To Kerry and the other 13

[JohnKleeb]

who said no to making both Rice and Gonzales Secretary of State and Attorney General. Those are a good 14.

[elshiva]

1. God bless you 14!

Kleeb, you have to list 'em. I know Mikulski and Sarbanes voted for Rice (with some questioning on Sarbanes part about Rice's economic know-how, so I think they were sorta like Biden we don't-think-she's-good-but-the-prez-should-get-to-pick-his-own-cabinet), but both voted against Gonzalez. I was so proud of them for the latter that I do not hate on them for the former (although I disagree with OKing Rice for whatever reason). Go 14!

[JohnKleeb]

2. oh crap I dont know them off hand

Hey, I wont be hating on those two, they're great. Theres no senate dem I hate right now, theres a few I dislike but thats different.

[elshiva]

3. I do not like Ben Nelson.

Nelson was the only Dem not to sign on the Dem plan against Bush's SS B.S. At least Joe, signed on, which means I can't really hate on him.

Another note on Joe, some GD discussions against Joementum are Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel, which is one reason I can't stand GD. Sometimes, I go there, but nothing to do with Joe, cos I know they'll hate. Grrrrr.

[JohnKleeb]

4. speaking of anti semtism

Basically what that guy Churchill said was that the corporate bosses in the WTC were "Little Eichmanns" It was something liek that. I had corporate bastards but I know what Eichmann did too, oh and i dont think hes related to Sir Winston either.

[elshiva]

7. Thanks, Kleeb.

Ever if they were awful corporate bosses, they did not deserve to die or be called Eichmans by a nitwit.

[JohnKleeb]

8. You are welcome

Remember I am not Jewish but my family suffered under the Nazis as well.

[elshiva]

9. Your family suffered because they were

Catholic, Polish, and/or both? I know Hitler and the rest killed alot of Slavic people who were not Jewish, cos not Aryan. Also killed Catholics.
I'm so sorry they suffered. My family survived hundreds of years of pograms to get out of Latvia before 1904. So no family to my knowledge suffered. But whose to say what happened to any distant relatives left behind?

[JohnKleeb]

10. no I am not Polish

Slovak and Slovene, you know Slovakia and Slovenia right?
Slovakia was part of Czechoslovakia and Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia. I dont know why they killed my grandfather's cousin really. They were Slavs yes and did not wish to colleberate with the Nazi invaders.

[elshiva]

11. I am so sorry.

As I said I am Slavic, too, on my dad's side.

[GRLMGC]

5. a lot of them are bigoted

They really are.

[angrydemocrat]

6. How Many Of That 14 Also Voted No For

The phony ass torte reform bill (S.5)
Foreign Operation Financing Bill(H.R.4818)
Raise The Public Debt Limit (S.2986)

These are also things that have been passed since election ended.

[elshiva]

12. This Derryiac Wants to KNOW!!!!!!!!!

KICK!

[Pirate Smile]

14. I'm looking - Here is who voted against Rice

Boxer
Kennedy
Levin
Byrd
Kerry
Reed (RI)
Durbin
Dayton
Akaka
Bayh
Harkin
Lautenberg
Jeffords - I

[Pirate Smile]

15. Votes on Gonzales

Red state - no votes

Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Robert Byrd (D-WV)
Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
Tom Harkin (D-IA)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

Only one blue state yes - Joementum

I think everyone who voted against Rice, also voted against Gonzales.

Only six Dems voted yes

[JohnKleeb]

13. I dont know