eric Rudolph country after all. Any Green Party candidates running?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:53 PM
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26. Yeah - but in that area, that's the only way to get elected as a
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:54 PM by Clark2008
Dem.

Unfortunate, but true.

However, I don't think he's a fundie. At least, he didn't act that way in school. :)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:56 PM
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28. If he's in favor of gay marriage, I'll give him a hundred bucks.
Edited on Mon May-29-06 08:57 PM by IanDB1
Why aren't there enough pro-gun, pro-choice, pro-equality Dems with backbones who understand complex technological and scientific issues?

Why isn't Keith Olbermann running?

Or Michael Shermer?


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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:16 PM
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33. Keith Olbermann doesn't even vote, so I'm guessing he's
not even a registered... anything.

As far as Shular - probably not for gay marriage in Western North Carolina, either. If he is, I'm doubting he'll admit it.

He's not really DLC because he's not a corporist, though. He's a classic example of a moderate-on-social-issues, liberal-on-workers issues Dem. Just the kind needed to take back the South - and then we can work on the social issues.

As long as they're not pro-corporate, I'm OK with them - for now. We do need to get them back on track on civil rights and privacy eventually, though. Getting more populist Dems in Congress and working to change the corporate-owned media will help with that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:13 AM
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44. "Moderate on social issues"
I don't consider someone willing to relegate a whole class of people as subhuman and undeserving of equal rights to be "moderate" in any way.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:57 PM
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29. Hey I am pro-life too
I am also pro-choice. :)
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:22 PM
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35. And, if you read all his issues, you find that he's probably
Edited on Mon May-29-06 09:22 PM by Clark2008
also pro-choice:

Every American deserves accessible and affordable health care. And we must make certain that EVERY child in America can see a doctor when he or she is sick. We need action in Congress, and I will address our health care needs on every level. I will start by fighting to increase funding and awareness for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) so every child has the chance to grow up healthy.

We must also make health insurance more affordable for small businesses by increasing tax credits and expanding purchasing pools. Right now health insurance costs are simply too high for many small businesses to provide coverage for their employees. Far too often this lack of coverage prevents people from seeking preventive care. This lack of care commonly results in a trip to the emergency room as their first and last resort for health care at a much higher cost.

I also support creating a real Patient’s Bill of Rights that ensures medical decisions are made by doctors and patients in the exam room, not by insurance company executives in the board room. Our rural areas and the hospitals that serve them are also in desperate need of someone fighting for them in Congress. I will work tirelessly for our rural hospitals, especially ensuring that the federal government is fully reimbursing Medicare and Medicaid costs.


A little finesse, mayhap, but I think intelligent people get the gist.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:52 PM
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25. That is GREAT!!
I am crying from laughing so hard.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:14 PM
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32. How about this from his site?
"My best skill to date has been understanding the Constitution in Supreme Court cases. My worst skill to date has been retail sales, door-to-door."
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:32 PM
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36. I'll bet he sold Electrolux vacuums.........
He sucks.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:09 PM
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40. ...also Bryant furnaces...
Edited on Mon May-29-06 10:38 PM by Kurovski
he blows. He blows hot air.

And then there was his stint as rep for a denture company...
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:56 PM
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38. Armor has already lost in the republican primary. (also a link)
Edited on Mon May-29-06 09:57 PM by ncrainbowgrrl
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:10 PM
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41. If you go to that FR link, he says he is still in the race
and alleges his opponent is being disqualified.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:12 PM
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42. From his post on FR
P.S. New info. My primary is over, but because of legal and ethical problems, the incumbent may withdraw/be forced out. He is also losing in the latest poll (5/28) to the Democrat challenger. I seek to be the replacement nominee. For more information see my website. I still need your help.

Congressman Billybob
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:19 PM
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43. Interesting. I'd think I would have seen that in the news.
Being in NC and all...

Taylor SHOULD be forced out due to legal and ethical problems... However, I wonder if this info on FR is the same info that the rest of us here in NC have known, but haven't seen anything actually happening on. Taylor is a crook. I wonder if his challenger is using this info and stretching the truth a wee bit.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:50 AM
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47. He isn't exaggerating:
Edited on Tue May-30-06 09:09 AM by brainshrub
Taylor is a complete crook. Even local conservatives acknowledge this.

The only reason Taylor is still able to run is because he's one of the wealthiest members of congress and he's a Republican.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:43 PM
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49. I just saw that and was coming over here to post it.
I live just over the Smokies from this district and, considering Shuler is the Democratic nominee and he was a QB hero for the University of Tennessee, this race is given considerable coverage locally. And, I haven't read anything about Charles Taylor considering a withdrawal.

Methinks this guy is scamming his fellow Freepers for some campaign cash.

Just like a RepubliCON, isn't it?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:57 PM
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39. One thing is certain: he's a lousy writer.
"What a pathetic excuse for a couple articles about the American military she is" (?!)

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:45 AM
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45. Yes, I do know Armor. In fact, I interviewed him for my blog.
Edited on Tue May-30-06 08:46 AM by brainshrub
Yes, I know John Armor. I interviewed him for my blog here:

www.brainshrub.com/john-armor-interview

Armor lost the primary against Republican incumbent Charles Taylor. Which is a shame, because while Armor may be a wing-nut, Taylor is a crook.

There is a slight chance that Armor may still get to run if Taylor gets nailed in the Abramoff scandal. In that case, the Republican party chair cold appoint him to run if Taylor drops out in discrace.

Believe-it-or-not, I kinda liked Armor. In fact, I gave him a semi-endorsement here:

www.brainshrub.com/taylor-armor-primary

Armor's writing-style is poor, but next to most Freepers he's Shakespeare.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:15 PM
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48. I read that interview - great work
I love the way you sat down and talked to a freeper without coming to blows. Good for you!

I also love what you have done with your blog. Way to go!! :hi:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:49 AM
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46. New slogan: "Armor for Congress, none for the troops." n/t
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