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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:48 AM
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U.S. deaths in Iraq remain at 20-month low
U.S. deaths in Iraq remain at 20-month low
By Lori Hinnant - The Associated Press
Posted : Thursday Nov 29, 2007 8:33:01 EST

BAGHDAD The number of U.S. troops killed in November remained at a low not seen since March 2006 on Thursday.

The U.S. military said that an American soldier had been killed by small-arms fire on Wednesday in Baghdad, bringing the number of troops killed in Iraq to 35 for the month so far. In May, as the influx of troops gained momentum, 126 Americans died.

During that six-month period, streets that had been closed during the sectarian fighting have reopened with strict limits: Checkpoints, roadblocks, concrete blast walls, and American and Iraqi patrols are still the norm in many parts of the capital.

But some of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who fled their homeland for neighboring Syria and Jordan and beyond are returning with money, transport and protection from their government. The program also seeks to win favor from neighboring countries such as Syria and Jordan that are struggling with an estimated 2.2 million Iraqi refugees.

Late Wednesday, about 20 buses carrying hundreds of Iraqi refugees rolled into a Baghdad depot the first from the Iraqi-funded effort to speed the return of families. National Security Minister Sherwan al-Waili, who met the convoy, said each returning family would receive $750 to get started rebuilding their lives.

The returning home of displaced families is considered as a great victory for law enforcement and national reconciliation, military spokesman Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi said. We didnt ask any family about his sect or ethnicity. Such things were created by terrorism and will disappear along with terrorism.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:10 AM
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1. Success in Iraq will be.....
when there are NO deaths in a month and the people of Iraq can resume their normal lives again....we are far off from this happening unfortunately.
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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:04 AM
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2. Using that logic...
Crime in America is out of control because we have murders every day.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:12 PM
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3. Can't agree.
Given the size of the military, the death toll in the US per month in 2000 wasn't zero. Somewhere between 100-200 per year, IIRC, although it had been declining before fall '01 (then again, with outsourcing and troop size reductions, some reduction wasn't because of safety improvements).

I guess it makes a difference if the non-hostile death number is cranked up in Iraq. But non-hostile deaths are no easier on the family if they happen at Camp Pendleton or in Wasit Province.

Let's go for zero hostile deaths and peace-time average non-hostile. 26 US hostile-fire casualties for November, as of last night. (And, as I've said elsewhere, I should include the non-hostile deaths minus peacetime non-hostile deaths, but it's too much work; it's also meaningless on a month-per-month basis, since they usually fluctuate so much from month to month.)
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