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RoadRunner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:01 PM
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OFFICIAL TRUTHOUT/LEOPOLD/ROVE THREAD #8

We are instructing the moderators to lock all threads about Jason Leopold and his Rove indictment story. If you wish to continue discussing this issue, you may do so here.

When this thread reaches approximately 100 replies, the moderators will lock it and open a new one.

Thank you for your understanding.

Skinner
DU Admin


Thread 7 is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1229549&mesg_id=1229549
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:02 PM
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1. We Stand With You Will, Jason and Truthout!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Thu May-18-06 08:03 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
:yourock:
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
40. can I stand by you when you fall?
Yes, I will.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #40
52. .
:rofl:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #40
74. *no profile*
:puke:
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #74
76. what are you looking for. I can lie.
Just being me would be excruciatingly boring.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #76
98. and I don't bother with looking up profiles.
what I see here is what I get, in words. direct.

my profile is what I say here.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #76
101. Well... Obviously, You Are In Such A Position Of Importance, That...
you would be seriously compromised if anyone were to find your real identity here.

I wish you luck, and... your secret is safe with me.

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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #101
110. my secret life ....
Edited on Thu May-18-06 09:41 PM by Jigarotta
unrevealed to you.
I don't think you want the yards of explaination of 'my identity', it is complex and wordy. How does one summarize their whole life for questioners that you have one?

I'm not secret, nor compromised. I just don't have any need to explain anything to you just cuz you ask... mmmkay?

btw, what's your PIN number?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #110
117. You're Star Jones,
aren't you?

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #117
128. I think I may be
just myself, wrapped up with Selfishness!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #128
143. And all that extra flesh,a
and that INCREDIBLY HOT hubby.

Hubba hubba.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #110
131. PIN # = 3924 !!!
Hope that helps!

:rofl::hi::rofl:
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #131
138. yes, it will. I need more smokes. Thankyou! nt
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #101
136. thank you for telling me I'm important.
I only think that in my small tribal personal cycle. and sometimes that's a challenge.

in this flotsam useless inhumanity. should I kick your ass or hug you?

i think you would rather have a hug. we all do.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #136
142. Not me
You may, however, kiss my ring.



First, though, let's have a swipe over those lips with this little alcohol pad. OK?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
49. Kick!

Give Mommy a Kiss....."
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:59 PM
Original message
And, And, And... Can I Have Your Baby?
You're my knight in shining armor! (Swoon!) My hero! Please notice me, because I worship you! :eyes:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:06 PM
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68. We can share the women, we can share the wine.
We can share what we got of yours cause we done shared all of mine.
Keep on rollin, just a mile to go
Keep on rollin my old buddy, you're movin much too slow.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #68
121. Ooph!
:rofl:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:04 PM
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2. Unless Rove's been indicted eight times, there's no excuse for this.
Edited on Thu May-18-06 08:05 PM by Inland
How much crap can you post when NOTHING HAPPENS.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Just stop reading. We're not making you come in here.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. And the answer to my question is, just that much more. nt
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Is there a Cliff Notes version?
:popcorn: :hi:
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. yes, Rove was not indicted
You get an A.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #13
44. Answer key to test question: "How will Rove spin his own indictment?"
This is it!

Gold star back atcha. :hi:
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Why did they delete your other post?
I was reading the bottom about Will's shared impatience...

Hang in there!

I've been lurking since home from work.

Crazy.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. Wish I knew. Didn't insult anyone.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. Ok. It's a fair reason: Madsen is unreliable. No prob. I get it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #2
17. Hope Springs Eternal...and there's so much hope it keeps going on...
So, these threads are a good outlet for that...

How can I complain with my "sig line." :shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:05 PM
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3. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. For What It's Worth... There's something happenin' here...
what it is isn't exactly clear.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. No, no, no
We're staying with "Blue Moon."

Soundtrack - "A Bronx Tale - mandatory.

With celery salt.

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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. Blue Moon lyrics. It's been Years since I've paid attention.
Blue Moon
You saw me standing alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
Blue Moon
You know just what I was there for
You heard me saying a prayer for
Someone I really could care for

And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked to the Moon it turned to gold

Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own

And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold

Blue moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own

Blue moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Seriously,
the version on the soundtrack of "A Bronx Tale" is the most amazing thing I've ever heard - starts with the original, and then segues into an updated version, different group, with the most amazing harmonies you've ever heard.

I'll be quiet now.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
43. oiy, now I have to go shopping. I hate shopping. nt
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #43
64. Check your PMs
and wear that trenchcoat I like so much.

Bring ciggies.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #24
119. cant stand it anymore
keep clicking on DOJ web site. . . looking for anything. . I don't think I could do this another week.

if nuttin happens tomorrow.. . that'll just suck.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #9
51. After all I've done for you you're throwing "I Love Onions" away?
This cuts me.

Deep.



I don't like snails or toads or frogs
Or strange things living under logs
But mmm, I love onions!

I don't like to dance with Crazy Ted
He's always jumping on my head
But mmm, I love onions!

Onions, onions, la-la-la!
Onions, onions, ha-ha-ha!
Root doot doot-doot, doot doot doot!

Onions, onions, la-la-la!
Onions, onions, ha-ha-ha!
Root doot doot-doot, doot doot doot!

I don't like rain or snow or hail
Or Moby Dick the Great White Whale
But mmm, I love onions!

I don't like shoes that pinch your toes
Or people who squirt you with a garden hose
But mmm, I love onions!

Onions, onions, la-la-la!
Onions, onions, ha-ha-ha!
Root doot doot-doot, doot doot doot!

Onions, onions, la-la-la!
Onions, onions, ha-ha-ha!
Root doot doot-doot, doot doot doot!

SPOKEN: Onion is a tuberous vegetable, and is a member of the genus
Stinkus Delicioso. It was highly prized by the ancient Egyptian
pharaohs and their friends and cousins. It causes watering of the
eyes and rubifaction of the skin, but it is very, very tasty.

Onions, onions, la-la-la!
Onions, onions, ha-ha-ha!
Root doot doot-doot, doot doot doot!

Onions, onions, la-la-la!
Onions, onions, ha-ha-ha!
Root doot doot-doot, doot doot doot!

How vewy, vewy cwood.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #51
94. Are you kidding?
Wanna see my Vidalias, sailor?

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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. there's a man with a gun over there...
Edited on Thu May-18-06 08:11 PM by radio4progressives
tellin me, i've got to beware...

it's time we stopped hey, what's that sound?

everybody look what's going down ...
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. yah, dude. One of my all time faves.
There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #14
125. LMAO...
Oh, you're serious, oops. :) MKJ
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
16. You gotta stop, children
what's that sound, everybody look...
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #16
66. oh yeah.. i keep forgetting we were all just kids .. (or teens in my case)
:hi: i don't know why i keep forgetting the "children" ... must be my more mature age ;)
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #66
70. You say you want a revolution? eom
:hi:
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:10 PM
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10. Keeping hope that tomorrow is the day!
FROG MARCH!
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Frog march won't happen tomorrow....
Rove will be in Chicago to attend a couple of repuke fundraisers.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. rove doesnt have to be in DC
however, if memory serves the GJ convenes on weds and fridays so my money is on Fitz being in DC and that's what counts...
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #18
31. He doesn't have to be in DC for an indictment to be handed down...
but he has to be there for the perp walk.

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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! n/t
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #36
42. Perhaps I am humor challenged (and which is rare)
But pray tell what you find so funny?

The photo op to which you referred in the term "frog march" requires one's actual physical presence.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #42
72. Sorry, I thought you were being funny...
Edited on Thu May-18-06 09:15 PM by yourguide
correct me if I am wrong but the phrase "frog-marched out of the white house in handcuffs" that joe wilson was referring to meant forcibly going to jail. Even if Rove was in DC tomorrow and an indictment was announced it is unlikely he would be marched anywhere in handcuffs, so I have assumed that everyone's suggestion of tomorrows 'frog march' simply meant indictment.

when an indictment comes down his own lawyers will bring him in and he will be booked, photographed, fingerprinted then likely released on his own recognizance. there will be no 'frog march' for any of these people until they are convicted.

Also to note, Libby's indictment was made official on October 28 but he was not booked, etc until November 3 after he entered an official plea in court.

sorry, I should have taken the term frog march more literally...

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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #72
75. Now I get it....
No, for once in my life, I was not being a smartass. Go figure....
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #75
80. yeah, still...
the idea of a perp walk for rove cracked me up!
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #75
85. I'm not sure what you mean.
but sounds good to me, here, right now. thanks (I think)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #85
90. I don't think much will happen tomorrow...
except that Rove will attend two repuke fundraisers in the Chicago area tomorrow.

At least as far as this story is concerned.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #90
122. much will happen tomorrow...
whether we know what the bowels are doing or not. There is always much happening

Amadeus: Soliriai <sp?) too many notes
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #72
100. You underestimate the bloodlust, silly
My god, it just occurred to me.

What if there's no indictment?

I predict a major power failure up and down the East Coast and probably a volcano will go off in the Northwest.

Tsunami in Los Angeles and environs.

Star Jones leaves "The View."

It could happen ..............
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #100
112. LOL
If there is no indictment I for one shall cry. And in your honor I will turn out all of the power all day in my own home to similate the power outtage you described.

And we can all only hope star jones leaves the view regardless of what happens.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #112
114. Pray for "The View,"
although I've never seen the show, i hear things, ya know?

Welcome to DU, by the way. Are you having fun yet?

If not, we have a tickle machine in the basement.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #114
130. LOL - thanks for the welcome...
I haven't seen the View either...but I have seen Star Jones, enough said.

I am having fun, after already fending off some beastly rude poster last night I feel like I am here, standing my own, and enjoying the debate.

And by the way, that tickle machine sounds ghastly!

thanks!

P
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #100
129. OLL, you are the ultimate cynic. So why are you here?
You could offer sharply cynical non sequitors to either FR or DU.

Why do we at DU get that exclusive honor? MKJ
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #129
140. Cynic?
No, I'm hardly cynical. What an odd characterization you make on the basis of posts on a message board. Interesting.

I could do whatever I please. Does that trouble you? Obviously, it does.

So, my question to you is this: does your passive-aggressive behavior serve you well in life, or do you just keep nipping at heels like you did here?

You don't have to answer that one. I know, I know. It's hard werk.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #140
148. I have yet to see a single post from you that aligns with the
mission statement for this community:

Democratic Underground (DU) was founded on Inauguration Day, January 20, 2001, to protest the illegitimate presidency of George W. Bush and to provide a resource for the exchange and dissemination of liberal and progressive ideas


Now, being you, you may scoff at this. It's the thing that you do.

However, over many months of seeing your posts in various threads, I've never seen you take a stand consistent with the view of most DU'ers.

You're ready with the "zinger" and the cynical remark. However, I've yet to see anything substantial from you about the many issues that brought the majority of us to DU.

So, if your response continues to be name calling or questioning my character, so be it.

MKJ
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #148
149. So?
I didn't call anyone a cynic, did I?

You don't like my opinions, don't read them.

Ignore me.

There.

Feel better?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #42
97. It also requires handcuffs,
which won't be used.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #97
105. correct again leftie... n/t
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #15
46. no media warnings for tomorrow from Fitz's office
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #46
67. Scooter Media Warning came on the morning of the same day EOM
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
61. frog legs really taste like chicken, nt
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #61
104. Not to chickens, they don't............
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:21 PM
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20. This is Pitiful...They've thrown us in a NUTBAG thread.....
Skinner must be building a special "padded" discussion forum in the dungeon for us.....
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #20
55. Yep, and I completely understand why they did it...
... The number of new threads opened up on this topic (from many viewpoints) in the last 6 days has been huge. It seems that many people want to be the OP rather than comment on an existing thread. A lot of these threads have made their way to the Greatest list too. I can understand if DUers who don't care about this topic wouldn't like that.

I also think that given the sometimes incendiary, insulting and profane posts on those threads the modmins would like to contain them in one thread to make the mopping up much easier. I imagine them thinking: "Good. Having them all in one place will make things easier for me."
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #55
77. "Good. Having them all in one place will make things easier for me."
:rofl:

Now, WHERE have I heard that before?


:hi:

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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #77
124. Thanks for noticing. ;-) n/t
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #20
59. I like it. It's like a real free speech zone. n/t
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:23 PM
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22. THREAD #7 WAS WAY BETTER! N/T
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. LOL n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #22
107. I'm partial to Thread 4 myself
It's like Old School Hip Hop at this point. ;-)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:24 PM
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23. Supposed to be a W. Pitt quote from Justaintright. Are they reliable?
http://justaintright.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_justaintright_archive.html
From The Just aint right site:

This (supposedly) is a quote from William Pitt, Leopold's editor:

Those who have stood with truthout are owed a massive river of thanks. Your faith will be rewarded.

William Pitt:
"Those who have expressed doubts, and await further confirmation, are totally above reproach. If I didn't know what I know, if I was a DUer out of the fact loop truthout has been in, I'd be doing and saying exactly the same things. <...> truthout was right on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, yesterday and today. We will still be right tomorrow and Friday, no matter what the goddam unbelievable lapdog mainstream media has to say (or more to the point, doesn't have to say) about it.

I understand your frustrations at the way this has played out; in fact, I call your frustration and raise it a billionfold. There are good reasons for this, and those reasons will be made clear when everything comes out. Those good reasons haven't made the process easier."



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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. He Posted That HERE LOL (link below)
Edited on Thu May-18-06 08:26 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. I saw that posted here at DU
by Will himself. Didn't click on the link but the quote seems to be correct.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. My personal view of blogs
is that they're little more than someone's diary, and worthless in terms of content, veracity, reliability, or verification.

Other than that, they're really neat..............
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #29
65. I'm still flipping through my dicktionary on what journalism is
and what just someone decides to say, deciding all along what the bias is.

I know I know,

lost world.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. Not necessarily lost,
but completely beyond accountability.

That's what must always be remembered.

Now, about that trench coat ..............
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #71
83. I've learned to coat myself in trench.
I don't fit. and it's Lovely.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #65
123. It's inspiring to watch you continue to plumb the depths
of truth :hi: MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
150. So why are you here? n/t
MKJ
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
27. Serious question....are you all retired? How can basically the same
posters keep this discussion going? I watched the first thread with some interest...and then skip forward 24 hours and see thread #8...no new info..not many new perspectives...mostly the same posters...mostly the same arguments...I don't mean to incite a riot but really wonder how people have this much time on their hands. Really, isn't there anything more pressing in your life?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. Some people live in wired worlds,
and I'm one of them. I have internet access at my fingertips all the time, and checking in here is always enlightening.

Plus, I type really fast and think even faster.

Let's see - pressing in my life?

Well, until we clean the dried blood out of the duck press, that's not gonna get used.

The housekeeper picked up the cleaning already.

Nobody's hair has frizzed up, so there's no need to get out the iron and press it.

But, I do appear to be out of sealing wax, so perhaps it's a good time to replenish the supply and then I can press my personal monogram onto the letters I have to write.

Thanks for reminding me ------------------------------------------------------->
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #32
147. And speaking of sealing wax...
The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings.

-----------------------------

My apologies, Old Leftie Lawyer for jumping into your post...but you just prompted my favorite line.

:toast:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #147
151. One of mine, too,
but I always end up hungry for oysters.

And then the guilt begins ........

Good one.

(Pssst. It's a message board - never apologize for jumping in - especially with something this delicious.)



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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. Alrighty then
#9 here we come! :popcorn:
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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. That's a codependent statement. Why do you care if we
discuss this?
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. I don't know about everyone else here
Edited on Thu May-18-06 08:36 PM by titoresque
but I'm a paid protester. This is an internet "sit-in"
Just sit'n back and stack'n my cash. ;)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #27
38. I'm amazed, too. Maybe it goes back to when Will was drunk and called
us all "Cretins," and worse. I guess he thought we were kind of clueless idiots, too for bothering with the "Fitz Watch" this long. :shrug:

Poor guy...I know he was stressed and had a few pints too many but calling his fellow DU'ers Cretins and taking credit for outing all the Repug Trolls here on DU kind of makes one wonder what he thinks of all these threads.

Let's hope he takes this support gracefully because he certainly hasn't been let down by us DU "Cretins" since he posted: "ROVE INDICTED" here.

We've tried to stay with him and hope that tomorrow he will be vindicated.

Then he can applaud all of us for our efforts in having faith, hope and charity. :shrug:
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. I missed that one
were we cretins pre-"ROVE INDICTED" or after?
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. fuckwits as well!
let's put that on our resumelessness, see as The Will said so.


hahahahahah!
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #50
57. Fuckwit? Really?
damn I missed it! Pre or post "ROVE INDICTED" ?

It really doesn't matter I guess but I am curious.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #57
63. yes, and with a smattering of 'cretin'.
feel seasoned enough?
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #38
144. whose to be vindicated? Rove or Will?
hahahahhahahahh!
o man, I can't speeeeeack....
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #27
45. What an asinine question.
I haven't been posting in all these threads, but I've been reading them. And seeing this I just had to say something. You know, personally, I spend a lot of time on DU. And guess what. I'm a housewife. I don't need to spend all day cleaning what's already clean. I don't watch tv because it makes me apathetic. There's not a whole lot to do in my town, and I'm kind of a hermit. Because I have some serious social anxiety issues. So yeah, I spend a lot of time on here. What the hell is the harm in some people happening to be online a lot? Like I said, what an asinine question. You feel good about yourself? How insulting. I doubt you "really wonder".
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #27
58. I build furniture for a living
The shop is attached to the house.

When I get tired of sawdust I come here.

When I get tired of here I go there.

There ya go.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #58
82. thank you DancingBear for a succinct and honest reply...
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #82
103. What?!
You don't believe I'm a paid protester? It's better that way anyhow. ;)
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #103
120. ok, I believe you...I just hope you get paid by the # of replies/thread..
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #27
62. Sorry for the condescending answers you're getting.
We're not all like that. Really.

To answer your question, no, some people do not have anything more pressing than to rehash the same arguments for days on end. Amazingly, this was already going on for several days prior to these "official" threads.

The vehemence and persistence of those on both sides of this argument have been pretty astounding. Let's hope we can focus that kind of energy on stuff that really matters, like winning back Congress this fall.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #62
84. Agreed...thank you.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #84
92. If you ask,
and you get an answer you don't like, does a tree fall in the forest, or was Bishop Berkeley just a pissy little whiner?

Just wondering.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #92
99. geez, I just don't want to argue...and I don't know what a duck press is..
:shrug:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #99
109. WHAT???????????
Oh, you poor, deprived, darling child!!!! How good that you found your way here!!!

This - http://www.villagekitchen.com/mfg/matfer/ktool/duck/duck.html - is a duck press. It is a remarkable contraption, used by foodies to prepare duck in a slender variety of ways.

If you know the right people, you can get one as a wedding gift. Especially if your aunt who moved to France during WWII so that she could "kill those fucking Nazis" thinks you have to have one.

See what you learn at DU?
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #109
126. wow...I definitely don't know the right people..what do you do with
the meat that's left in the press?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #126
137. We've had some seances,
trying to find out what it wants us to do, but no luck so far.

Actually, it does a marvelous job, but it's exhausting. The dishes we've fixed over the years, though, have been worth it.

Damn thing weighs a ton, too.

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #62
89. You're wired, too,
I can tell.

Your sanctimony is exceeded only by your startling remora imitation.

So, come here often, sugar?
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #62
96. Or better yet...
.....votes that will actually count toward the candidate you vote for.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #96
132. no kidding..
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:28 PM
Response to Original message
30. I'm patiently waiting for this to happen.
As I'm sure everyone is, I'm a bit disappointed that it didn't happen right away but we do know it's coming at some point. Rove couldn't possibly have told the truth.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. How do you know "it's coming at some point"?
Really?

How do you know this?

What if nothing happens?

What then?

Seriously, though, I'm curious that you know this. How?
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. I'd say the probability is high...
1) 5 Times for pig fuck to the Grand Jury

2) mentioned as "Official A" in Libby indictment (as reported by MSM)

3) Schuster from MSNBC researched and stated that in each of Fitzgerald's cases, "Official A" has been indicted.





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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #39
69. Oh, now you're backing away from what you said
You said "know."

That's a world of different from "I heard it on MSNBC and I believe everything I hear anywhere."

So, you don't know, but you think it will because a TV guy said this is how it works. Hey, if that's what floats your boat ......

Well, if Karl Rove being indicted will help to heal the damage I've witnessed this past week, then I hope he's indicted. But, somehow, I don't think it's going to change a damn thing in any lives, except for the Rove family, and what will happen to all that counterproductive bloodlust that's bloodied these waters lately, I wonder?

Thanks for the response. I thought you were really onto something, and that would have meant that Patrick Fitzgerald's operation had - for the first time ever - sprung a leak. Now, I know that you watch MSNBC and believe what they say.

Faith is good.

Intelligent discernment is better.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #69
118. no backing away, that's somebody else. need specs? hearing aide maybe?
can't tell a beatle from a slayer anymore? or the TV from blogs or reporters from editors........
things getting a little fuzzy, huh? it happens.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #69
141. What Are You Even Talking About?
Maybe you posted in the wrong place?

You are way off base with that post responding to me.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Peace.



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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #35
93. I noticed you being annoying in a few other threads.
So I'm not going to play your game. However, I will continue to be amazed by the amount of people who will.

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #93
113. Well, if you lack wit and style,
then amazed is a good substitute.

Ah, tolerance and the good old liberal way - you do so shine with it.

And, nice shot at people with whom you disagree. That was cheap and, really, I know you didn't mean to insult them.

You meant to insult me.

But, you made me laugh instead.

I hope you feel better now, poor baby.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
47. Wow, 8 threads on this?
Fascinating.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #47
53. My dog finds shadows fascinating.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #47
54. Yeah, and Most are Insults
and flamebait.... it's a free-for-all.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #47
60. Hell, we're not even finished with the appetizers yet
We can do 25 threads easy by the time the entree gets here.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #47
79. It's like a pep rally. Or a candlelight vigil.
Or something. ;)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #79
87. Right now it's getting to look like a "Death Watch..."
but..we need to keep our spirits up. It still could happen.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
48. Interesting article about Leopold
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #48
56. ironic
it appears he has dumped an entire truckload of dirt on himself now
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #48
86. Oh, beautiful
Well, that pretty much puts it in the proper perspective, doesn't it?

The only thing more disturbing than this man's instability and pathologies is the notion that anyone would trust him with the truth.

Thanks.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:10 PM
Response to Original message
73. Leopold spilled the beans on CHENEY, AQ KHAN and PAKISTAN H-BOMB...
Good reporters make mistakes. Ask Hersh about Marilyn Monroe sometime.

Regarding Leopold, how quickly we forget...



The Veep and Pakistan

Cheney Helped Cover-Up Nuclear Proliferation in 1989, So Pentagon Could Sell Pakistan Fighter Jets


By JASON LEOPOLD
COUNTERPUNCH March 8, 2004

When news of Pakistan's clandestine program involving its top nuclear scientist selling rogue nations, such as Iran and North Korea, blueprints for building an atomic bomb was uncovered last month, the world's leaders waited, with baited breath, to see what type of punishment President Bush would bestow upon Pakistan's President Pervez Musharaff.

Bush has, after all, spent his entire term in office talking tough about countries and dictators that conceal weapons of mass destruction and even tougher on individuals who supply rogue nations and terrorists with the means to build WMDs. For all intents and purposes, Pakistan and Musharraf fit that description.

Remember, Bush accused Iraq of harboring a cache of WMDs, which was the primary reason the United States launched a preemptive strike there a year ago, and also claimed that Iraq may have given its WMDs to al-Qaeda terrorists and/or Syria, weapons that, Bush said, could be used to attack the U.S.

Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and top members of the administration reacted with shock when they found out that Abdul Qadeer Khan, Pakistan's top nuclear scientist, spent the past 15 years selling outlaw nations nuclear technology and equipment. So it was sort of a surprise when Bush, upon finding out about Khan's proliferation of nuclear technology, let Pakistan off with a slap on the wrist. But it was all an act. In fact, it was actually a cover-up designed to shield Cheney because he knew about the proliferation for more than a decade and did nothing to stop it.

Like the terrorist attacks on 9-11, the Bush administration had mountains of evidence on Pakistan's sales of nuclear technology and equipment to nations vilified by the U.S._nations that are considered much more of a threat than Iraq_but turned a blind eye to the threat and allowed it to happen.

In 1989, the year Khan first started selling nuclear secrets on the black-market; Richard Barlow, a young intelligence analyst working for the Pentagon prepared a shocking report for Cheney, who was then working as Secretary of Defense under the first President Bush administration: Pakistan built an atomic bomb and was selling its nuclear equipment to countries the U.S. said was sponsoring terrorism.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/leopold03082004.html



Nobody's perfect. Leopold got a lot of the above from other reporters' work, including Hersh. And lots above is Leopold's own, as well. That news gets borrowed and used as the basis for other articles. That's how the game is played. We stand on each other's shoulders. And the Truth emerges.

Wonder what ever happened to Barlow?

PSYCHO NAZI
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:18 PM
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78. Hey Octafish...
I'm just rockin' and waitin'. No stress here. He's done enough good work to see this thing all the way through.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:31 PM
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91. Hi, annabanana! Remember who told us about NSA spying prior to 9-11?
Good to read you! Thank you for stating what you think.

In reality, I don't mind people disagreeing with the guy. That's how we learn what's what and what isn't.

What's strange to me is the sheer volume of venom directed toward the guy -- just because one article didn't turn out like he thought he would.

My concern is we'll forget about all the times Leopold's been correct.

Here's another:



From Your Mouth to His Ears

How Cheney Used the NSA for Domestic Spying Prior to 9/11


By JASON LEOPOLD
COUNTERPUNCH January 20, 2006

In the months before 9/11, thousands of American citizens were inadvertently swept up in wiretaps, had their emails monitored, and were being watched as they surfed the Internet by spies at the super-secret National Security Agency, former NSA and counterterrorism officials said.

The NSA, with full knowledge of the White House, crossed the line from routine surveillance of foreigners and suspected terrorists into illegal activity by continuing to monitor the international telephone calls and emails of Americans without a court order. The NSA unintentionally intercepts Americans' phone calls and emails if the agency's computers zero in on a specific keyword used in the communication. But once the NSA figures out that they are listening in on an American, the eavesdropping is supposed to immediately end, and the identity of the individual is supposed to be deleted. While the agency did follow protocol, there were instances when the NSA was instructed to keep tabs on certain individuals that became of interest to some officials in the White House.

What sets this type of operation apart from the unprecedented covert domestic spying activities the NSA had been conducting after 9/11 is a top secret executive order signed by President Bush in 2002 authorizing the NSA to target specific American citizens. Prior to 9/11, American citizens were the subject of non-specific surveillance by the NSA that was condoned and approved by President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, according to former NSA and counterterrorism officials.

The sources, who requested anonymity because they were instructed not to talk about NSA activities but who hope they can testify before Congress about the domestic spying, said that in December 2000, the NSA completed a report for the incoming administration titled "Transition 2001," which explained, among other things, how the NSA would improve its intelligence gathering capabilities by hiring additional personnel.

Moreover, in a warning to the incoming administration, the agency said that in its quest to compete on a technological level with terrorists who have access to state-of-the-art equipment, some American citizens would get caught up in the NSA's surveillance activities. However, in those instances, the identities of the Americans who made telephone calls overseas would be "minimized," one former NSA official said, in order to conceal the identity of the American citizen picked up on a wiretap.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/leopold01202006.html



Gee. The guy's kicked the BFEE square in the pants lots of times. So why are so many DUers -- many with a 1,000 posts -- so quick to smear Leopold?

WARMONKEY
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:52 PM
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127. "sheer volume of venom directed toward the guy"
If you look, all that venom is coming from a very small group of people. I have a feeling that something more is going on here.
I have my theory, but I will keep it to myself.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:06 PM
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139. Bubbling up, just like most toxins. n/t
MKJ
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:22 PM
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81. #7 was SO much better than this one. I will pine for that thread
forever.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:29 PM
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88. As IF!
You didn't see #5?

It was art.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:36 PM
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106. ...
:spray:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #106
115. Soon, soon
HAHAHAHAHHAA!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:35 PM
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102. I've got high hopes for Thread #9.....
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:32 PM
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95. Hey, I just washed the dishes and... sorry, thought this was the Lounge
Actually, I like the way these threads have become so Lounge-y tonight. Beats hell out of everything else this topic has elicited this week. Other than my thread, of course.;-)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:38 PM
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108. Hey! Where'd you get that graphic?


I want one, too.

It's a great, um, inspirational tool.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:46 PM
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116. I made it
I like yours better. Looking at these four thugs everytime I post is beginning to make me queasy.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:40 PM
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111. Shhhhhhhh! They don't know yet..he-he
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:55 PM
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133. Oh please god let this be the very last thread before a new #9 is started.
:sarcasm:

MZr7
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:57 PM
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134. how do we link to the other threads before this one?
Edited on Thu May-18-06 09:57 PM by Blue_Roses
There is no link to thread #6 from thread #7.:shrug:
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:00 PM
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135. Oh damn you... why could you not give me the satisfaction
Edited on Thu May-18-06 10:02 PM by MazeRat7
of posting the very last thread in #8... Noooooo you had to go and post after me making your thread last...

You are a mole....thats it... a mole I declare for all to hear!!!!

(Ok.. so I am teasing and considering I don't know you.. I hope you wont take it personally... Mostly I am just funning about with all this... sorry you happend to post when you did :) )

MZr7
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #134
145. Why?
There's nothing in them worth reading.

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:15 PM
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146. Found this at FDL - Could Not Find at TPM
Heres the TPM piece:

Truthout Editor: I Know and Speak With Leopolds Secret Rove Sources
By Justin Rood - May 18, 2006, 3:55 PM
I spoke with Marc Ash yesterday - hes the Executive Director of Truthout.org, and the editor whos been working with Jason Leopold on his stories about how Bush adviser Karl Rove has been indicted; that Rove privately told President Bush he would be resigning; and that Fitzgerald met with Roves lawyer for 15 hours last Friday.

Leopolds stories were long received with silence from both the mainstream and alternative press; as the days go by and no indictment has been forthcoming, what coverage has emerged has been questioning, if not derisive, about Truthouts coverage.

Truthout and Ash have stood by Leopolds reporting. Relying as he does almost completely on anonymous sources, I wondered if Leopold shared his sources identities with his editor. So I asked Ash if he knew the identities of Leopolds sources. I do, he told me. Have you spoken with any of them? I have, Ash said. I work with Jason on all sourcing, on all of his pieces, prior to publication.

Keeping an editor in the loop on the identities of confidential sources helps ensure reporters dont make up sources out of whole cloth which some have come close to accusing Leopold of doing for these stories. Its not a foolproof safeguard serial fabricator Steven Glass found ways around the practice (for a time) at The New Republic. But it helps, if only by staking two more reputations Ashs and Truthout.orgs on Leopolds reporting.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/18/a-coward-dies-a-thousand-deaths/#comments

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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:21 PM
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152. BYRON YORK DEBUNKS MADSEN ARTICLE
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:23 PM
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153. Locking
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