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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:45 PM
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Sexism in marketing
This was brought to my attention this last fathers day weekend. Remember the sales and specials for mothers day? Flowers, chocolates, plants, COOK WARE. And what do they put on sale for fathers day? TVs, computers, cell phones, etc. What a crock. My mom doesn't give a rats ass about plants.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:23 PM
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1. I asked my husband once
to watch TV like he normally does and to make a mental record of how many times a man was featured in an ad for a cleaning product, and how many times a woman was featured in an ad for a tool or hardware.

In a week's time, he noted none.

Altho, he stated, Mr. Clean is a man, and in the one commercial (where the Kangaroo with muddy paws jumps through the kitchen), there IS a man 'coming to the rescue' with an oh-so-nifty mop WHICH HE HANDS TO THE WOMAN FOR HER TO CLEAN UP THE KANGAROO MUD SPOTS!!!

Every commercial for detergent, sweepers, vaccuums, window cleaner, dish soap, etc, has a woman as the central point of the commercial. Every commercial has a woman doing the cleaning (usually with a messy husband/kids dirtying up everything in the background). Actually, I shouldn't say "every" because there's a commercial for a Swiffer or whatever where the man is cleaning the fans and talking to his wife in baby talk as she's in the office setting up for a meeting.

Every commercial for a hand-tool, peice of hardware, tool, saw, hammer, car-cleaner, oil, gasoline, has MALES as the central point of the commercial. Every commercial shows men using the tools (usually with a dim-witted woman looking on in awe as the man uses a hammer without mauling several limbs in the process).

Does having a uterus predispose me to being a better cleaner? My husband (the 'domestic' one in the relationship) would argue that point.

Does having a penis predispose my husband to being able to handle saws and pliers better than a woman (My husband would disagree with that as well, as I was sawing away excess limbs of the lilac bush this weekend and DIDN'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT BREAKING A NAIL)

I took a sociology class a few years ago and its focus was "Sociology of Minority Population" and we dealt with all issues about gender, race, class, religion.

We specifically looked at gender-targeted marketing, and sexism in marketing.

Next time you see an ad which has children in it, notice that if there's a boy and a girl in the ad, the boy is usually standing up (dominance), while the girl is sitting (Submissiveness). Girls are often shown covering their mouths (keeping silent). Women are shown in ads selling everything from car oil to dish detergent, always the sex-symbol, legs spread, mouth covered, breasts almost showing.

There's a really good video series about this--done by a woman first in the 70's, then again in the 90's. I wish I could remember the name of it. But she is taped as she has a lecture at a college for marketing students I believe, and she shows these very sexist images AND messages that we're shown every day, and breaks them down. I never noticed the thing about the kids--boy standing, girl sitting, girls covering their mouths, girls always in submissive photos, vunerable, sexy, ready for the taking. Men always upright, standing, dominant, ready to do the taking.

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A few years ago, there was a commercial for Sears. Mom and daughter were in the kitchen and the idea of the commercial was "Make Mom's Day" and magically, the girl and mother were whisked from standing in the kitchen (such an apt place for a woman to be, right?) to standing in the middle of Sears' women's clothing department! What a DREAM for not only a mom, but HER DAUGHTER AS WELL!!! Because ALL WOMEN LOVE TO SHOP, right?

And on birthday's and holidays, we prefer to get useless jewelry and photo frames over useful things that we really WANT (but are too conditioned by marketing to realize that we don't want a three-stone diamond pendant with an oak-stained photo frame)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:59 PM
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2. The ones I like the best are the circulars for
Walgreen's and the local discount stores. "Hey, let's get Mom a new MOP!"

My own mother was old school, liked flowers and chocolates, although she was a reluctant cook and wouldn't have appreciated pots and pans.

Had I bred, I'd be a total nuisance to buy for. Maybe some extra heddles for my rug loom?
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:06 PM
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3. people never know what to get me
one friend asked if i wanted lumber! i said YES!
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:38 PM
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4. For Christmas
I was asked by my inlaws what I wanted for Christmas (we were doing Gift Cards for each other this year).

Did I want Dillards, or Macys?
Old Navy?
Gap?

no.

Give me Target. Give me Lowes. Give me Dollar Store. SOMETHING I CAN USE. I have small closets and enough clothes to last me. The last thing I need is a $20 gift card to Gap, where I can spend the $20 on the card and another $15 to buy a t-shirt that will shrink to unhuman proportions after only 5 washings :eyes:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:27 AM
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15. I'm easy to shop for and everybody knows it - books
Books and more books. :)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:04 PM
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5. Seriously, there is a good paper towel commercial on
I think it's Brawny, which I'm now considering buying to reward the company! We enter a kitchen where a sexy man is frosting a cake he baked and, after making a small mess, he cleans it up and then gently cleans a bit of frosting off a puppy's nose (to show the paper towel's both strong and soft). The voiceover describes all this and then says, "Happy birthday to you, Mrs. Smith, happy birthday to YOU," as the husband brings the decorated cake and puppy closer to the "us". Message: Husband is cute, caring, competent in the kitchen, and good at cleaning up. I'll take it!!!! :-)

This ad's SO different from the sexist ones as you have all described so well, that it REALLY stands out and is memorable!!!!
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:17 PM
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6. I'll have to keep an eye out for that
I liked when they changed the Brawny guy (from being a Marlboro-Man Look-Alike with full on 70's Porn Moustache to a more....racially neutral brown guy) and the two "Brawny" men were talking and just giving each other trash. I can't remember what they were saying, but it was kind of funny.

Again, strange that Mr. Clean (a man) is the face associated with a clean kitchen, but in the Mr. Clean commercials, the only "man" is Mr. Clean himself. Otherwise, it's all women with the gloves and mop and sweaty brow.

Equally with Brawny. A man as a logo for a product that generally shows only women dealing with asshole kids that don't realize how to wash their muddy fugging hands before touching a doorknob.

I swear--TV Land is filled with the most unintelligent robot drones EVER. They're messy, stupid, don't realize that soaking baked on gunk loosens it, don't realize that washing hands before touching something creates less of a mess....dorky kids, stupid husbands, stepford wives/mothers whose only lot in life is to CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN til it sparkles. Enter muddy dog and grass-stained kid.....
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:32 PM
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7. Hey- I googled & found the ad on the web at a gay men's site :-)!
If you go to this site and then look down the page for the link to either the dsl or the dial up version, you can watch it:

http://bobterpgaysian.blogspot.com/2005/04/brawny-ahem.html
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:42 PM
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12. That does it for me.
I'm switching from Bounty to Brawny.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:23 AM
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14. Both my husband and I love that commercial
It doesn't hurt that puppy in question is a yellow lab and describes our family to a T. :) I think it was just that we finally saw a representation of "us" in an ad that made it catch our eye.

(Yes, my husband is like GQ gorgeous and it's not uncommon for me to come home and find him baking a pie or chocolate mousse or whatever while also talking to and pampering the dog. Have I told you all lately how much I adore him? ;))
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:30 PM
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8. Wanna know what really chaps MY ass?
"women's" toolkits. Like I can't use a proper hammer and utility knife - no, I have to have some cheap piece of plastic crap with a PINK handle. Urgh. I go off every time I see one of those.

I put together my own "woman's" toolkit. Know what makes those "woman's" tools? I wrote my damn name on the handles in indelible ink so my husband will stop swiping MY tools! (He has a bad habit of grabbing my toolbox because I'm a Nazi about keeping all the tools put back in the box, so my toolbox is always complete - his tools are all over hell and gone. He knows he can grab my toolbox and be assured that it has all the screwdrivers, the socket set, the pipe wrench, whatever, in it. However, I am DEATH on that toolbox leaving the house.)

Pink plastic-handled hammers. Pardon my language, but fuck that shit. What year is this, anyway?

:mad:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:36 PM
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9. How about when they show women only repairing heels or jewelry
or say something like "fits easily in your purse!"
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 02:43 PM
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10. Same peeve here...
I just started buying my hubby his own power tools too so he would leave mine alone.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:50 PM
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13. I saw one of those "Lady's Tool Kit" in a magazine on a plane
and my husband was looking at the same magazine (it's one of the ones in the back seat pocket), and he started laughing and pointed out and said "Look at this funny prank" and I said "Uh, those are real, honey" and he's like NO WAY...how in the hell is a hammer that's 5 inches long and made of PINK (or lavender, or blue--your choice) plastic IN ANY WAY FUNCTIONAL?

I just shook my head and said "welcome to my world, honey..."

He got such a trip out of that. Had NO idea that these things had been around forever. ANd of course, it had the by-line "Created BY a woman, FOR a woman"---bullshit. The hammer we have (and that is well used) weighs more than I do and is solid fucking metal. Not some dainty peice of shit used most likley for 'afternoon crafts' than repair.......

You know what other trend really is annoying the shit out of me, and has for the last 5 years or so (ever since it became "in"):

SCRAPBOOKING

I fucking HATE those scrapbook drones that clog up the aisles of the Craft Store, debating for 45 minutes WHICH paper would look best with which OTHER paper, and do those letters come any bigger and where can I get tacky glue (you mean rubber cement?) No. Tacky glue. It's clear and you can rub it off (you mean rubber cement?) No, the brand name is Tacky Glue (It's the same as rubber cement) Hmmm....they didn't talk about that on KraftyKitchyKitchenKorner, so I don't know.....hey...do you have this paper in PINK tiger print......

(Sorry--I love craft stores, but I hate going there on Saturdays and Sundays because that's when the Scrapbook Robots come out in full force and hog up all the aisles and monopolize the help. All I want is some paint thinner...but I've got to wait behind a line of 25 Stay-At-Home'ers who have such pressing questions like 'Will this glue hold this sash?" and "which paper looks better with this background...the pink or the purple...or should I do yellow...do you have this in yellow....with a fuzz around the edge....?"

/rant
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:39 PM
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11. This never fails to darken my mood.
I also love the commercials for cleaning products and food... nearly always aimed at women.
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