Well thank goodness Dean is going to be the chair.

[rockymountaindem]

If he had lost we would have seen the biggest outburst of self-righteousness and bitching from the Dean purists yet (not the ones in here who are both cool and sane :) ). They (all 50 of them) would have left the party en masse and we'd have never won another election anywhere ever.

Good thing we dodged that bullet.

:eyes:

[paulk]

1. give it six months

and those purists are going to be pissing and moaning about what a turncoat Dean is.

[sandnsea]

2. 3 days of gloating

And it will be back to pissing all over the Democratic Party, per usual. Chronic malcontents, they just can't help themselves.

[paulk]

3. 3 days!

and here I thought I was the pessimist...

[sandnsea]

4. You were being generous

You know you were. :7

[angrydemocrat]

7. I will say 2-3 weeks a month a tops

These people will fly the coop and start on Dean just like the do others and they will pick someone else to worship.

[saracat]

8. I think they may give it a bit longer because they see a Dean

who doesn't exist! It will take a while for them to realise he isn't really what they think. That being said, I hope to hell Dean does everything he can to bring this party back to its roots!

[angrydemocrat]

12. Your probably right about the time

But it wouldn't shock me if some come unglued pretty quick. Some are like fruit loops already. But I feel Dean will do ok and when I hear Kerry say that Dean will do a good job I figure he knows more than me so I'm kindly making my guess by listening to Kerry about him. And so far Kerry has supported Dean and has said he will do good.

[Withywindle]

5. Let the wild rumpus begin!

it's a lot easier for their guy to remain the ideologically pure straight-talker they imagine him to be when he doesn't have an actual, y'know, position of power.

Me, I'm delighted! I suspect he knows exactly how to fight dirty when he has to (and if he doesn't he'll learn) and ignore the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the purer-than-thou.

[Pirate Smile]

6. I was glad to see that he appreciated the strategy of Gingrich. We have

to have some SOB's running things to compete with the bastards on the other side. No more nice guy.

[TayTay]

9. That's going to happen because of the...

ineptitude of the Rethugs. They can run an election, but they cannot govern. Their idea of governing is to try and ram everything down the throats of Congress. This was not working until 9/11, then it did because of extraordinary circumstances. Now those circumstances are changing again. Did you see the budget * submitted today? I think that thing, like his Social Security proposal is DOA. The guy has no political governing ability, he stamps his feet and pouts and says, You have to pass this cuz I'm the King." NFW. (NFW = No F*cking Way.)

The Dems are learning how to block unnecessary proposals from the Idiot King. Now they have to offer their own agenda and make it sound like Democrats. America knows what Dems stand for basically. But the Dems have to own their own stands and people. Maybe Dean can help. I think he is going to be way better on process than people think. Thank goodness. And I think John Kerry can deal with him on most things and respect Dr. Dean enough to realize that he is not a hindrance on other things.

[ginnyinWI]

10. good points

Bush should have his picture next to the word "incompetent" in the dictionary! Rove helps him win, but he is not presidential material, and never was. He was a weak governor who thought he could handle it. Without 9/11 he'd be gone by now. But again Rove stepped up and they used fear to get votes.

Now they can continue to wreck the country, and it is up to the Dems now, and they realize this, to save things. And hopefully some brave and patriotic repubs, too.
Good for Dean--we need someone with the right stuff to get some things done now! And I agree that Kerry will be on the same page with this new DNC chair. Ideologically I don't believe they are very far apart. Both see the new way the party is going toward the grassroots.

[ginnyinWI]

11. it has already begun!

Doubts are being cast! lol :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1570903&mesg_id=1570903

[Pirate Smile]

13. Did you see my "conversation" with you know who?

:eyes:

I was trying to figure out exactly how extreme she is and I think I found out.

[rockymountaindem]

14. That person is an unmitigated disaster.

I had to un-ignore her to see what she said. Holy cow is she obnoxious. Now she's talking about revenge like we're the Hatfields and McCoys? That's the wierdest thing I've ever seen. In defending/extoling Dean she made him out to be petty and vengeful, and I doubt he is either.

I really hope Dean is as sickened or more sickened by these people as/than I am.

[Pirate Smile]

16. Dean campaigned hard for Kerry so I know he wouldn't like that crap.

She pollutes the discourse around here. I don't even understand that level of grudge. It is ridiculous. She never did answer my question.

[Blue_In_AK]

28. Why do I always miss all this good stuff??

Is it because it's four hours earlier up here and by the time I get to DU everybody's already in bed?

[paulk]

15. I was able to follow only half of it

:)

then I logged out to see who you were talking to...


That poster is one of the biggest Kerry haters on the board - I don't understand why she hasn't been tombstoned. Hating Democrats... revenge! With friends this, who needs enemies?

[Pirate Smile]

17. Exactly. I think she hates Kerry more then Bush. Bizarre.

[angrydemocrat]

18. Good Grief

Do these people ever grow up and give it a rest. I mean seriously I understand when it comes to politics that people get pissed and spout off when they shoudn't or say something they regret later or even they stay mad for a while but my gawd. Some of those in that thread hell I don't know it is just ridiculous. When are they doing to learn that you can like more than one dem at a time. Hell some act as if you have to worship one and screw the rest. SHEESH!

[Pirate Smile]

19. I don't get it because I actually like almost all of the Dems that ran

for the nomination. I don't get the hostility still. Is this the first primary process they have ever gone through?

[angrydemocrat]

20. Apparently

That is one thing I learned quick when I joined DU. It a wonder DU has as many members as it does with all the hatred and bashing that constantly goes on. I have heard a many that had it not been for groups like this they would have left along time ago. I also have freinds that have been members and left and won't come back even now that there are groups like this one. But honestly I don't think it will ever stop here at DU I really don't. And I don't understand what these people feel they are going to accomplish by acting like this.

The only democrat I have a hard time lining up behind is Loserman and I'm not trying to jump on the bash dems wagon but it is hard to support that man for anything. He needs to go in 2006. I hope they get a good dem to run against him but if not we will be stuck with him again. Because as bad as he is and to me he sucks he is still better than another republican. But we can only hope they get rid of him with another dem.

[saracat]

26. I feel the same way. I just don't get it!

[ginnyinWI]

21. lol

on my computer, you had a conversation with "Ignored" ! So I guess I've run into her before, whoever she is! She hates Kerry so much she wants a repub to take his seat?? Are these people dems or not?? I guess it is all just a game with them.

[saracat]

22. What thread is it in? Just curious!

[Pirate Smile]

23. The one Ginny links to up above.

[saracat]

25. I just added to it. What an absolute witch!

I actually am repeating myself. She boasted about the same thing in another thread and I replied the samer way!

[elshiva]

24. As a Derryiac, I hope that both Kerrycrats and

Deaniacs give Dean a chance. No, it is not going to be a magical turn around but he will be the best DNC chair for the GLBT people even. PERIOD.
Both Kerry and Dean would have been the best president for GLBT people.
(Their opinions on GLBT people are about the same. They both believe that God makes people gay and that gay people should have the same civil rights as straights.)

[GRLMGC]

27. I'm giving Dean a chance

I figure that with the state that the party is in, a new breath of fresh air couldn't possibly hurt. The status quo isn't working. It's time for a change.

edited for grammar

[elshiva]

29. Thanks. Don't y'all on the JK board think that Dean is for real?

Well most y'all I hear from is Kerrycrats and Kerrycrats know a good Dem when they see 'em, so, ergo y'all gonna give Dean a chance.
God Bless y'all.

[rockymountaindem]

30. I'm giving him a chance.

No one of these men and women is the answer. All of them together, though, should make a good start :)

[sandnsea]

31. I'm rooting for Dean

I'm hoping he goes in there and does exactly what needs to be done. I hope he takes the same positon as Kerry, we don't need to change anything about our principles. We just need to get better organized and tighten up our message so that it's consistent. The only thing I'm worried about with Dean is that he'll end up being just like he was in Vermont and I wouldn't be happy about that at all.