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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:26 AM
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What happened to Crooks and Liars dot com?
Sorry if this has been answered.
I didn't see it posted yet.

What happened and where can we go for clips now?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:30 AM
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1. I was wondering that myself!
n/t
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:38 AM
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2. I was thinking...
just the other day, I was thinking about all the copyright issues he would have to face for providing the reality-based crowd with such an invaluable digest of, well, crooks and liars!

Maybe the shoe dropped?

Tut-tut
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ru4truth Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:39 AM
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3. Seems to be hijacked
I keep getting redirected to a different website too.  
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:10 PM
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19. Hi ru4truth!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:40 AM
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4. uh oh ...................... n/t
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:40 AM
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5. Works for me
Looks as it always does. What are you seeing?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:42 AM
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6. ZIASPACE Music Developing n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:45 AM
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7. seems to be ok now
but earlier, it was very odd
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:51 AM
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8. not for me
I tried refresh and still get ZIA

Tut-tut
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:56 AM
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9. I get zia space as well............
Edited on Thu May-18-06 06:58 AM by dogday
on edit their feed at bushwatch is not working either....
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:27 AM
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10. stock up on these, for now...
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:28 AM
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11. Probably not hicjacked. Probably a hosting error or billing issue.
This kind of thing happens pretty frequently.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:35 AM
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12. Except most hosting companies use
their own domain not someone elses to sell their services.. Even if there is a dispute on the server, the domain name should belong to crooks and liars and cannot be used for the server... Usually a 404 page is installed...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:21 AM
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15. maybe they're subletting for a while?
n/t
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mim Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:00 AM
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13. I just e-mailed the ZiaSpace contact people.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:19 AM
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14. I just checked C&R
What's up?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:27 AM
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16. I followed their shopping cart and
this is the paypal email address:


[email protected]
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:41 AM
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17. WHOIS at networkSolutions.com shows...
...that the domain owner registered two ziaspace.com servers as authoritative:

Registrant:
4066 1/2 Lyceum St

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: CROOKSANDLIARS.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
LAIN.ZIASPACE.COM
ANDROMEDA.ZIASPACE.COM
REVA.SIXGIRLS.ORG

An A record lookup at DNSStuff.com shows those authoritative servers coughing up an IP address.


That IP shows up in the trace from another company's route server. The IP belongs to Cogent, and that's where the trace ends up:


9 p12-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.101) 15.836 ms 15.736 ms 15.878 ms
10 g49.ba01.b006573-1.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.8.138) 16.013 ms 15.924 ms 18.578 ms
11 optic-lax.atlas.demarc.cogentco.com (38.99.213.194) 17.497 ms 17.175 ms 17.293 ms
12 lain.ziaspace.com (38.98.18.103) 15.835 ms 15.809 ms 15.905 ms

I think that the hosting company has screwed up the site. It may be that they are a brand-new host, and the domain owners simply haven't uploaded the site to them.

One of the authoritative servers, in fact, is also acting as the "www" host.
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Quiet_Dem_Mom Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 11:23 AM
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18. Back up now...server malfunction, according to C&L site
From site:

Server malfunction

I'll tell you about it later, but there was a computer malfunction that caused the website to go down...


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mim Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:43 PM
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20. Reply from ZiaSpace
Here is the reply I got to my e-mail:

This is a formal apology from ZiaSpace.com/hosting.

Ziaspace.com Hosting is the hosting service for Crooks and Liars and
they
are one of our most valued clients! We want to formally apologize to
all
Crooks and Liars viewers for the site being redirected to our main site
last night. Below is the explanation.

crooksandliars.com
you are seeing what is cached. Try clearing your browser's cache and
reloading a few times. For Mozilla users, go into tools, then options,
then privacy, then click on the cahe button, then hit clear cache.]

After some bad storms hit Florida recently, the main server we were
hosting C&L from got water damage. (Our main servers are in NYC and LA
but
we had set up a separate server in Florida for C&L due to their heavy
traffic needs.) So since Monday, C&L had been running off of back up
servers. We wanted to make one of the backups more like a permanent
server
until we could get the Florida server up and running again. However,
the
virtualhost entry had a typo, which means that all of the traffic to
that
IP was not being handled by the crooksandliars virtualhost and instead
went to the default website - ziaspace.com. The typo was entirely our
fault and we want to formally apologize to all Crooks and Liars viewers
that arrived at our website.

Again, our sincerest apologies, and if you are still seeing
ziaspace.com,
you simply need to clear the cache in your browser and reload.

Please enjoy http://www.crooksandliars.com again!

-Elaine

Elaine Walker
ZiaSpace Hosting
http://www.ziaspace.com/hosting


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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:45 PM
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21. Thanks.. cleared my cache and they are back up!! n/t
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