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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:58 PM
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Anyone else living through "W" sober? I am. Since Sept 1998 -
back in the good old days. I haven't been to a meeting since before the "election" in 2004. Political problems. Anyone else?
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:20 PM
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1. Yes, although having W in the white house
makes it a bit difficult now and then.

Actually, the truth is, that taking a drink is not even in my list of options anymore. You know what I mean? Like when something bad happens and you have to make choices? Getting drunk doesn't even come up anymore.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:41 PM
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2. Yes, I know what you mean but * and this evil regime create
problems for me.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:06 PM
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3. Not only have I lived through W sober
I got sober right before Reagan's first term!

There are not enough republican administrations in the world that could make me take a drink.

But it sure does tend to cause outrage burnout for this fellow traveller.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:25 PM
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4. Wow. What a miracle you are. :-) nm
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:21 AM
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5. I just quit all recreational drug use 6 days ago
Alcohol and marijuana were the biggies. It's not terribly difficult, but everyday I have to remind myself all the reasons why I quit. That (so far) has kept me from using.

Wish me luck!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:36 AM
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6. good luck! and one day at a time is how you do it
:hi:

:hug:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:56 PM
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7. Thank you! I'm still keepin keepin on!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 08:14 PM
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8. great! before you know it, it'll be like second nature
:bounce:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:23 PM
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9. How's it going MadisonProgressive? How many days now? nt
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:59 PM
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10. 10 days and I'm feeling really good! Thanks for asking!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:35 PM
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11. great, glad you checked in!
:hug:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:13 PM
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12. Aw...
:hug:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:34 PM
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13. Woohoo
So glad to hear this!

:hug:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:06 PM
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14. Thank you!
I'm not doing the 12 step program - I'm just doing it myself. But it sure makes it easier to have some nice DU'ers cheer me on!!!
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 07:18 PM
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35. The problem with me, and many other alkies, was I had no...
problem stopping drinking... the problem was staying stopped.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:05 PM
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36. Hear hear!
Well said my friend!

:hi:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:52 PM
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15. 18 full days of no drinking or smoking drugs!
I think I'm gonna make it!
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:15 AM
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16. Glad to hear it!
:woohoo:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 01:31 AM
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17. Thank you, KW!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:36 PM
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18. and how was Christmas? the holidays are often tough on newly sober
folk.....
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:05 PM
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19. I echo that sentiment
New Years Eve can be especially difficult.

Take care and get some good support for the next week.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:12 PM
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20. hi KW!
Happy New Year and I hope your holidays were GREAT!

ours were, drinking milk out of the gold plated wine glasses at mom's fancy holiday dinner :rofl:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:21 PM
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21. A fine vintage I am sure
Expiration date Jan 2, 2006? :rofl:

It was a quiet and sober Christmas, which is always a good thing. My dad is sober too, but he has long since left his senses (he is a Rush loving, Faux Snooze believing bushbot).

Got into a semi political discussion about the movie Munich, and he basically said that Spielberg is weak on terrorism...I said that I disagreed with how the US has handled it. His answer was "we haven't been attacked, since 9/11". I responded by saying that our way was engendering a lot of hatred of the US.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:28 PM
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22. next time remind him how many years between the 1st Trade Center
bombing and the second

9 years IIRC......
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:30 PM
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23. True enough
and if we really want to get technical, we can talk about the USS Cole. Yes it was not docked on our soil, but it was our property.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:32 PM
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24. lots of overseas chit for years
sigh

we had to agree not to discuss politics at all, but my stepmom was making comments like "the economy is so bad" and "gas is so HI" so she may be getting it....
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:36 PM
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25. At least some people are getting it
My dad, I am afraid, will never get it. He was a liberal (left of freaking Hubert H Humphrey) Democrat when he was drinking. When he got sober he decide to become a fundie born again and a RW rethug. It is not pretty. And he has the charming attribute of always having to be right and to have the last word.

I try to declare a politics free zone around me when I am around him.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:49 PM
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26. Congratulations! Keep doing it one day at a time
Sometimes I did it one minute at a time.

I got sober on April 7, 2000. Sometimes I think that w has helped me stay sober. He certainly has taken my mind off drinking!
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:20 AM
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27. Admitedly, it is tough living through the reign of W while sober.
Rage is not good for any recovering alcoholic or any other addiction.
Those feelings of murderous anger and helplessness are too familiar
for many of us in the program.

It has made me appreciate how fragile sobriety is sometimes. I have
been sober since 1-2-81 and still struggle with these feelings.
But I love the steps and just end up using them more than usual.
My recovery tool box has been well worn during this administration.

Hang in there.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 12:09 PM
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28. you and I may become fast friends OB
here and in the Cooking group too??

not to mention your username, if I had to do it again that's the one I'd take :rofl:

:hi:
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:50 PM
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29. Hello, AZDEM.
Yes, I'm a recovering alcoholic who is seriously challenged in the kitchen.
My sobriety has not increased my desire for domesticity one bit.

I like to read cookbooks, but that is about as far as it goes. I imagine
all the wonderous things I should be making for my husband. yeah, right.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 04:14 PM
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30. the program taught me to love my kitchen
for years and years in and out of recovery I moaned and bitched and complained about cooking and the cleanup and the shopping etc etc etc

finally I realized I would have to eat for the rest of my life and that with my dear Mr. Ketchup as a spouse it was either takeout windows or I'd have to cook

so I got a new pair of glasses ya know? I made cooking my hobby, my challenge, my zen...

I'm still no great cook, but it's more fun and sometimes I have moments of genius and Mr. Ketchup cheerfully dries the dishes every night

it's all in what you put your attention to right? :hug:
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:10 AM
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31. I have to give the cooking thing a try pretty soon.
My husband is 6'2" and weighs 156 - all due to my cooking, or lack thereof.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:36 PM
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32. being "ever of service" I started a thread to help you out......
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:13 PM
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33. Yup
Got sober in 1990, at a very rough fellowship hall, and learned early on that there are only excuses, no reasons to use. Too much death and destruction.
I wouldn't get drunk over bush. Blech.
Funny thing-- my sobiety friends-- many have a near Zen appoach to politics. No one really likes bush, of course, but involvement or passion is minimal, except for a few. But those few are very involved.

I always go to meetings. I have a couple of hard core "first step" meetings I go to that are refreshing. As well as my homegroup, which is a little more touchy feely, which I'm not, but they love me anyway.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:38 PM
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34. and your nick says it all, doesn't it? n/t
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