I'm not a vegetarian but I'll have difficulty eating meat tomorrow

[bdf]

After seeing this. That is shitty fucking treatment.

[graywarrior]

1. Rent this movie and read the book

http://www.foodrevolution.org/market/products1.htm

[janetblond]

2. Do you know anything about GMO food?

I have a question?

[graywarrior]

7. Ask away

[janetblond]

8. My question is about GMO rice ...

I found this rice I really like.
But everytime I eat it, my stomach bloats up.
Do you think it's GMO rice?

[graywarrior]

9. What kind is it?

Short grain? Medium? Basmati? White? Brown? Did you buy it bulk or in a package?

[WheelWalker]

3. Amen.

[Warpy]

4. Ever eat a free range chicken?

You can't cut the meat with the side of a fork. You need a real knife.

Grass fed beef isn't melt in your mouth tender and juicy with short cooking. It requires long cooking in liquid to become tender enough to eat without thinking of cow flavored bubble gum. The difference is the feed lot, used for both organically and inorganically grown cattle wherein they stand deep in their own feces and crammed together while being overfed grain so they will put on fat quickly--the fat that contributes to heart disease in people who eat it.

Factory farming produces poor quality meat as well as being horrific for both animals and low paid workers who have to deal with keeping them in those conditions.

Factory farming is just plain wrong, no matter what your position is on eating meat.

[hippywife]

6. That's exactly the diff, Warpy!

We just ate a fabulous rib eye from cattle that has been grass-fed and finished. It was incredible! It's delicious, cruelty free, clean, safe, and it's healthy for me.

I'm so glad we joined our local co-op. The best thing we ever did! :bounce:

[joshcryer]

10. Grass fed beef is the single biggest contributor to rainforest destruction, though.

[bulldogge]

11. I think

you may be surprised to hear this but soy is actually right up there.

[joshcryer]

12. No, soy is a joke compared to grass fed beef:

http://rainforests.mongabay.com/defor_index.htm

The rest is subsistance agriculture (which is arguably indigenous peoples' right).

[Kali]

15. that doesn't seem to be what your source actually says:

about half way down the page from your link:

Causes of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon, 2000-2005
The above pie chart showing deforestation in the Amazon by cause is based on the median figures for estimate ranges. Please note the low estimate for large-scale agriculture. Between 2000-2005 soybean cultivation reesulted in a small overall percentage of direct deforestation. Nevertheless the role of soy is quite significant in the Amazon. As explained by Dr. Philip Fearnside, "Soybean farms cause some forest clearing directly. But they have a much greater impact on deforestation by consuming cleared land, savanna, and transitional forests, thereby pushing ranchers and slash-and-burn farmers ever deeper into the forest frontier. Soybean farming also provides a key economic and political impetus for new highways and infrastructure projects, which accelerate deforestation by other actors."

[joshcryer]

17. They're just saying soy is a problem, but their pie chart shows it at less than 1%.

Cattle ranching still rules the day.

[hipneck]

13. yes, but...

That's because people expect beef to be plentiful and unrealistically cheap - and don't care about the externalized costs.

There are plenty of places where the most sustainable way of using the land to raise food is to keep it in pasture and raise ruminants. Unfortunately we've converted much of that to GMO corn =\

[hippywife]

16. We expect neither.

Even though we don't have very big incomes, not even close, we buy locally raised, grass-fed beef from small farming operations and pay a premium for it.

[joshcryer]

18. It's more that Europeans refuse to eat factory farmed fatty beef, but prefer the grass fed variety.

They're the biggest importers of Brazilian beef.

[Kali]

14. so buy local

not much beef from south America in the US to worry about, anyway - most is going to Europe

[joshcryer]

19. I know, the point to the above poster was that it has its consequences.

Not everyone can have a rural diet, unfortunately.

[jody]

5. Thanks. n/t