Remember that border gates can be used to keep people from leaving

[shance]

as much as they can be used to keep people from coming into our country.

It's time to put all the pieces together - from 9-11 onward.

[cassiepriam]

Bingo, that is the next step. None of us can leave.

Remember the Berlin Wall?? Armed guards, concentration camps?

[meganmonkey]

1. Ain't that the truth

Truth is hard to find though.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. That's just what I've been thinking.

All this talk of building huge fences and placing military people along the borders has been creeping me out. How much longer before the same methods are being used to keep people from leaving, like the Berlin Wall? And if they have the technology in place to produce tamper-proof biometric IDs for the immigrants, when will they require them for us, too?

A bit tinfoil-hattish, perhaps?

Maybe so -- but is the question whether we are too paranoid, or is it whether we aren't paranoid enough?

[Clovis Sangrail]

3. I said this to my SO

I think I was dismissed as a loon, but hey... I call 'em as I see 'em.

It looks to me like this is more to keep us IN then keep them OUT

[hopeisaplace]

4. Like in "The Day After Tomorrow"...when hell froze over

and people needed to head into Mexico:shrug:

[Conker]

5. OMG.I never thought of it that way.The U.S. is turning so fascist.

[Acadia Blue]

6. I am sure they have been looking at passports and visas for a long time

[shance]

7. kick

n/t

[meganmonkey]

8. Sometimes I think

people don't want to know the truth. I guess it's easier that way.

[shance]

12. In the long road its not though. It's easier for me to eat a large pizza

in the middle of the night and forget about the cholesterol and calories, but the reality is if I continue doing that, no matter how much I deny I'm doing it, I can't escape the reality that Im going to reap the consequences of my actions....no matter how much I deny the truth, being the image that is expanding in my mirror.

[paparush]

9. DING! DING! DING! We Have A Winner!!

NSA tracking phone calls.
NSA maybe tracking mail.
Satellites tracking your movements.
Secret prisons and torture.
Free/Fair Elections rendered obsolete by black box voting.
A Dictator and staff clearly beyond legal reigns.

Tired of it? Fed up? Deciding you want to leave?

TOO FUCKING BAD!!

Get back to work.

That is all.

[shance]

13. So are you a proud member of the Fourth Reich?

Ding!Ding!Ding!

We have a winner!!

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. Why would the government not want people to leave?

:shrug:

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. .

:tinfoilhat:

[shance]

14. Gee Freddie. I don't know why. :::thumbing through history:::::

I mean, I have no idea what all those borders and check points are for in Palestine, Israel, Iraq, East Berlin, West Berlin, Czechoslovakia....but oh riiiiight.....I forgot. That CAN'T happen here, can it?

I mean this is the United States of America?

Right?

Absolutely.

Gee Freddy....its just all a mystery isn't it?

Hmmm......maybe those checkpoints are so they can just stop and talk to people, see how their day is going, what the kids are up to, , how the golf games going, what they're going to fix for dinner......You know, maybe its just to better connect and build lasting, more meaningful relationships with the citizens.

Yeah...that's it.

[LibertyorDeath]

15. Shance you post some of the most perceptive posts on this site

Thanx!

If Negroponti as the Director of National Intelligence isn't a heads up I don't no what is.

Militarizing the borders is just another in many ominous signs sine 9-11

The writing is on the Wall

Rec

[politicat]

16. When I said this two weeks ago, I got laughed at.

I hate I told you so.

Considering how hard it is to leave LEGALLY at this point, I'd hate to have to try to do it illegally. And it's only going to get worse.

The military has been used for a long time on the borders, contrary to what civilians think. There's a reason that there is a string of bases along both borders (the San Diego cluster, Yuma MCAS, Fort Huachuca, White Sands and Cannon AFB, the Texas string, Biloxi, the Florida cluster and across the north: Ft. Lewis, Eielson (Alaska), Grand Forks and Minot... They may not be able to legally *do* much, but they can look threatening and be prepared. And if they happen to fly over the border... well, it's not like there's a red line painted on the ground or anything, right? (One of these days, Canada or Mexico's going to get tired of it and shoot something down...)

They're defensive, even if they claim not to be. If they're within 4 hours' drive of the border, that's why they're there. (Why else put a marine base in Yuma and Twenty-nine Stumps? It's not like it's prime amphibious training territory or backs up on an ocean or anything useful....Cheap land? Like the government doesn't already have access to that?)