VIDEO: McGovern flames Rummy on CNN!

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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/

VIDEO: Rumsfeld Called Out On Lies About WMD

Speaking in Atlanta today, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was sharply questioned about his pre-war claims about WMD in Iraq. An audience member confronted Rumsfeld with his 2003 claim about WMD, “We know where they are.” Rumsfeld falsely claimed he never said it. The audience member then read Rumsfeld’s quote back to him, leaving the defense secretary speechless.

Of course, Rumsfeld did say he knew where the WMD were. From ABC’s This Week, 5/4/03:

STEPHANOPOULOS: And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven’t found any weapons of mass destruction?

SEC. RUMSFELD: …We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

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UPDATE: CNN reports that the questioner was 27-year CIA veteran Ray McGovern.

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1. Thanks for the video. It was great. So Rumsfeld knew this

man as an x CIA agent. I guess that's why he didn't have him thrown out.

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2. McGovern's opinion on the DNI "Intelligence Czar"

The creation of the Director of National Intelligence was one of the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission;

"...About the new DNI, well, what can I say. Mel (Goodman) has said it… I would also emphasize what Mel said this morning, it’s not the way you draw the lines in the diagrams, it’s the people.

Character counts.

Integrity counts.

Doing your job counts..."

http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/blogs/11700/Ray_McGovern_July_22nd_2005

Ray knows what it is he is talking about.

[Pharaoh]

3. quicktime!

the most useless video format I've ever seen........

[kerrygoddess]

11. Link to Video in WMP and Transcript

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=2879

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4. Some McGovern from Greenwald's "UNCOVERED"

Here is some more McGovern brilliance from the Robert Greenwald documentary, "UNCOVERED: the Whole Truth About the War on Iraq";
http://www.truthuncovered.com/

RAY MCGOVERN
For 27 years I was an analyst first of Soviet affairs and then of wider responsibilities...

Weapons of mass destruction was a convenient way into tricking our congress into giving our president authority to wage this war...

The evidence was simply not there. ...Wolfowitz would be asked to explain, you know, how good is the evidence, can you tell us more about it? This is in NATO, mind you, and he’d say, “Well, um, it’s like this, it’s like pornography, uh, hard to describe, but I’ll, you, you recognize it when you see it.” My God. And we’re going to go to war on that?...

I understand that the Director himself, George Tenet, is now accompanying the briefer in the morning. This never happened in the past. In the past we were trusted, we were senior people, we knew what the score was. And when I hear that George Tenet is going down with the senior briefer, I wonder why...

It was a bizarre warping of the intelligence process and they thought they were going to get away with it because who was going to see the classified version? Well, later, several months later, they release parts of the classified version. They thought no one would notice...

The ties with Al Qaeda was just a scare tactic to exploit the trauma, the very real trauma, that the American people have felt ever since 9/11 and to associate that trauma with Iraq. As you know from the polls, most Americans believed that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and that was a very successful and very deliberate and very unethical and immoral operation on the part of the P.R. people of this administration...

I would have to comment here on Secretary of State Colin Powell’s debut as an imagery analyst. It was highly embarrassing for those of us who know something about the business. We couldn’t tell whether this was an honest mistake by those who now do the imagery analysis, who now report to the Secretary of Defense, unlike our day when they reported to the Central Intelligence Agency, whether that was the case, or whether perhaps Colin Powell was being set up...

[Sydnie]

5. It's really sad when they get called on things that there is tape

to prove that they said it, and yet ... they still insist that they never said it.

Rummy ... time to take your little toy soldiers and go home.

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6. Wouldn't it have been amazing -

if Mr. McGovern had a real tape recording of Rumsfailed when he said that? Then he could just click the 'play' button, and the audience would be able to hear for themselves.

OH the lies this man has told. It's made him schizophrenic over the years.

They would have stormed to the stage and attacked him.

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7. It was pretty clear that McGovern knew Rummy's words verbatim

before he stood up and totally http://icestationtango.blogspot.com/2006/05/donald-rumsfeld-colberted-by-former.html">Colbertedhis ass.

[Wheezy]

8. I think the term should be

'Colbear'd'

eek, bears!

[Clarkie1]

9. McGovern, 3. Rummy, 0. n/t

Edit: Who were all these clapping sheeple in the audience, but the way? Where did they come up with this group of mindless hypocrites?

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10. OWNED!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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12. Anyone got the video of it which shows Ray getting manhandled??

it's missing from all the vids I've seen so far.

[opihimoimoi]

13. Rummy making it harder for his supporters to continue the support...

Many are bailing on the guy

Even serious Repubs are bailing...cutting the loses...as they say.

Them lower Pubs who sucked for this guy...? They are Hearing it from their golfing/fishing/etc buddies....those with open minds.

They are tired of being hammered/teased about Rummy and BushCo...They too are slowly bailing...

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14. kicked and nominated. McGovern is new DU hero!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1105300&mesg_id=1105300

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15. Thanks

Wow just WOW