Why don't democrats call Cons bluff on Abortion?

[thefloyd]

Really. I think democrats should tell conservatives either stop playing politics with abortion or submit legislation to amend the constitution and outlaw abortion. Why have democrats not done so?

[Erika]

1. I agree 100% - Let the GOP go out there with an abortion ban

and see where it gets them. They are just playing the Fundies for suckers. They want their votes and $ but know damn well if they pay anything other than lip service to them the majority of Americans will throw them out of office.

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Yep

And they do it all the time. They say they are pro-life and this is going to be the time but than they don't do anything about it when they can (like during Reagan) and than blame the mean old democrats and keep spouting it each year. I wish someone like Kennedy, Feingold or even Schumer would call them on their bluff or tell them to shove it.

[TimeChaser]

2. Thank you for gambling with my health and my body

:sarcasm:

[alittlelark]

4. My guess - they KNOW they are out-gunned (Diebold et al)

They are hoping that REALITY washes out the illusions of the sheeple.

It's a scary bet..... most likely a losing one. Reagan did a great job dumbing down our schools.

[AndyTiedye]

5. Because The Rethugs Are Not Bluffing

FILIBUSTER ALITO

[DemBones DemBones]

8. They're hoping SCOTUS will overturn Roe and they won't have

to take the blame.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Or watch and they'll find someway

to blame Clinton. :eyes:

[Erika]

13. Not even the SCOTUS is that stupid

They can talk about law all they want but they know damn well what public opinion is and not one of them want to be cast as holy roller extremist.

[tritsofme]

6. IIRC an abortion banning amendment has been introduced in every

Congress since Roe.

I don't think its ever had any serious traction since the 80s though.

[DemBones DemBones]

7. I don't know why pro-lifers vote for these guys when none of them

will ever address the big pro-life rally held in Washington every January. Reagan and both Bushes have only addressed the rallies by phone (I think George II may have done a "live TV" appearance.) If they really are pro-life, why don't they go out and address the pro-life rallies? Why are they always so conveniently out of town?

Actually, I do know why most pro-lifers vote GOP -- what other choice do they have? It's like us, the Dems aren't doing shit, for the most part, but who else can we vote for?

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Because they believe it

They're told by their preachers or whatever that we're the murdering party and blah blah blah. They fall for it hook, line and sinker. Same thing with gay marriage. They'll never do it either.

[leftstreet]

11. Roe vs Wade is all but dead. People just don't realize it.

http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/yourstate/whodecides/states/index.cfm
 
Click on any State.
Example: Kansas
"96 percent of Kansas counties have no abortion provider"

[Erika]

12. Roe v Wade is all but dead?

Do you see any state trying to introduce an amendment to ban abortions? Other than South Dakota.

[leftstreet]

14. Why would they need to when access is so limited?

:shrug:

The fundies are winning.

[Erika]

15. Access is somewhat limited

No, the Fundies are not winning. The red states are lacking in avaialability but fewer people live there. It's no moral badge on their honor.

[barb162]

17. Several states have been testing this through the years

Now they will win with that Alito conservative

[barb162]

16. It's immaterial now; they'll do it the easy way, Supreme Court

[Erika]

18. No, not even the Supreme Court will have the guts to overrule

Roe v. Wade, regardless of all of their spin. American women are not going back into dark alleys for coathanger jobs. They'll string up the Justices first.

This is NOT the Taliban's America.

[barb162]

19. We shall see. I wish you were right, but I think we have another

month or two before a test case is brought and then legal abortion will be over in this country. The votes are there to do it now. This is a "sort of" Taliban America. They won't go after all rights, but this one they will and very quickly. Did you notice how fast Bush went after environmental law as soon as he became prez? His buddies wanted those trees in the national forests.

[tenshi816]

20. I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the country returns to the pre-Roe v. Wade days, when poor women had to have the baby if they got pregnant, but women with money were able to get their OB-GYN to recommend a D&C for one obscure reason or another (that had nothing to do, goodness no, with the fact that a pregnancy would be terminated in the process :sarcasm:). My mother had a termination that way around 1968, although for the rest of her life she would never call it an abortion.

I believe that because so many people feel it can't happen is why it might. People have become complacent and think that because abortion is legal now, it will always be so. They're the same people who are going to wonder what happened when the rug is snatched out from under them, but it'll be too late then.

I still hope you're right though.