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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:37 AM
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Best moment of Presidency quotes: Carter, Clinton, and Bush
How did President Carter answer the question?

"I think the best time was probably dealing with the Middle East issue at Camp David," he said, "and even better I think was the peace treaty that came along six months later. I made a very difficult decision over the almost unanimous opposition of my cabinet and my staff to take the initiative and to go to Egypt and to go to Israel to try to get Begin and Sadat to agree on a peace treaty. And when they did sign-both of them signed the agreement-I guess that was probably my best moment."

http://www.americanpresident.org/history/jimmycarter/bi...


How did President Clinton answer the question?

JIM LEHRER: As we sit here right now, Mr. President, is this the best moment of your presidency?

PRESIDENT CLINTON: Oh, no, I won't say that. I don't know. So many things have happened here at home that have been important to me; passing economic plan, passing the Brady Bill and assault weapons ban, so many things have happened internationally, the role that I was fortunate to be able to play in the peace process in the Middle East and in Northern Ireland, but this could have the biggest long-term positive consequences if we do it right. But frankly, I hadn't, you know -- Sometimes people say "do you feel vindicated?" The answer is no. I think America has been vindicated. I think what we stand for has been vindicated. But keep in mind that there have been times in the past where people win a conflict and then squander the peace. So a lot of our work is still ahead of us. We've gotta get the people home, get the land mines up, work out the details of who is involved in the peacekeeping mission. We have to get this -- We've got to organize police forces and civil government for the Kosovars. And then the really big thing over the long-run, our European friends want to take the lead in this but we ought to help them, we've got to get the World Bank and all these other people involved in a development plan for the Balkans that involves not just Kosovo, but Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania, and I hope someday Serbia if they have a government that respects freedom and democracy and human rights. So that these people have something pulling them together instead of these ancient ethnic troubles pulling them apart.

Now if we get all that done, it might be perhaps the most satisfying thing because it might prove that people can lay down their hatreds of people who are different. You know, I basically think free people will figure out a way to make the most of their lives and work out their problems if they can get the rules of engagement right. That's why I gave somewhat of an extended answer to what you said about the Republicans. Because, I think, you know, differences are good. Nobody's got the whole truth. But you gotta get the rules of engagement right. And I think what we did in Kosovo was profoundly important.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/europe/jan-june99/clinto...


How did President Bush answer the question?

You know, I've experienced many great moments and it's hard to name the best," Bush told weekly Bild am Sonntag when asked about his high point since becoming president in January 2001.

"I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound (3.402 kilos) perch in my lake," he told the newspaper in an interview published on Sunday.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=t...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:38 AM
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1. "MY" Lake.
:puke:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:46 AM
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6. Well, let's give credit where credit is due....
"Lake" New Orleans/post Katrina :grr:

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:27 PM
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77. That ownership society thingie again.
Tis better to catch a fish in your own lake, than it is to solve world hunger.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:41 AM
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2. i have to agree with shrub
catching that fish probably WAS the best moment of his reign.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:43 AM
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3. You have a point- technically he might be right
Edited on Sun May-07-06 12:02 PM by herbster
It's just the comparison to other Presidents and their accomplishments, compassion, and eloquence that is a bit jarring.

edit: It's also interesting that Carter and Clinton both emphasized "peace" in their responses. Bush is the self-made "War President" and peace just isn't part of his vocabulary anymore.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:59 PM
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35. Nicely said...
Although I would have left off the word "anymore" from your last sentence.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:47 AM
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81. Except he even had to lie about the perch!
The world record is around 4 lbs.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:46 AM
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5. hahahaha!
the perch of course was red, white and blue....
:rofl:
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 08:48 AM
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91. Sadly, there was no need for him to squat in "The People's House"
in order to achieve this incredible accomplishment.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:44 AM
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4. Wow.
The most stunning study in contrasts ever.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:49 AM
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7. Please go fishing
Leave the White House. Admit that the presidency was a big mistake and go fishing.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 12:15 PM
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17. gee, if we had known....
.....back in 2000 that he liked fishing so much, we could have sent him on an 8 yr fishing trip and saved the world a LOT of grief!!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:50 AM
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8. Yet another example of just how shallow dimson is. Surprise! nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:52 AM
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9. Did he really say this? Wow!
What mental capacity that brain of his has? :eyes:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:53 AM
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10. K & R, for the compare and contrast effect. We all know this, but it's
still jarring to see in in black and white. MKJ

:kick:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:54 AM
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11. His presidency has stunk up the country like a rotten fish.
Wait, it has stunk up the world ... x(
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:55 AM
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12. The sad thing is that we aren't even surprised.
You can't even laugh anymore, can you? It's so pathetic and frightening.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:56 AM
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13. All I can do is shake my head in disbelief!
Great post - k/r
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:57 AM
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14. But of course catching a fish was numero uno for Bush.
He got to kill something else.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 12:04 PM
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15. Bush has slapped America in the face with his flip answer
He's sending us an enormous message here folks!
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 12:14 PM
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16. And he's LYING about the size of that perch ROFLMAO
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 12:31 PM
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18. 4lbs. 12 ounces is the world record for Perch. What a dumb ass!
Yellow Perch

Perca flavescens

This species lives in schools in deeper water during the day and is known to move into shallower water at dusk to feed. It is also often harvested commercially in the US and Canada. Yellow perch spawn when the water is between 45 and 52 degrees and don't build nests or guard their young. They have also been known to go into water that contains little or no oxygen for short periods of time to feed on bloodworms.

Yellow Perch World Record is 4lbs 3oz - Bordentown, NJ

White Perch World Record is 4lbs 12oz - Messalonskee Lake, ME
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 12:47 PM
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20. Damn your liberal facts!!!!
:rofl:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:47 PM
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32. It depends on what the definition of "perch" is
The heaviest crappie caught in the US was 5 pounds and change. Crappies are of the order perciformes (which is latin for "shaped like a perch", and is the diagnostic order of perches). The heaviest perch caught in Africa, a Nile perch, was over 200 pounds. Maybe he was fishing in Egypt?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:51 AM
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82. Perciformes is too "scientific" for the Shrub.
I'm a fish geek. I can rattle off the scientific names for various fish, but when it comes to catching them, a perch is a perch and a crappie is a crappie.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 08:44 AM
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90. and we all know which one *he's full of...
n/t
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:03 PM
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21. The translation could be wrong- maybe a bass?
Someone else on the thread you linked to pointed out that the translation might be wrong as to whether it's a perch or some other type of fish. Still, even if he managed to tell the truth about the size of the fish that doesn't change much...
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:33 PM
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29. I just went to Bild's website. The word is "Barsch" = "perch" in my
Edited on Sun May-07-06 01:36 PM by July
Langenscheidt's German-English Dictionary.

Of course, we don't know what Bush said in English that was translated as "Barsch" by the German translator.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:43 PM
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31. Checked some more.
"Barsch" is also used for "bass."
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:57 PM
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33. If Barsch means Bass, that still doesn't let Bush off the hook..n/t
n/t
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 04:20 PM
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44. That pun is awful!
Awful funny!

:rofl:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 06:41 PM
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58. *groan* Good one.
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Mr_Scarecrow Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 01:11 PM
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98. Come on, give the guy a break, this was Germany
Edited on Mon May-08-06 01:11 PM by Mr_Scarecrow
Over there he's just a fish out of water...
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:39 PM
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54. You're right -- he had the lake stocked with bass
I found this description in about.com:

The ranch property includes a creek, canyon, waterfalls, and meadows where cattle and deer graze.
The Bush family renovated an existing farmhouse and built a new home there. As an avid fisherman Bush added a private fishing lake stocked with bass.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 08:18 PM
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71. He's the DECIDER!
I guess he gets to decide what seven pounds is, what a perch is, and so on. He's not lyin' he's _decidin'_!


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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 12:44 PM
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19. a professional in the White House?
"I am mindful of the difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch. I assured all four of these leaders that I know the difference, and that difference is they pass the laws and I execute them."..Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000 :rofl:

http://supak.com/bush.htm
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:03 PM
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22. herbster: I would like to put this on the DU homepage.
But I can't do that unless you put this into your DU Journal. For instructions on creating a journal and adding posts, please see here:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/66

-Skinner
DU Admin
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:11 PM
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24. Added to my DU Journal
Now I have a DU Journal- that was easy!
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:12 PM
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25. Thanks.
I put it on the homepage. :thumbsup:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:07 PM
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23. This can't be real
just when you think he can't be a bigger ass.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:14 PM
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26. If for NOTHING else, he should be impeached..
for making such a hyper-dumbass comment. <<SLAP!>>
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:19 PM
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27. Bubba NASCAR Redneck is gonna love this
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 07:44 AM
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83. He just reggiller folks who don't put on no airs.
Plus, we all know that anti-gunner LIEberals want to take our fishing poles too.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:29 PM
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28. OMFG.
Edited on Sun May-07-06 01:30 PM by Spiffarino
I never thought he could sink any further in my estimation. I was wrong.

I've always given Bush credit for being a brilliant politician, if only as an idiot savant. Now I see I was wrong about that one, too. Any credibility he retains is due to his handlers' careful and complex strategy: Feed him his lines, tell him what to say, make sure he goes in front of friendly audiences, and keep his stage time to a bare minimum.

If any link in the chain breaks, he's fucked.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:38 PM
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64. Bush seems completely dysfunctional to me.
Maybe having been drunk for decades has had some kind of effect on his mind. Who knows?

What a dramatic contrast between him and the real presidents quoted here. It's pathetic.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 07:47 AM
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84. I would like to have seen Poppy's response. Although I hated the man
I must admit that he was infinitely better suited for the position than his bumbling idiot dry-drunk mass-murdering necrophiliac son.

Yeah...I know...but go ahead and PROVE he's NOT a necrophiliac.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:08 AM
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92. Unqualified ner'-do-wells often have problems with that question
Who could ever have predicted that installing a completely incompetent, unqualified person in the Presidency would cause such problems!
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:41 PM
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30. Takes self-absortion and self-importance to an all new level.
Seriously, I doubt he can think of anything during his "watch" that brings him pride, happiness or satisfaction as far as the country or world is concerned. If he can, then he is also, self deceived.

He hasn't done anything I'm happy about or proud of.

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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 01:59 PM
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34. And others? I know about Washington. How about Reagan?
Despite his many faults, I bet he didn't give this kind of insipid answer.

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IowaGuy Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 02:07 PM
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36. agreed...no higher point than that in his presidency n/t
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 02:11 PM
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37. Stunning
Sadly, what else could he say? His presidency is all about failure, greed, and death.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 02:23 PM
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38. Further proof that Chimpy thinks only in terms of "me"
He doesn't give a shit about the country, the people or the world. The man can't relate to anything outside of "me" :eyes:



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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 02:27 PM
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39. Seriously, I bet he had to get someone to get the fish off the hook.
Fishing with him would be like fishing with my kids.

"Would you put another worm on my hook?" :eyes:
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 03:01 PM
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40. It's all just spin.
He probably had Navy Seal divers beneath his boat attaching the fish to his line.

His Presidency - the most disasterous, possibly ever, lacks a single point of decency, never mind a success.

This fuck deserves prison - life in prison.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 03:26 PM
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41. I did not think that it was the least bit possible
for me to believe this freak could be more of an idiot - but my opinion of him has dropped even further - just didn't think it possible - one day I'll just lose my mind completely over the f-ing idiot - oh my God someone please rescue us.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 03:37 PM
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42. Bottom third
I heard someone say once something that went like this: One third of us talk about complex ideas, set forth our vision for what we think is right and just and try to live by it. From this third come our leaders in thought and action. Another third talk about other people, what "they" are or are not doing, who did what to whom, etc. This third provides the steady audience for American Gladiator and Survival and can be easily goaded into debt-laden over-consumption, paradise for those working on Madison Avenue. The bottom third talk about things. "See my red ball? Cool, huh?" Apparently, in the good ol' US of A, from this dense group we get the occassional pResident.

Scary, isn't it?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:13 PM
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51. "...see my red ball?"
"...Now watch this drive!"

Same old same old.




Cher
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 04:11 PM
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43. What a shallow, stupid man. A fish, a fucking fish!
It's all about you, isn't it georgie? :wtf:

He certainly doesn't have anything positive to remember about his "presidency" thus far. Everything he's touched has turned to shit, a reverse "midas touch" so to speak. He hasn't done a thing to help the poor, educate our children, make college more affordable, provide health-care for everyone, promote world peace, clean up our environment and a host of other "little projects" that separate a good President from a total failure. He has increased the wealth of America's top 1% though, that's certainly something to be "proud" of. :sarcasm: Bush will go down in history as the worst president ever. No one else even comes close, he's in a league of his own.

A fish. A fucking fish. :banghead: What a shallow, stupid man. Our nation is cursed until this festering, pus-wart is removed from power. :mad:
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:46 PM
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66. Some Letter-Writer in the LA Times...
...said that GWB was going to be known as the best President ever, despite the current opinion-polls. What kind of dreamworld does this guy live in? Oh, well--he was from "rich-bitch" Costa Mesa. That explains it. Only rich people think that Bush will be remembered as a great President, since he gave them all of our money. :evilgrin:

Tammy
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 07:57 AM
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87. I remember, even before 9-11 there was this vocal clique of kool aid fans
who INSISTED that * was the wisest ruler the world had yet seen. And they're not all toothless, marginally-educated trailer-dwelling NASCAR addicts. From the beginning they were more worshipful of him than of even the semi-divine Reagan. But I've never heard a reason WHY. My opinion (and that's all it is) is that the fundies know that they are increasingly on the fringe and thath, although Religion certainly will endure, THEIR brand of regressive christianity might not survive without government support, so they slavishly embraced the first idiot who they thought was really gonna help them institute their theocracy. Just my opinion.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 04:33 PM
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45. Sent to Olbermann's staff
The WOW factor is incredible, but couldn't decide whether to recommend it for Oddball or Worst President..er..Person in the World :D

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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 04:44 PM
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46. Did everyone catch the last line of the article!
Because Bild could not immediately furnish English quotes, Bush's comments were translated from the German. The paper said the White House planned to release an authorised English version of the interview on Monday


You can rest assured they will have changed this comment completely by the time it has been "official-ized".

Transparent, no good, lying, cheating, swindling, evil doing FUCKS!

:banghead:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 11:27 AM
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96. Translation into English?? What language was ** speaking?
Or has that been established yet?
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 11:48 AM
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97. Original comments were made to a german newspaper
and printed in German. Apparently the WH is going to claim that something was lost in the translation I'm sure.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:26 PM
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99. Uh, thanks. Just pointing out that it's none too clear what ** speaks. nt
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 04:51 PM
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47. My wife thinks chimpy is passive aggressive and arrogant.
You know, like he really doesn't give a **ap what anyone non corporate thinks and makes these
statements just to flip us off.
I think that may be true but unlike my wife I do not believe he is aware of what he is doing.
It wells up from his neanderthal core.
He is much too stupid IMHO to be passive aggressive in the first degree.
He does this stuff because he is a passive aggressive arrogant moron.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 04:53 PM
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48. I didn't think it was possible
for the Shrub to appear any stupidier...BUT I WAS WRONG!!!

Two other Presidents talk about how they tried to make the world a better place while in office and dimson talks about catching a fish!!

Wow!!! There are no words...



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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:09 PM
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49. I'm glad he said that.
It only goes to show you what he thinks of his accomplishments as President! :eyes:
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:11 PM
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50. Out of curiosity
I wonder how Reagan and Bush the Smarter did on that question.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:15 PM
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52. I'd have thought it'd have been that awesome bike ride he took on Earth
Day. I'll bet it was #2.
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cirrostratus Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:23 PM
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53. Bush rocks! lol
Edited on Sun May-07-06 05:25 PM by cirrostratus
At least he's telling the truth for a change. It's not like he can say he made the world safer for democracy, caught Osama bin Laden, improved the lives of average Americans, defended the Constitution, won the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq.

When you are a man as fundamentally incompetent and deeply dishonest as Bush, citing a real accomplishment, "I caught a fish", is a huge step forward. Throw the guy a bone. lol Then ship his ass to a war crimes tribunal in the Hague.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:24 PM
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60. This raises an interesting point we have been missing...
Catching a fictitious fish is apparently more memorable than the capture of Saddam Hussein, even though that has (apparently) always been one of the primary goals of his presidency.

Maybe he really is a robot with only 24 hours of memory.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 07:53 AM
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85. Ramen! Welcome to DU!
I'm guessing if he hadn't fallen off his bike so much he would have cited the removal of his training wheels as his bestest moment.

:hi:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 05:42 PM
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55. You know, he could at least attempt to not look like an ass
when he's out of the country. He really does live in an alternate reality.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 06:17 PM
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56. My friend's translation? "I don't want to answer that question."
I think he should have been more honest though... instead of saying the highlight is catching a fish he should have said "There's been plenty of high points, but since I'm still "The Decider", my brightest moment is yet to come".

Either that or there's more than one President *.

Mark.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 09:11 PM
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74. Hmmm . . .
Your friend may be on to something here.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 06:19 PM
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57. Presidential Legacy...
I woke up one chilly November morning back in 2000, a little hungover, as I was shooting pool at one of the local dives the night before. I turned on the TV and found that George W. Bush was our new President... well, sort of... Florida was iffy, but I knew that when the play's really questionable, the ref's ruling usually stood. Didn't seem to matter too much to me then... sure he was a Republican, and worthy of no palpable measure of trust, but at the time, I couldn't see the harm. I didn't know much about him and Al didn't give him much of a run, but for the time being I could be content. At the time, with prosperity in the air and America seemingly on the right track, I simply thought that the next president would be a caretaker, foolish to squander the progress of eight years with little or no hope of screwing things up if he'd just continue on the road set forth.

Then the Brooks Brothers Riot happened, and I got a real sinking feeling about things. I had never seen suits so... well... voluble before.

Then the Supreme Court stopped the recount.

Then the $300 bribe came in the mail.

Then the stock market tanked.

Then he started giving ridiculous tax breaks to the richest 5% of this country.

Then the budget surplus started circling the drain.

Then, one chilly September morning in 2001, I drove in to work. I had my coffee in one hand, and my smokes in the other. I didn't turn on the TV that morning, and for some reason I had the CD player going instead of listening to Stern like I usually did. I have one last smoke before going in to the building, and I see everyone congregated in the conference room. I was a little late, and I thought I'd missed an impromptu meeting, only no one was talking. I poked my head in to find everyone staring at the TV, with one of the WTC towers billowing dark smoke. I could only manage a "wow." It hadn't been clear, because I knew that planes had been known to crash into NYC skyscrapers before, so I was thinking "tragic accident". Then the other one got hit. Then the Pentagon. Then Flight 93 went down in the backwaters of Pennsylvania. The attack was on.

Then he stared into space for a good seven minutes.

But at least after his waking nap, he went into Afghanistan looking for those responsible.

Then in the most ridiculous spaghetti twist of logic, he went into Iraq looking for... Saddam?

Then he went on vacation, for like weeks at a time. I think he caught a perch.

Then there were some swift boats and in another spaghetti twist of logic, a war veteran was painted as a milquetoast, and a douchebag who went AWOL is dubbed the second coming of Alexander the Great.

Then he got re-elected amongst even more rampant suspicious election handling via Diebold and Sequoia, only this time Ohio played the role of dirty tricks ground zero.

Then homosexuals were denied the right to marry, the morning-after pill still can't get FDA approval, and evolution, long accepted by nearly the entire of the scientific community, was painted as highbrow, pointy-headed, scientific hokum meant to peel impressionable children away from the loving arms of Jesus.

Then the war in Iraq tanked with sectarian unrest and terrorist insurgency.

Then there was the outing of Valerie Plame

Somewhere in there, at various points, Osama Bin Laden made a few tapes... did I mention that we don't know where the fuck he is... still?

Then his entire cabinet, as well as a few notorious congressional leaders, for the most part ended up being indicted, convicted, fired, asked to resign, or some combination thereof.

Which brings us to the present day, where he's now involved in a lot of loose talk about a little pre-emptive warfare in Iran.

Pardon me if I left any of the highlights out.

The end result is as follows:

Most of the world thinks we're the devil incarnate, a running sick joke, the kind of dangerous which makes our allies nervous and uncooperative, and our enemies laugh as we shift from foot to foot trying to hamhandedly justify our collective brashness and stupidity.

Our economy is in the shitter, and those who have been victims of it were forced to find jobs often two ticks below the one they were laid off from. The stock market vibrates around the same stagnant Dow Jones figure, and Big Oil makes money hand over fist as the Middle East instability is the perpetual raison-d'etre for keeping gas prices high.

Religious zealots dictate the terms of engagement in all aspects of our society, using the FCC as their personal pitchfork they use to invade infidel castles. The media conglomerates have gone near-completely propagandist, reducing a history of journalism to a den of iniquity where shock-and-awe have replaced the truly fair and balanced reporting we once knew (now a relic of history, due to the Reagan-era repeal of the Fairness Act).

Funny, if you would have told me six years ago that this would be the result of electing George W. Bush and his buddies to the White House and Congress, I would have laughed at the impossibility of so much damage being done in so short a period of time. I'm laughing now, though, but only because I think I've become a little insane.

As I analyze the timeline, a breakdown of his Presidency, with his "accomplishments" lined up so carefully like quacking ducks, it becomes clear that when he said that the high point of his Presidency was when he caught a perch...

HE WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, PRECISE, AND TRUTHFUL... probably for the first time in his entire Presidency.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 09:13 PM
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75. Excellent post.
You should give this its own thread.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 10:06 PM
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76. Well said ElboRuum!
Taking down the Clunton legacy and replacing it with a bankrupt domestic policy and a Big Oil Imperialist foreign policy is his legacy.

What an insult to the American people.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 12:21 AM
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78. Wow. Great post, Elboruum.
It reads really well. Interesting style. :thumbsup:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 08:34 AM
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89. Excellent post!!! n/t
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 06:57 PM
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59. Why all the outrage? I happen to agree with him.
:bounce:
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:24 PM
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61. LOL. True!
:thumbsup:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:28 PM
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62. Since chimp's comments were translated from the German,
Edited on Sun May-07-06 07:29 PM by LibDemAlways
the WH has some wiggle room and plans to release an "authorized English version" of the interview tomorrow. Anyone taking bets that this gem gets altered to read, "The best moment of my Presidency was when we finally caught up to the big fish in Iraq, Saddam Hussein. Our brave troops had been perched to get him for months and sprang on him like frogs into my lake."
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 08:17 AM
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88. Bwah-HA!!!
No...they're not smart enough for double entendre.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:38 PM
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63. This Illustrates Perfectly...
...that GWB is a lousy President. Carter & Clinton could talk about the big things they had achieved, but all that Bush could talk about was some fish he had caught. Maybe GWB even knows down deep inside that he is a complete loser.

Tammy
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:55 PM
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67. Maybe this was another one of those stupid jokes..
that he likes to tell?
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 08:03 PM
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68. the transcript shows he laughs, but does that change anything?
. . . und was war der beste Moment Ihrer Amtszeit?

Wissen Sie, ich habe viele groartige Momente erlebt. Es fllt mir schwer, die groartigsten zu benennen. Ich wrde sagen, der allerbeste Moment war, als ich einen Siebeneinhalb-Pfund-Barsch aus meinem See geangelt habe. (lacht)

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/index.html

(the interview is in the news section- you have to poke around a bit to get to it)
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 07:44 PM
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65. The sad truth is--he's right.
Catching a fish is, most likely, the proudest moment of his pResidency. Everything else he's said, thought and done on the job has either been idiotic from the get-go or turned to utter shit, after all.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 08:06 PM
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69. As others have also pointed out, all he can do is crack a joke
He has nothing to be proud of and everything to be ashamed of.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 08:07 PM
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70. Not that hes a moron or anything...
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 08:45 PM
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72. Dear Lord God Almighty . . .
Edited on Sun May-07-06 08:46 PM by Brigid
Carter and Clinton talk about accomplishments related to peace, while Bush talks about fishing. And according to Quixote1818, he didn't even get that right! Is it January 20, 2009, yet? :banghead:
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 08:55 PM
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73. The first things that he's ever said that I liked
That being said he didn't catch any seven pound perch. As was pointed out up thread the world record yellow perch is four pounds and change. I'll give chimpy the benefit of the doubt here and assume that something was lost in translation. He's still a dumbass though.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 01:02 AM
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79. See? He's just like you and me.
well, maybe YOU.
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 02:04 AM
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80. You know what this reminds me of?
The 'Great Moment in Presidential Speeches' that pops up on Letterman every now and then. Nothing like seeing "So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself", followed by "All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin, and, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Berliner"" & then seeing * screw up a 5 word sentence.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 07:55 AM
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86. Yeah, then Cheney shot it in the face! Heh heh heh.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:20 AM
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93. WH transcript version of Bush's best moment comment
Q Three last very short questions. What was the most wonderful moment in your terms of being President so far, and what was the most awful moment?

... The best moment was -- you know, I've had a lot of great moments. I don't know, it's hard to characterize the great moments. They've all been busy moments, by the way. I would say the best moment was when I caught a seven-and-a-half pound large mouth bass on my lake. (Laughter.)

Q Perfect.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/2006050...
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LilyLibber Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:00 AM
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94. Thanks for the link!
This is great, too...

THE PRESIDENT: The most awful moment was September the 11th, 2001.

Q The famous picture when somebody gave you the information?

I love that the interviewer's first response was to bring up the INfamous seven minutes... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:37 AM
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95. What a mortifying response Bush made--how embarrassing.
I hope that quote gets painted on the ceiling of his library for all to see--it's one of the few comments he's made that's been grammatically correct.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:30 PM
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100. This thread kicks ass!
Thanks for posting! :hi: :bounce:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:37 AM
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101. Speechless
I... uh... oh... how... when... my god, is his reality bubble getting smaller and smaller? Or it is reaching less and less into the past? Or both?

And he had nuclear weapon release codes. As a great man once said, "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!"

Pass me the Testors. Not the blue tube. The orange tube.
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