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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:26 AM
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I was just starting to feel homesick for the States today...
Edited on Sat May-27-06 10:32 AM by Yollam
...and then I got this e-mail from my dad's wife:

Subject: Border security

We have two problems that could solve each other.
1. The Southern States have a border problem with illegal aliens crossing the Rio Grande into America.

2. Florida has an abundance of alligators who are eating people down there.

The natural barrier between America and Mexico is the Rio Grande river. If we took Florida's surplus alligators and dropped them in the Rio Grande...problem solved.


About $50,000 for catching and transporting 10,000 hungry alligators to the river along the Mexican border

$5,000 for warning signs and salsa

The result...PRICELESS.

Oh, and then there was this other gem (which is over 7 years old and has been partially debunked by Snopes:



She really was a traitor


This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century"

Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot

The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand.

When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.

I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343


And instantly, my homesickness is gone.

Honestly I have no idea why she sends this crap to me and everybody else on her CC list. It bugs the shit out of me and I have told her as much, but she still sends it.

Ha ha ha. Let's feed the Mexicans to alligators because they are poor and foreign, and desperate to come work for peanuts for rich republican slavedrivers, HA HA SO FUNNY.

And OOH, I'm just SOOO mad about Jane Fonda being honored SEVEN YEARS AGO after she did some dumb things to protest the war THIRTY YEARS AGO, which she has apologized numerous times for. OOH YEAH that really burns me up, because it's not like anyone's LIES are getting our troops killed in IRAQ right now, is it?


You folks still living in the states have so got your work cut out for you. I am anything BUT a P.C. tight-ass, but I hate this kind of bilge.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:31 AM
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1. I know. I just got that idiotic email that Andy Rooney supposedly wrote.
It was debunked three years ago by Andy Rooney himself on TV! And yet, it is still floating around, and being forwarded by stupid people.
I did a "REPLY ALL" and included the entire SNOPES page detailing the misinformation and how pissed off Andy Rooney was that this racist, ignorant stuff was being attributed to him.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:37 AM
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2. Pff I'm only 24 I'm already planning retirement in Japan
If either I never get a real opportunity to move out of the Christian Republic of Arizona or if the US gets that much more of a facist and dangerous place to live. It seems like everyday I find a reason amongst my fellow citizens to be ashamed of this country that I was once so proud to live in.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:42 AM
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3. Nobody sends me this SHIT more than twice.
The first time, I figure it's an oversight, a mistake, and everybody makes mistakes. I refer them to and reject the sentiments in the mail in certain and unflattering terms. Most people do not repeat the mistake.

If someone does, it's no longer a mistake but the beginning of a bad habit. Their email is then blocked. No exceptions. If they need to get in touch with me, they can pick up the phone, send me snail mail, or even send a fax. Oddly enough, none of them has ever needed to do that. Once they know I've blocked the hate, they no longer have anything to say.

I realize this may be problematic in a work setting, but sometimes it's necessary there, too. If called on the carpet, just explain your inbox has been cluttered with unwanted political and religious solicitations and name the offender. It will stop.

Yes, this country has its share of assholes, and the disease of dumbfuckery seems to be contagious. The way to stop it is to recognize it's not yet universal and to stand firm against it.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:43 AM
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4. Reply all is a beautiful thing.
Nail them with the truth.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:44 AM
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5. There are already brazillions of alligators in So Texas.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:49 AM
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6. Not to mention that dams in New Mexico keep the river dry through Texas
It generally disappears into the sand before it even reaches the Gulf of Mexico...
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:51 AM
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7. Now, now
You can't judge a nation by a few idiots. I have a cousin in England and one in NZ and they send me the same kind of crap.

Unfortunately, idiots are everywhere.
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 11:44 AM
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8. The solution to these emails
Send a message back to EVERYONE the email has been forwarded to, even the ones whose addresses are buried in the message. The message states:

Dear (person who sent the email to you),

Please stop sending me these hate filled, racist lies masquarading as new items or "jokes". Nobody but an imbecile thinks they're either funny or true.

Also, before believing any of this talk-radio bullshit, please visit and educate yourself not only on the falsehoods stated in this email, but on the concept of empty rhetoric in support of a vacant, morally bankrupt cause.

Thank you.
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