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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:10 PM
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why " you're so articulate" is considered offensive
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 09:05 PM by SemperEadem
It is a foregone conclusion in this country to too many whites that a black person who is articulate and well spoken is the exception and not the rule for African Americans. "Why", you ask? Because up until around 1863 it used to be AGAINST THE LAW to teach a black person to read. Illegal. 'Thrown in jail and ostracized from society, in danger of having your house burnt to the ground with you and your wife and babies in it--and no witnesses' illegal. Vigilantes would round up their "good ol' boys" to intimidate you (because none of them ever had the balls to do it by themselves.) The laws were drawn up in order to keep the slaves ignorant so that they could not counter the oppressive laws of the country with knowledge and flinging the truth of that knowledge back into the teeth of the oppressors. That was being uppity and an uppity negro would soon find themselves swinging dead from the nearest tree.

Then it was that blacks and white could not attend the same school. The law of the land said separate but equal. Needless to say, black schools were woefully equipped, unlike the white schools. That many overcame obstacles the law placed in their paths should not be something that strikes whites as different or an anomoly, yet it does. They'd overcome quite a bit by that time.

It wasn't but 40 years ago that blacks could not sit at the same lunch counter as whites; or could not drink out of the same water fountain; or could not attend the same schools; black women had only 4 professions open to them: teacher, nurse hairdresser or housekeeper/maid. 40 years, not 140 years. Not 240 years. In my lifetime.

Many whites take strides to face and resolve their issues regarding race. They should be commended. However, it can't be ignored that their parents and grandparents and great-grandparents, on whose knees and in whose arms they as a child sat, were brought up with a very, very different mentality with regards to their status, their 'caste' and their sense of entitlement. The white child's impressionable mind absorbed the ugliness they heard their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents spew about blacks, which was done to inculcate in them the lie and false sense of superiority, caste and entitlement which their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents felt was their birthright, a birthright they didn't want to give up.

When a white person says that a black person is articulate, it is not meant as a compliment, as the white person believes it is. He may have thought that he was extending a compliment, but it is a backhanded compliment. It is meant that they didn't expect for the black person to be equal in expression as they know themselves to be and take for granted they are; they didn't expect to be taken aback and bested (and rendered intimidated) by the black person's intellect--surprised by something about which they should not be surprised in the first place.

To the whites making a fuss about being 'politically correct': You should not be surprised or feel bested, therefore intimidated, by the intellect of any person, yet you are time and time again. And the first refuge you seek is to find fault everywhere else but with how you intially perceived that person and attempted to diminish their intellect by backhanding them with a 'compliment', which is as complimentary as someone throwing up on your shoes. Why can't you just say "that was a strong argument; well done"?

There is a long, ugly and painful history behind a white person telling a black person 'wow--you're so articulate' and it's not the responsibility of the black person to shield the white person from his/her own boorishness. It's each of our responsibility to face our own boorishness and check ourselves.
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M0rpheus Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:40 PM
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1. Well said...
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 01:46 PM by M0rpheus
You might want to crosspost this in GD where more would see it.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:43 PM
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3. May I assure you
those "more" have NO INTEREST in seeing it and much less in UNDERSTANDING it.
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M0rpheus Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 02:29 PM
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4. True enough, Karenina...
No need to start the :banghead:, all over again.

Sigh...



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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:52 AM
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2. Well said!
:thumbsup:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:48 PM
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5. ...because the underlying basic assumption
is that black people as a whole are not articulate. The predominant representations within the media are seen as the norm--the black male actor as thug, street hustler or pimp in a tv movie, the black actress as hooker, teenage runaway or slave. There's also some black athletes shown on the nightly news sports recaps. Are they articulate? Sometimes, but unfortunately often they are not.

What about the times that the street reporter is getting impromptu comments from people regarding incidents. Isn't it interesting that most of the time, the reporters have a knack for finding the LEAST ARTICULATE people on the scene? :shrug:

MTV (and BET to a degree) do little to help the cause. Today's hip hop performers, sadly seem to be a large part of the problem in that they have the most visibility, but few of them speak well--as such, many assume that the few negatives are representative of entire race.

What's even more troubling to me, is this belief that the caucasian race as a whole, has the cornerstone on speaking well and being articulate. Apparently none of the people who hold these beliefs have viewed any episodes of Cops, Jerry Springer or really listened when W is butchering the English language. :crazy:

Just because one lacks exposure to something, doesn't mean it does not exist.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 09:13 PM
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7. Exactly.... ever heard a person from the east end of London talk?
they have the worst diction and elucution and it's their language. However, no one has the expectation that whole lot of them are ignorant because of how one segment of their population talks.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:17 PM
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6. About five years ago I
met a friend for lunch and she spent the whole meal raving about how coordinated my outfit was. The first time she said it it felt like a compliment but after awhile I began to question what she thought of my wardrobe? It's not like ever ran around wearing red polka dots and blue stripes so why the emphasis on this one outfit? I still jokingly tell her that I know she thinks my taste in clothes suck.

Everybody I've told that story to has understood how her compliments could be seen as offensive because it shows she had low expectations of me. Calling black people articulate does the same thing.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:45 PM
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8. A dear but problematic friend
rang my doorbell one day unannounced. As she entered my flat she exclaimed, "WOW! It's so well organized and decorated! I didn't expect it to be so NICE!" THAT was her idea of a compliment. :eyes:
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