4-16-08 - Post-debate thread

[SharonRB]

[SeattleGirl]

1. So, Clinton decides that SHE is the one who is going to vet Obama?

WTF?

Who made her Queen of the Universe??

[Patsy Stone]

3. Isn't that kind of her?

Just doing the Lord's work. Bless her heart.

:puke:

[SeattleGirl]

4. Gad, but that pisses me off!

And I also think it's another lie. She's not "vetting" him; she trying to destroy him.

[rocktivity]

7. In conjunction with ABC, you mean?

At least Keith gets it--he's wondering why the question of an NFL team moving to Los Angeles wasn't asked.

:headbang:
rocknation

[SeattleGirl]

8. Yeah.

I read that they (ABC) got together with some pro-Clinton folks before the debate, to formulate questions with which to hammer Obama.

[RevCheesehead]

11. Can you spell Stephanopolis?

Was he not Bill's first WH Spokesperson?

[SeattleGirl]

12. Yep, I believe he was.

[Patsy Stone]

10. Still waiting to find out

whether Hillary wears boxers or briefs.

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

13. It's gotta be the boxers!

:rofl:

[SeattleGirl]

Keyboard!

:spray:

[GigiMommy]

2. How did Barack do?

:hi:

[SeattleGirl]

6. I didn't get to see it. It doesn't broadcast here for an hour.

In GD-Pee, the Clinton camp is saying she wiped the floor up with Obama, and the Obama supporters are saying he did the same with her.

So, I guess that makes it a mutual wipe-out. :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

5. Keith makes me glad I didn't waste my time watching the debate.

Although the last 1/2 hour was somewhat substantive. That's all I watched. :)

[Berry Cool]

14. Me too. All I saw is the last part, which was not the poo-flinging part.

Then after it's done I tune in to Keith and Chuck Todd, and all Todd has to say is how TERRIBLE a night it was for Obama and how all we're going to hear about tomorrow is an entire history of the Weather Underground on every channel.

:grr: And I am SO GLAD Keith is going after Sean Hannity for even bringing up the absurd topic.

As for Hillary...she can take her fucking "raised questions" and ram them up her ass.

[RevCheesehead]

16. Haven't we had enough of poo-flinging these past 7 years?

:banghead:

[SeattleGirl]

18. Yep, we have.

I'm on my 20th rain slicker, as they've all been caked with poo. :eyes:

[Patsy Stone]

17. The poo flinging

was done mostly by Gibson and Stephanopoulos.

[SharonRB]

19. That's true

Hill and Barack were pretty civil through the whole thing.

[RevCheesehead]

20. How disappointing.

I didn't know they were chimps.

[Patsy Stone]

37. It's a fact.

They sucked.

[bunny planet]

26. I thought Obama came back nicely from that one by pointing out that Bill Clinton

pardoned two members of the Weather Underground. Oopsy Hillary.

This debate, at least the part I was able to watch, was a really smarmy ambush on Obama.

[SeattleGirl]

9. Hilary, Hilary, that "choose" duck don't hunt.

After all, YOU chose to stick with Bill after Lewinsky! I'm not judging you for that, but it seems pretty cheap of you to do that in light of the fact that you stayed with Bill.

[SharonRB]

15. That's what I said after she said that, too

[Berry Cool]

22. It's like they deliberately decided to bombard him with all the shit tonight

and you can say it's because they figure he's going to be the candidate, but why on earth not leave the shit questions to McCain's stupid future attack ads, and ask the two of them REAL questions when they're just there together?

[bunny planet]

21. Its my daughter's birthday (voting age, YEAH!) so I was making a special dinner

party dinner for her and streaming the debate before we sat down to eat (we eat late like the Spaniards at our house) I listened up until the Iraq question, only heard Hillary's answer. I had been furious at the ambushing going on up until that point and it doesn't sound from reading like it got any better after that. Truly sounds like a shameful attack fest, what the hell is Stephanopolos doing asking debate questions of Hillary anyway. And what's up with Charlie Gibson, I missed that part but am reading that he went after Obama personally for his tax plan, say what???

[RevCheesehead]

24. Bunny!

I'm glad you joined us!
And Happy Birthday to the li'l Democrat! :party:

[bunny planet]

27. Thanks Sha-sha. I'm so proud of her!!!

She loves Obama, but I swear its not because I told her to.

[SharonRB]

31. I'm sure she has a mind of her own -- just like her mother

I just knew she'd be for him and not Hill.

[bunny planet]

36. You got that right, does she ever have a mind of her own.

[SharonRB]

38. Don't they all at that age!

[bunny planet]

29. I'm sorry Rev, I responded to Sharon but I did it on your post.

Yes, she is my little democrat. I'm beaming with pride.

[RevCheesehead]

41. That's OK.

I'm trying to type over a 20-lb orange cat. :P

[bunny planet]

45. LOL

[SharonRB]

25. Happy birthday to Z

Another vote for Obama! Yay!

The debate sucked -- it took an hour to get to any real issues. Lots of distractions -- Wright, Weather Underground, Bittergate, etc. Total waste of time the first hour or so.

[bunny planet]

33. Yes, I saw the first half that sucked, and missed the second half.

Heard that sucked too. Is that correct?

[SharonRB]

35. At least they talked about issues

but not enough of them. Iraq, taxes, Social Security. Nothing about health care, torture, global warming, etc.

[bunny planet]

42. that's because they wasted so much time (by design) talking about flag lapel

pins, Reverend Wright, the Weather Underground guy (boy was that ever a planned ambush question). The questions about Snipergate were softballs compared and they let her off easy, didn't ask her why she talks about McCain's experience and patriotism over Obama's. What a hideous debate, I missed the whole last part except for Hillary's answer on Iraq. Didn't hear Obama's Iraq answer or any of the other questions, hope I'll be able to see the whole last part somewhere (it will probably make me furious when it gets to the part where Gibson goes after BO).

[SharonRB]

43. Notice how no one ever asks why Hillary doesn't wear one?

[Patsy Stone]

40. Gibson, 9:40 p.m...

"Okay, some quick questions; thirty seconds. How are you going to bring down prices at the pump?"

Shameful.

Wish the kid a happy birthday from me, please?

[bunny planet]

44. Thanks Pats, I will.

Sounds like Charlie's got some millionaire angst he needs to work out. I can't tell you how many rich Republicans are telling me they're worried about Obama raising their capital gains taxes.

[SeattleGirl]

30. Happy birthday to your girl!

And hooray that she is now eligible to vote!! :patriot:

[bunny planet]

34. Yippee, I know, I'm getting her registered as soon as possible, like tomorrow.

They actually have a registration table set up at graduation, that's where most of the kids sign up, but I don't want her to wait two months.

[Berry Cool]

39. Yeah, happy birthday to the Bunny-Babe!

:party: Always glad to see another wise voter come on the scene!

[RevCheesehead]

23. Keith raised an important point.

If you didn't really pay attention to the media spin of Bittergate, Pastor Wright, etc., would anyone know what in the hell they were talking about, and would they continue to watch?

Judging from the ABC hotline, sounds like a lot of people were pissed.

[SeattleGirl]

28. I'm glad they are sounding off!

The damned M$M seems to think that all 'murkins are just stupid shits or something. :grr:

[Berry Cool]

32. Good!

And ladies, we have KOOS..LOTS of KOOS. :loveya:

Ahhhhh....*CLUNKKKK*

Anyway, I hope all this backfire on her but good.

[Berry Cool]

48. Spin, spin, spin, Howard Wolfson, while you dig your grave and lie like a rug.

He is trying so hard....every other word out of his mouth is "Weather Underground...Obama...Weather Underground...honored a member who said his only regret was he didn't plant enough bombs...OBOMBa...Weather Underground...and don't forget, Weather Underground. Thank you."

Keith handled him well, though. Brought up Bill's pardons, and Howard for a second had no answer and could only smirk! :rofl:

[SeattleGirl]

52. That man (Howard, NOT Keith, of course) makes me grind my teeth!

[SeattleGirl]

46. Listening to Wolfson makes me want to throw my laptop at the TV machine!

Yes, it's quite fair to question every freaking acquaintance you've ever had, Obama! YEARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

SENATOR CLINTON IS NOT SQUEAKY CLEAN, DAMNIT!!!

[Patsy Stone]

49. He didn't pull that off too convincingly

Uh, um, uhhh.

Thankfully, he's very bad at what he does.

[RevCheesehead]

47. Most people my age (and younger) are asking the question:

"What the fuck is Weather Underground??"

[SeattleGirl]

51. I was just thinking the same thing, Rev.

Wolfson thinks this is SUCH a big deal, yet a lot of people have no idea what the WU was.

[RevCheesehead]

54. And THAT's why Hillary is losing.

How can you honestly bring about change when you continually dwell in the past??

[Cassandra]

68. Those of us old enough to remember are saying...

who gives a shit, anyway!

[RevCheesehead]

50. It's the return of Dish Drawer!!

Aaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!

[SeattleGirl]

53. Yes, right after the irritation of Wolfson.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Patsy Stone]

55. LOL

:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

58. It's the new "Heartbreak of Psoriasis"

[Berry Cool]

I know. And then the return of Pat Buchanan!

Why, why, WHY must they always punish us after a debate by pairing Rachel with him?????? :grr:

I just hope all this attacking has the exact opposite effect of what was intended...that it acts more like a trial by fire.

But Pat is right...Wolfass did "advance the story" against Keith by adding the "he only regrets he didn't plant enough bombs" shit to what he said. Oh, he knew what he was doing, all right.

But can we say ENOUGH WITH THE FLAG PIN SHIT ALREADY????????? :nuke:

[SeattleGirl]

56. RACHEL!!!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

57. It's the Rachel and Pat Show

To your corners!

[RevCheesehead]

60. Pat was practically laying an egg on Dan's show last night.

If you ask me, HE's the bitter and angry man.

[SharonRB]

59. We're all angry Rachel

We're all angry.

[SeattleGirl]

61. Is it just me, or does Uncle Pat seems like he's going to wet his pants

over what they did to Obama in the debate tonight?

[RevCheesehead]

62. I want to know what he has against pudding.

"The proof is in the pudding." Ewww.

I don't want anything in my pudding except tapioca.

[Berry Cool]

64. Yes. I wish he WOULD wet his pants so he'd have to leave and go change them.

And even Rachel thinks Obama looked bad because he's getting grilled with absurd Repug questions.

Oh well, guess he better get used to it. *sigh*

[Patsy Stone]

63. E&P: ABC Decides Top Issues Facing Americans Are Verbal Gaffes, Flag Pins and '60s Radicals

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5539651

[Berry Cool]

65. Perfect!

And they ask whether people are BITTER???? :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

66. I am so looking forward to tomorrow's The Daily Show.

I want to hear what Jon says about what happened tonight.

[Berry Cool]

67. "All right, forgive me this one stroll down the lane with my unleashed ego."

That's OK, Keith. :rofl: Just make sure you do your Cheney impression again tomorrow night.