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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:21 PM
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Bush, the elitist, thought Delay was too "blue collar"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1147153,00.html

Even before DeLay's announcement that he would abdicate his leadership post, top Bush advisers tell TIME, the President's inner circle always treated DeLay as a necessary burden. He may have had an unmatched grip on the House and Washington lobbyists, but DeLay is not the kind of guy—in background and temperament—the President feels comfortable with. Of the former exterminator, a Republican close to the President's inner circle says, "They have always seen him as beneath them, more blue collar. He's seen as a useful servant, not someone you would want to vacation with."


I just love this article, it has so many delicious angles to condemn * with. I did find this posted in GD a few days ago, but I wanted to talk about this with you guys, because it's just exhibit #3883 of how we were lied to last year about the personalities of the two candidates. The folks in GD talked more about how * is really friends with Delay and he's only creating distance because of Delay's downfall. This is a funny way of doing that. I actually think they're telling the truth, that * is, of course, a TOTAL snob pretending to be a regular guy chopping wood in a cowboy hat. This is the REAL *, raw and pure -- dumping people who thought he was their friend, and then putting some salt in the wound by saying that you're just a lower class scumbag anyway.

I think we can all agree that if Kerry was in this position, he would only "dump" someone if he found out they were dishonest or unethical, and even then, he wouldn't use snobbery after the fact. Kerry is, in fact, the opposite of * because although he is quite comfortable with the rich and elite of this country, he seems to be the most at ease with his old buddies from Vietnam or even Marvin, who used to work at a surf shop. And don't let that evil Newsweek story creep into your consciousness (you know, the part where Marvin loses his brush and they describe him as Kerry's "servant"). There's no doubt in my mind that they are friends in the real sense of the word, and Kerry would NEVER look down upon him or anyone else from a different walk of life. It's character that interests Kerry the most. For George, it's simply that you should do him favors, give him money, or else you better be the right pedigree to hang out with him.

This little article is just one more piece of info of how little character * actually possesses. In short, he's a bad friend. Truman still stuck by Pendergrass even after he was put in jail, because Pendergrass had done so much for him, even if he was a shady character. I NEVER thought I would have even a nanosecond of sympathy for Delay, yet * granted me one (okay, nanosecond over -- Delay IS and ALWAYS WILL be a crazy, ruthless SOB). I guess delivering vote after vote after vote for the president can only get you so far, when the president thinks you're beneath him for only being a bugman.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:59 PM
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1. Delay was beneath them- more blue collar,I'm shocked, boy those beer
swilling guys that voted for Bush because he was just like them should read some of this piece. what a louse and a phony Bush really is. Now my blood is boiling.
Thanks for posting this, its good to see the truth about Bush is finally coming out.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:03 PM
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2. they should read it, but
I think too many of them have been "trained" to suspect the "libruls" in the media who write "lies" about Fearless Leader. :eyes: If it's not on FOX, it didn't happen! :eyes: :eyes:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:18 PM
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4. But... I dropped Time because it was leaning way to right for my
liking. They also featured Bush on their cover two times, I think. Of course, Fox News, as you said will not play out this part of it.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:22 PM
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6. of the three major weekly news magazines,
Time's the most centrist/conservative. Newsweek is more liberal, but the differences aren't very great.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:47 PM
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8. Newsweek, like MSN on line doesn't seem to want to even
acknowledge JK. But, I agree with your overall assessment of the weekly news magazines.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:15 PM
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3. Yeah, right!
I posted this in GD-P yesterday along with two previous articles stating the exact opposite (someone posted a photo of Bush and DeLay golfing. Hahahaha!). Also, today another article came out trying to further distance Bush from Delay. I posted that one too.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:21 PM
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5. Sorry, Prosense, I didn't see that post
Do you have a link?

I did a search because I didn't want to do a dupe, but the only one I found had a completely different spin on the article than I had taken.

Anyway, I would like to see how you show how the opposite of this was said before.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:27 PM
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7. No need to apologize.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 04:27 PM by ProSense
I'm an avid believer in cross posting for the very reason you cite: things get missed. The "yeah right" was for the article's claim.

Here are the links (the first is the blue-collar article):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2358930


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2360344&mesg_id=2360344
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:00 PM
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9. I think his denials that they were ever friends make things worse
It shows what a two faced calculated creep he is. I realize now that David Brooks is on board with this stuff, talking about "Delayism" like it's completely separate from *, when the two are intertwined. However, I really do believe the part about him saying Delay was "too blue collar" -- that sounds just about right.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:13 PM
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10. Right, he said it for the W is for wrong reason.
This is not a smart crew. They are con artists---cunning criminals who play on people's fears and trusts.

So, with all the proof laying around quotes, photos, etc., they spit out some stupid statement to distance Bush from DeLay, and by doing so they expose their moronic ignorance. Remember Cheney's "All the working poor need are jobs" statement?

Cheating, lying and breaking the law are the things that keep this cabal afloat, not intelligence, and certainly not common sense.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:22 PM
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11. This is the Bush Family history.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 10:13 PM by TayTay
His Royal Majesty believes that you are useful as long as you are serving him. Once you become a liability, he will drop you. Period. End of story. Everything is for the Royal Family. Look at the treatment that an honorable man like Colin Powell got. (Powell was an honorable man. He has a right to be bitter over what happened to him at the State Dept. He was used, abused and tossed aside when he was no longer useful. And he didn't even get a Medal of Freedom, did he?)

The GOP has a brush that they use to tar people with: we saw it again at the Alito hearing this week. Alito was answering questions about his involvement with a group at Princeton that opposed allowing women into the college. He parried that by talking about how some of the kids of the rich and privileged who attended Princeton were behaving badly back then. (By, like protesting the Vietnam War and Nixon.) Alito inferred that the lowly but pure 'muricans who lived in the town he came from would have been shocked by these spoiled rich brats. Gawd, what a farce.
Anyone who stands up to government power and strays from the GOP line is a dangerous person and is against the values of small town America. You can't have a beer with them, cuz they are elitist snobs. The GOP has been using this line for 33+ years. It's what they do.

Delay got what was coming to him. His time as a useful fool has come to an end, so he will be 'erased' from memory to the extent possible. It is really quite the process to watch. It will also happen with Abramoff. The thing to really see is if the media buys it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:54 PM
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12. Please say we can eventually erase
the Bush family. Please!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:14 PM
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13. They are collapsing under the weight of their sins
Unfortunately, they are doing so much damage that it will take decades to get the country back from all their mistakes. Decades.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:00 PM
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14. Yes and unfortunately,
whoever follows them will probably be saddled with at least some of the blame for damage caused by the Royal Bushes. (This perception will be aided of course by the media which also has blood on its hands for being so compliant to the wishes of the royal family.)
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