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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:22 PM
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Team Libby Filings (5-1)
Edited on Tue May-02-06 07:34 PM by H2O Man
Attorneys for I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby filed two documents on May 1, 2006 in efforts to prepare for his defense. The first is his "Response of I. Lewis Libby to Government's Motion for Reconsideration of the Opinion of April 5, 2006 Concerning Ex Parte Submissions Under CIPA Section 4." ( Case 1:05 - cr - 00394 Document 100)

This 9-page document concerns the on-going disagreement between Patrick Fitzgerald and Team Libby over how the prosecution attempts to have the court determine certain sensitive intelligence documents are non-material. Team Libby wants these issues "litigated in a separate adversarial hearing." Fitzgerald, of course, wants to present his side Ex Parte.

Part of the reason Fitzgerald wants the non-adversarial hearings is because of the classified nature of the material in question. After the filings on April 21, regarding the leaks of a court document, and regarding one defense attorney talking to a reporter on a sensitive issue, it seems reasonable for Mr. Fitzgerald to have concerns about protecting secret, classified information. More, Mr. Libby's legal problems are an outgrowth of his activities that included sharing a classified NIE with journalists, and exposing a CIA NOC agent's identity.

Perhaps because they are on the hot seat, Team Libby's document has a splattering of histrionics. There are phrases like, "It would be astonishing, and inconsistent with the Order's 'detailed analysis' ...(and) would render the Court's discussion of CIPA 4 meaningless dictim. ... It would be equally bizarre ...." It seems clear that to most people, including Judge Reggie Walton, Mr. Fitzgerald's case does not seem astonishing in its inconsistency, nor is it bizarre.

In the past, I have commented that some of the less significant Team Libby documents seem to have been authored by an angrier person than the others. This is one of the those examples. I will speculate that these are filed largely as an insurance policy of sorts, so that if Scooter doesn't make a deal before he goes to trial, that after he is convicted there are procedural issues for appeal. The Court's 4-5-06 opinion on the Ex Parte issue was clearly fair to Libby's defense team.

The second document is "I. Lewis Libby's Consolidated Response to Motions to Quash by NBC News, Judith Miller, Andrea Mitchell, Matthew Cooper, Time,Inc, and The New York Times, and Memorandum of Law in Support," (Case 1:06-mc-00169-RBW, Document 5). I found this document to be far more interesting. Most of the issues discussed are not new, though one thing did stick out.

In recent weeks, on a number of forums, people have questioned the integrity and the accuracy of Jason Leopold of Truthout.com. Mr. Leopold has had numerous hard-hitting reports on the Plame scandal, including information on Karl Rove, that indicates that Mr. Leopold has one or more "inside sources." Some people have questioned this. It appears that Libby's attorneys are not among those who question if Mr. Leopold has inside information: on page 20, we find, "See Jason Leopold, Libby Filing, Truthout.com, April 14 (Exh L.)"

Will Pitt of Truthout has vouched for Mr. Leopold on the Plame reports, and that is all the "proof" I needed to hear. Mr. Pitt, who is one of the resources that Ambassador Joseph Wilson cites in his book, has a passion for journalism. The Team Libby Document, in my opinion, indicates that a large part of Scooter's defense strategy is to put the media on trial. Unlike the AIPAC espionage trial, in which is being called an attack on the media, but is not, this part of the case involves serious constitutional issues of the integrity of the free press.

Team Libby shows an inclination to ignore the truth while attempting to blame the media for Scooter's legal problems. On page 11, they state, "The government will rely on these conversations to contend that Mr. Libby must have been lying when he testified that he was surprised to learn from Mr. Russert (on July 10 or 11) that Ms. Wilson worked for the CIA ..." Then, on page 20, we read, "Again, the government will presumably rely on this alleged communication to contend that Mr. Libby could not have been surprised when Mr. Russert told him the same thing a month earlier."

Mr. Fitzgerald is not contending that Scooter already knew about Plame before Russert told him she was CIA and sent Wilson to Niger. Rather, he contends that Libby knew who Plame was because VP Cheney told him, and he had several conversations with other administration officials about her, and that Libby lied about the conversation with Russert.

Team Libby's odd sense of who is on trial is also found in a footnote: "Mr. Libby chose not to require the Washington Post to produce documents it has previously furnished to the government, but which the Court has ruled do not have to be disclosed to the defense." The documents they do seek, they believe, "likely contain evidence that the employment status of (Ms. Plame) ... was so peripheral in Mr. Libby's mind that he could have easily forgotten or misremembered any conversation in which she was allegedly discussed." They go on to say that "...there was no such campaign (to smear Wilson and expose Plame) -- or that if there was, Mr. Libby had nothing to do with it."

Right. If not Scooter, who? Ari Fleischer, Marc Grossman, Cathi Martin, and Bill Harlow are among those that this documents points to as being the source of the problems that poor little Scooter is shouldering today. But more, they point at Judith Miller.

Regarding Scooter's three conversations with Judith about the Wilsons, Niger, and the NIE, they state, "Yet, Ms. Miller's own public account casts serious doubt on the reliability of her recollection." They point out that in her notebook, she wrote, "Valerie Flame, Valery Plame, Valerie p, V.F., Victoria Wilson..." This, they claim, "will allow Mr. Libby to contend that, contrary to the allegations in the indictment, it was Mrs. Miller who raised the topic in her discussions with Mr. Libby -- if the topic was raised at all."

All of this, Team Libby explains, "makes it more likely that Mr. Libby saw Ms. Wilson's CIA affiliation " as a non-issue. Regarding the issues involving the protection of a free press, they write, "Even if there were a reporter's privilege it would be qualified and easily overcome by the circumstances of this case." It seems clear that things like a CIA NOC's identity and a free press are of little consequence to our man Scooter.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:36 PM
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1. Might it also seem
>It seems clear that things like a CIA NOC's identity and a free press are of little consequence to our man Scooter.<

that the same CIA NOC's identity and a free press are also of little circumstance or consequence to his representation as well?

Proud to nominate, H2OMan,
Julie
president for life of the PFEB

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:37 PM
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2. I just saw it at KOS
Nice kudos to Jason & Will

I am reading it again now

Thanks!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:55 PM
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3. What is not being stated is also of great interest and import.
Team Libby is now walling off the White House and Dick Cheney in particular, after arguing in the public square that part of the defense strategerey was to expose the low grade organizational warfare between POTUS's shoppe and VPOTUS's military camp. Suddenly, the media are the traitors that made Scooter lie by accident to a bunch of other federal employees. Scooter is now seeking to minimize the information and belittle the case so that he can make common cause on how many times the media messes up and they use the public airwaves. That is really weak from a legal standpoint and it is a great indication that Libby doesn't want to tick anybody off who has a chance to successfully lobby on his behalf for a beg your pardon signed by Clueless in the Oval.

Scooter also is not attacking those who would have turned in evidence against him either. After saying how much the infighting disturbed his pristine working environment - now hostile - according to Libby, just begs all kinds of further suspicion.

Jason has cultivated some serious sources and now Team Libby pays more attention to him because he is accurate. The other cheap trick media has a problem of not being able to report on this little "situation" directly while they are quashing the subpoenas that are raining down on them. According to Team Libby, Jason is a deadly accurate loose cannon with great aim that keeps springing holes in the USS Libby.

Oh my...:popcorn:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:57 PM
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4. It's fun to watch!
Team Libby is going to trash Fleischer and Grossman. It will be ugly. I am not expecting Judge Walton to allow the the media part to spin out of control.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:05 PM
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5. Valerie Who?
Edited on Tue May-02-06 08:38 PM by Me.
As has been pointed out, ad nauseum, if Libby were on trial for the leak, these motions might make sense. Someone might wonder if he is living in a parallel universe. I am curious as to who is actually writing these briefs. They don't seem up to the level of what one should expect from a team headed by Ted Welles. They seem suspiciously inept given the case at hand.

*shadow government*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:56 PM
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10. Victoria Wilson .... er, uh,
Valery Flame .... huh, I mean Valerie Plum.

Scooter who?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:15 PM
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6. I get the feeling that muddy water
is all he has left...
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:23 PM
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7. Nominated (nt)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:31 PM
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8. I agree that some of the docs were written by a very
Edited on Tue May-02-06 08:31 PM by Patsy Stone
snippy lawyer. I believe in Jason Leopold and I also know that Libby has one goal at this point: save Libby. Thanks, again, H2O Man. K&R.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:54 PM
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9. It appears that the * worldview that everything boils down to politics,
including governing, policy, diplomacy, science, and law, continues to hold sway.

Where are the adults on Libby's defense team, to point out that Judge Walton, Fitz, and the edifice of American justice operate in a different sphere?

Not that I mind this bungling. :)

Thanks for the insights, H2O Man.


:popcorn:
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:20 PM
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11. Great post. Also interesting that there have been personal attacks on DU
on Jason Leopold, Larisa Alexandrovna and Will Pitt. I'm not sure if all are related but it does raise questions. They have been vocal on the Plame issue.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:22 PM
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12. I have
great respect for those three.

It looks like Team Libby and Scooter Libido feel passionately about Truthout, too!
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:32 PM
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13. I hope their detractors don't keep them away.
Edited on Tue May-02-06 09:41 PM by kohodog
Each of them have provided valuable insight on DU and on other sites. The blowback only indicates that they have struck a nerve. We are entering an interesting period, and my main concern is that the bushites will strike out against Iran to divert attention.

edit: sp
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:38 PM
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14. Malcolm used to say
that he knew he was doing the right thing when his opposition complained the loudest.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 02:01 AM
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20. Amen to that!
Peace.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:38 PM
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16. There Have Also Been A Spate Of Threads
asking what we'll do if Rove doesn't get indicted.

*shadow government*
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:45 PM
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15. thanks very much for slogging thru this and reporting on it --
Edited on Tue May-02-06 09:46 PM by emulatorloo
nice to see the vindication of Jason Leopold, even if it is from that nasty crowd of Libby Lawyers.

As to the "snippy" angry tone -- do you think that it is possible Barbara Comstock is massaging some of these filings that are aimed at spinning the media?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:38 PM
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17. The press alternatives. K&R
In recent weeks, on a number of forums, people have questioned the integrity and the accuracy of Jason Leopold of Truthout.com. Mr. Leopold has had numerous hard-hitting reports on the Plame scandal, including information on Karl Rove, that indicates that Mr. Leopold has one or more "inside sources." Some people have questioned this. It appears that Libby's attorneys are not among those who question if Mr. Leopold has inside information: on page 20, we find, "See Jason Leopold, Libby Filing, Truthout.com, April 14 (Exh L.)"

I'm reminded of the alternative press in the late 60's. The claims that there was an active FBI plot against Rev. King and that the FBI was seeking out trouble with the Panthers were dismissed out of hand as paranoid journalism. These claims were later verified.

Now we've got the MSM and their agents dissing and, at the same time, poaching from Raw Story, and trashing Leopold for his style. Well, we know that Raw Story was right on a lot of what they said well in front of the MSM. I strongly suspect that Leopold is dead on target. He doesn't have an entire organization backing him up, he probably edits his own stuff, and he's busy all the time. I'll bet that the people who want the truth out actually pick Leopold as their preferred reporter. He will be vindicated and your citation here argues strongly for that.

Thank goodness we still have a degree of freedom left and people like Jason Leopold and Raw Story, Larisa, to use it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:54 AM
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21. It also reminded me
of when Bernstein & Woodward made the "error" regarding Sloan and the grand jury. When we think of Watergate, few of us outside the Nixon family tend to think, "Gosh, did Carl and Bob make fools of themselves, or what?"

There is also a human tendency for groups involved in progressive activities, including the civil rights and anti-war movements of the era you mention, to exhibit human weaknesses, especially during times of stress. Those weaknesses are exactly what the enemies of the progressive movements look to exploit.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:19 AM
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18. K & R
:kick:


Grand jury dreams to everyone.


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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:44 AM
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19. thanks waterman n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:02 AM
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22. K&R
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:48 AM
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23. I was up all night trying to get these Exhibits A - CC to you here you go:
Edited on Wed May-03-06 06:49 AM by stop the bleeding
05/01/2006 Libby Exhibits A - F for Consolidated Response - 35 pages

05/01/2006 Libby Exhibits G - N for Consolidated Response - 37 pages

05/01/2006 Libby Exhibits O - S for Consolidated Response - 34 pages

05/01/2006 Libby Exhibits T - CC for Consolidated Response - 39 pages

- they are over 150 pages total, they take a minute to upload so be patient, I hope that you do not already have them yet.

- Nominated.

All documents are here in the DU Research Forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=358&topic_id=3589&mesg_id=3630
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:23 AM
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24. I have mentioned
that the DU research forum has a growing library of Plame scandal documents. This is a more valuable service than many people might realize. In a short time, the interest in the growing scandal will grow .... and the young, honest, and inspired young journalists across the land will be scanning the internet, looking for orderly resources of information to write their stories for the small town and little city newspapers. DU will offer them more than any other site. On behalf of American journalism -- not the corporate imitation -- I thank you for this service.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:42 AM
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25. Hopefully I will have time to get the older stuff as well
Research is my job in the real world.

Thank you for your compliment(s)
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 09:26 AM
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26. Just one point of difference. The original OSP- AIPAC prosecution
was the most underreported important story of the last few years. Here was Lawrence Franklin, a neocon DIA Iran desk officer, trading classified documents and salting Pentagon files with information about Iran WMD "suggested" by the Mossad Chief of Station in Washington. Getting that Israeli-neocon joint espionage operation on the record was extremely important, but the MSM has spiked that part of the story. Predicatable and unsurprising.

Round two is the follow-up trial of two AIPAC lobbyists, Rosen and Weissmen, who acted as cut-outs between Franklin and Mossad's Naor Gilon and two other Israeli intelligence officers. The US Attorney McNulty, has charged the AIPAC guys under the 1917 Espionage Act. This is really quite dangerous because they merely received and conveyed classified documents, rather than released them. Unlike Britain, the US has no Official Secrets Act, but McNulty is using the Espionage Act in effect as an OSA to charge those who receive leaked classified information. This is bad news, as it could lead to wider application against reporters. So, in that limited sense, I disagree with you, the AIPAC case is about free press. Please, see, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/14/12390/3206

Good to see you. Howdie!:hi:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:10 AM
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27. Though you are
entitled to your opinion, the AIPAC lads are not reporters. Not a single reporter is being charged in the case. Mr. Rosen, who is charged, is not a struggling journalist, looking to uncover the truth. He is someone who is absolutely familiar with US government security clearances, and the restrictions on the use of classified information. As his indictment notes, from 1978-82, he was a high-ranking employee at the RAND Corporation. He enjoyed clearances granted by the Defense Industry. He signed documents that indicated he had read and understood, among other things, the provisions of the espionage laws. He had to be, in order to work on projects involving the Defense and CIA contracts.

The AIPAC lads were not engaged in some efforts to report the news. They were getting classified information including US military secrets about Iran, and passing them on to an intelligence officer from another country.

It is in the AIPAC lads' best interest to misrepresent what this case is about. This is an example of the "information management" that I have spoken of on DU numerous times in the past. The chances of the AIPAC case being about "freedom of the press" are exactly the same as the invasion of Iraq being to protect us from those mushroom clouds that the Niger yellow cake was set to produce in 45 minutes.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:48 AM
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28. Gotta humbly
disagree here. I know Rosen and Weissman aren't journalists, but the law is blind in that regard, There's no exception carved out for reporters, and the Espionage Act vould be applied just as easily next time to prosecute James Risen or Sy Hersh.

It would be a dangerous precedent. Particularly in the hands of this Administration's AG. That's what I'm saying.

I want these guys prosecuted, but not for receiving classified documents. Nail them for Perjury or OOJ, if you can. If not, go after their sources, particularly the foreign intelligence officers and those other U.S. officials they've been trading secrets with over the years.

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:50 PM
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29. Wow, can you feel those aspens turning?
These attempts by Libby's defense to deflect blame to Miller & others are really laughable. What an entertaining read!:popcorn:

Question for you, H2O Man. I'm trying to go over the timeline of events and was wondering, did Rove receive a target letter back in October, which then prompted the whole Viveca Novak sideshow?
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