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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:48 AM
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"Sunset in DU Land"
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 11:49 AM by TahitiNut
How about we choose a day in the near future when we ALL go out and take a photo of sunset where we live? Same day. Same (solar) time. Then we could post a montage or gallery of that day's sunset across DU-land.

We could select a target week and then watch the national (NorthAmerican) weather patterns and try for a day that has the maximum clear skies across the sountry.

(I'd suggest sunrise for it's superior symbolism, but I doubt we'd be able to get anywhere near the same participation.)
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:28 PM
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1. Works for me
B-)
But here in Colorado we rarely have sunny days.
:evilgrin:

Shhh....it's our little secret.

Local forecast for next week is sunny/mostly sunny days.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:03 PM
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3. I know about Colorado
You have sunshine on more days than almost anyplace else. I used to live there.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:42 PM
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7. No, it snows here every day
:evilgrin:

Yes, we have many many sunny days. Actually enjoy the few cloudy days we have. Since the person who's name we won't mention stole the White House in 2001 our migration rate has dropped from 70,000 per year on average through the 90's to 10,000 last year, so I guess I can let our little secret out since no one is moving here any more.

I don't know of any other place that has nicer weather. And few bugs. You can sit out on a summer eve and not be eaten alive by bugs. And no natural disasters..... except for a few really bad hail storms now and then....oh, and forest fires.

...and I forgot. We're still a red state. :(

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:09 AM
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8. Alaska has little secrets, too
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 12:11 AM by Blue_In_AK
Like we have a spectacular autumn season which we get to enjoy all by ourselves because the tourists all go home before Labor Day. And the past 15 years or so, our winters have been very mild (at least here in Anchorage), far less severe than what the Northeast gets. Anchorage doesn't have blizzards, floods or tornadoes. Summer is warm. The only thing we have to worry about is the occasional earthquake, i.e., Good Friday 1964. This is really a great place to live.

On ed. Oh, we do have mosquitoes, but no termites -- and NO SNAKES.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:21 PM
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12. You forgot avalanches and draught.
But maybe that's what you meant by referring to the current politcal disaster. :P
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:30 PM
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2. I'm in
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:07 PM
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4. I'm in, too. This is a great idea.
If it's cloudy, I'll just go take a picture of clouds. That'll work. Yes, please make it NEAR future, because we're going to be in California from 4/19 to 5/3, and I won't be near a computer to post.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:28 PM
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5. Great!!
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:30 PM
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6. I'll join ya...just let me know the date...
and I'll whip up something...
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:15 PM
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9. I'm in
:hi: :hug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:59 PM
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10. I'm glad you didn't pick today...
It's been snowing since last night. :( Just when we thought we might get an early spring.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:12 PM
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11. I live in a land of phenomenal sunsets.
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 09:19 PM by intheflow
Count me in.

On edit: TahitiNut, how soon would we have to post our picture? :shrug:

Some of us (ahem) still shoot with film, and can't afford one-hour processing.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:07 AM
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15. I personally don't think there's any rush.
I think the trick would be to select a week some time in the future, and then look at the weather forecasts and try to choose a day in that period that'd offer the best chance of relatively clear skies (or only partly cloudy) in the most locations.

I'm thinking we'd all need to know what day's sunset was targeted at least 3 days in advance, if only because of logon/logoff frequency, arrangements, and logistics.

Once taken, I don't think we need to "rush to print" here on DU.

I think we can be patient.

How about 12 hours? :evilgrin: (Just kidding.)
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:44 AM
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19. Well I'm in as long as the rest of the group is in
Tahiti, you lead the way.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:23 PM
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13. Maybe we don't have to be so restrictive as to having it on the same day
Maybe we can do it in a week, and then post our photos. Some days are cloudy, some days are pouring rain, some photos just don't come out as good as you know you can make them the following day.

I love the idea, but I think we should come up with a collection of our best sunsets from our respective regions, and then post them in the lounge.

We don't want to feed them crap after all. Only our best work.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:56 PM
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14. I thought about that -- yet I think the variety might be desirable.
I've seen some absolutely AWESOME sunsets in Phoenix and Seattle while it was raining (rare in Phoenix, common in Seattle). I'm rather attached to the symbolism of having it be the same evening ... as evening creeps across DU Land.

Too often our diversity is seen in divisive ways. This might be representative of the ways in which are diversity is unifying. I've seen some truly creative/innovative photos here. (I've also seen some technically excellent but without the emotion I look for.) I'm sorta counting on the emotion finding a synergy. I kinda don't want "best foot" or "Sunday best" or Chamber of Commerce stuff. I'm thinking of serendipity instead. (In some contexts, it's called "trusting the process.")

I'm thinking we could agree on some uniformity of format - in terms of perspective and print size. In other words, I'm thinking we might agree on creating a 400x600 pixel graphic that's NOT just the sun blown up to that size, but more like a snapshot (or 55mm SLR) perspective. Once we agree that the graphic images themselves are uniform and the evening is uniform, then it sorta "squeezes" out the diversity of the views themselves.

Diverse views of the same thing. Get it? Appreciating those diverse views, you see. Making the best of things. Making lemonade. ;-)

Anyhow ... those are the notions I tossed around in my skull as I was thinking about this. I'm thinking "teamwork" and synthesis and forsaking control of the combinatorial outcome - not competition. (Obviously, however, we can't and wouldn't want to "police" it -- it'd be on the "honor system." Trust. If someone "cheats," it's only them that'd know it. I'd hope we'd trust that the outcome will be what it'd be, though, and just do it the best we could on the same evening.)

Yes, I do tend to think in ephemerals and symbols. The tangibles don't seem as interesting anymore. Maybe it's an age thing. :silly:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:48 AM
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16. I like your idea, Tahiti Nut...
Take what you get that particular evening and then make something beautiful out of it, as much as you can. If it's a 100% cloudy day, then just play it up. I might just have to take a photograph of "dreary beyond belief." :)
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:33 AM
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18. I like this idea, too.
It's more of a documentary, sort of a pictorial diary or a day in the life of DU members. Except focusing on our individuality, we focus on an event we each share every day. I'd be interested in seeing what the weather is one evening all across DU land. I'll bet we could get creative shots even if the weather is bad.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:28 AM
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17. I just posted one in the lounge, before finding this thread.
It's a damn good idea, in fact I was thinking about having the next photography contest more like an assignment, so all the pics are fresh and people can't pick and choose from years and years of stuff - which makes it harder on us photography n00bs
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:47 AM
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20. Good idea.
You mean like "green architecture"? I drove around Anchorage all evening looking for this one when I thought that might be the subject for the last contest. This one's for YOU, LongGrain, wherever you are.



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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:51 AM
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21. Sure!
And cool pic!
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:51 AM
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22. I love sunsets
Can't wait to capture a good one myself. Oklahoma has some pretty beautiful skies at times.

B-)
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:19 PM
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23. How bout' Saturday April 2nd, or Sunday the 3rd?
I would prefer a weekend day. Don't want to step on your concept T-Nut. Just wanted to get the ball rolling. And give those that use this strange thing called "film" a chance to process.... Photos to all be in by the 9th?

I've never intentionally shot a sunset so this will be a learning experience for me.

Also, everyone include technical data: Camera used, aperture, speed, lens, handheld or tripod, exact time of day etc. so all us Sunset Virgins may be able to learn a thing or three?

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:22 PM
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24. I would prefer the 3rd cause we're having a DU meetup on the 2nd
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:32 PM
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25. Oh, sure. DU meetup?
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 01:35 PM by F.Gordon
Isn't that forum-speak for a wild drug and alcohol party? Will there be nudity?

The 3rd works for me. Anyone else want to chime in?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:57 PM
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27. This will be my first meetup
It will be in south florida. I hope it gets really wild and crazy. I will be taking photos.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:50 PM
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26. I'd like to see a somewhat clearer nation than this ...
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 01:53 PM by TahitiNut
I'm thinking the week of April 9-15 might offer the first best timeframe. The forecast picture can change pretty abruptly at this time of year. April 9th is the new moon, so post-9th would be the "wax on" phase.

I dunno... maybe I'm being too anal. :shrug:



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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:30 PM
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28. You pick it
During the week I'm working a lot during the sunset hour. But I can just bring the camera... maybe I can make the local news: (from traffic helicopter) "Jim, there's some guy who just stopped on T-Rex and got out of his minivan and yes... he looks like he's taking pictures. What the heck is he taking a picture of? This jerk is causing a huge traffic backup here on I-25".
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:36 PM
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30. Just so long as it's before the 19th, I'm in. n/t
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:21 PM
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35. TahitiNut, it's springtime in the northern hemisphere.
I think any given day could be iffy for half the country from now until July. Might as well just roll the dice and see how they land. :shrug:
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:22 AM
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53. I like this idea
Sounds fun. When you guys get it nailed down, post a new thread announcing the date please :-) .
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:35 PM
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29. Aperture? Speed? What are you talking about?
:crazy:

Seriously, I really don't know much about that stuff, but I'm learning. :)
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:19 PM
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31. Too much? Over the top?
T-Nut suggested a snapshot format. Maybe the technical crap is too much.
:shrug:

APERTURE - A circle-shaped opening in a lens (a hole, really) through which light passes to strike the film. The aperture is usually created by an iris diaphragm that is adjustable, enabling the aperture to be made wider or narrower, thereby letting in more or less light. The size of the aperture is expressed as an -number, like /8 or /11.

APERTURE PRIORITY - A function of a semi-automatic camera that permits the photographer to preset the aperture and leaves the camera to automatically determine the correct shutter speed.

SHUTTER SPEED - Controls the duration of an exposure - the faster the Shutter speed, the shorter the exposure time.


Your camera (and your eye) does a great job all by its lonesome but there are times when a point and shoot camera gets "confused" and being able to play with the settings can be helpful.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:39 PM
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33. Why not leave it up to the individuals?
If some people want to post the technical details, please do so. I'm sure we can all learn from each other.

I don't pay attention to the technical stuff. Photography is a kind of escape from technology for me, because I shoot nature mostly. I could give you an idea of shutter speed or f-stop, but that's not what photography is about for me. I don't want to have to pay attention.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:17 PM
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34. No, dammit, we want all the technical detail
Including the exact date and time the photo was taken, with a notarized letter confirming this information.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:28 PM
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36. Do I have to ask Skinner
to start an anal-retentive photo group?



:P :silly:
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:13 PM
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37. Fuck me
It was just a suggestion. I was just trying to get things started because I liked the concept. Firm up a date, etc.... since no one else was pushing it to that level.

I'll agree to whatever the upper hierarchy of this forum decides. :eyes:

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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:38 PM
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40. Im just teasing
RagingINMiami, F.Gordon. I'm glad you got the ball rolling. It's a good suggestion. I'm just a wise guy. :P
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:00 AM
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41. I was also teasing
And it's F.Gordon and Tahiti who got the ball rolling. I'm just another wise guy.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:39 AM
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58. No problem....cut and paste.....
If you find my sense of humor...let me know. I lost it that day. I don't want to turn this forum into a "GD" styled mess. Had a nasty root canal done that day and was in a not-so-good mood. I'm just an a-hole.

:pals:
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:37 AM
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57. No problem
If you find my sense of humor...let me know. I lost it that day. I don't want to turn this forum into a "GD" styled mess. Had a nasty root canal done that day and was in a not-so-good mood. I'm just an a-hole.

:pals:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:44 AM
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60. SO not true, F.Gordon!
I know you from around DU. If you ever said anything offensive, I don't remember it, so how bad could you be?

And I don't think you could turn this forum into anything remotely like GD. We're pretty laid back, overall. And everyone is allowed a bad day.

:pals:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:04 AM
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42. When I suggested a 'snapshot' format ...
... it was my attempt to describe the aspect ratio and coverage ... much like Blue_in_AK has posted. I'm merely thinking that we try to keep to a pretty standard form factor so the content becomes the sole diversity.

The huge flexibility in image size, zoom, cropping, enhancements, etc, in digtal image creation might tend to present some superficial variances and variety that takes away from the diversity of the content of the images themselves.

Everything I've posted in this thread is merely random musings, suggestions, and miscellaneous ideas that I spend time explaining merely to communicate, NOT prescribe. Absolutely nothing I say do I assume has any greater or lesser weight than what anyone else might say.


The reason I suggest a common form factor is beause I think it might be nice to (web-)stitch the images together into a mosaic of some kind ... either rectangular, map-shaped, or linear (vertical). I even thought of a transparency-fade slide-show in maybe a time-sequence, from east to west. No big deal.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #42
43. Yeah, keep it the way I did it,
because I don't know any other way. :)
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #42
59. I understood the concept
:think:

I've even been experimenting a little bit. Last monday I went out and cracked off about 35 different handheld shots and experimented with various doohickie and googaloon settings to see what will work best since I'm a Sunset Virgin. I couldn't drive that day since I was on a pain med buzz, so I shot these in my backyard. They are not cropped, zoomed, or altered in anyway. Just "snapshots". I did drop the resolution way down and scale them, but nothing else....





I did notice that when I opened it up and slowed it down the sunset colors washed out. This was a partly cloudy day so I couldn't capture one of our typical boring Colorado sunsets. :yawn:

I like the stitch idea. Also, I can assemble a MPEG or AVI video if the aspect ratio is consistent and host it.



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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #31
44. Keep in mind that if shooting digital, that information will be written
to the file in the exif information.

Not hard to find if you're using the software that came with the camera or an aftermarket freeware program like exifinfo (I believe that's the name).
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:29 AM
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45. Please translate.
What is this "exif" you speak of?

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:40 AM
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46. EXIF data is usually automatically saved along with the picture
as part of the same file. It has all the exposure information on the picture, focal length, aperture, etc. It's part of the same file, but not visible in the image itself.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:04 PM
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47. But how to you read it?
I have a digital camera, I'm not happy with the quality of the pictures (except for snapshots). But I don't recall ever seeing anything like that. How is the exif data accessed?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:06 PM
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48. Software. (The data is embedded in the image file.)
Question: What is EXIF data and how can it be used?

Answer: Digital cameras save JPEG (.jpg) files with EXIF (Exchangeable Image File) data. EXIF information is also embedded in original TIFF files. Camera settings and scene information are recorded by the camera into the image file. Examples of stored information are shutter speed, date and time, focal length, exposure compensation, metering pattern and if a flash was used.

http://www.digicamhelp.com/what-is-exif/
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. There should be a function somewhere on the camera as well as
on the computer, that says "file info" or something similar.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. Would that be in the "Properties" box
if I right-click on the photo? Is that what you're talking about?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:37 PM
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51. In Photoshop, when you have a photo open
You go to the top left hand corner of the PhotoShop window where it says "file". Then you scroll down to where it says "file info".

I don't know how it is in other photo programs, but it should be that much different.

Also, I don't know what kind of digital camera you have, but you should have a function called "menu" or "info" that could lead you to the photo info, the technical stuff.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:09 PM
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52. Excellent!
I have Photoshop. Now I can learn the secrets of the exif data for myself... Bwaahaahaaa! :evilgrin:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:20 PM
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32. This weekend works well for me.
But please don't ask me for the technical stuff. I never write it down. I just do what my light meter tells me to do. :shrug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:01 PM
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38. I just do what looks good.
You guys crack me up. :)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:35 PM
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39. Besides, who doesn't write their EXIF data?
:D
Oh, right, filmies
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:59 PM
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54. TahitiNut, are we still taking sunset photos this weekend? (Apr 2 or 3)
:hi: :loveya: :hug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:33 PM
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55. "still"???
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:23 AM
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56. I love the decisiveness of this little group.
:rofl:
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