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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:50 AM
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"The Re-Calibration With a Very New Plan" - Karen Bishop - July 28, 2009
The following information was in the E-mail notice that Karen sent:

If you are tired and worn out, and absolutely do not care about
one more WINGS post, or even what this strange and challenging
ascension process is doing NOW, or perhaps even feeling that
maybe there is no ascension process and there never was, or even
that you just want out of here and have lost all faith, I do not
blame you, as I have these feelings myself as well from time to
time. We are human beings still, and can take so much. What a ride
it has been, and because it has gone on for so very long, we are
now being granted a very special asylum and being given our gold
watches and ticket to heaven, NO MATTER WHAT IS OCCURRING WITH
THE REST OF THE PLANET! If you are still alive and functioning,
please read on and access the newest WINGS post for further
information about our new state of grace. And thank you for sticking
with me, if indeed, you still are.

Now on to the latest WINGS post:

The Re-Calibration With a Very New Plan
Karen Bishop
July 28, 2009


A very new plan is in the process of being put into place, and it is a much needed plan indeed.

Those who have been diligently going through the ascension process, letting go of so much, purging and releasing all these years, and transmuting so much of the darker energies for the planet, have now been sequestered, while we wait for a new energetic space to be preparedand this is a space that has to be created with very new circumstances.

We have come far, let go of nearly everything, prepared ourselves for a very new reality with a very new life, and yet others below and far below us on the rungs of the ascension ladder have not come up as was perhaps very possible.

For the past several days or even weeks, this new plan has been in the process of being considered, and it wasnt but a few hours after posting the last WINGS message that it soon became a sure thing. For those who were very ready indeed for their new beginning, it was decided by the powers that be (who are, in actuality, our very own souls as we are the ones creating and experiencing this process ourselves), that the time was now up. No more waiting for others to get on board, no more gathering as many of the lower vibrating energies as possible to assist them and prepare them for the trip, and no more responsibility for the role of raising the vibration of the entire planet. That job is very much over.

We are indeed done. VERY DONE.

So then, there then existed a group of souls who had left all their baggage behind, who had been waiting at the gate for what seemed an eternity, and these souls needed a place to be, a place to come home to, but most importantly, even though this place had already been created, a new dimensional hierarchy,so to speak, needed to now be put into place. These souls needed to be taken care of and placed in their new heaven on earth.

This means that there will now be a massive chasm or gap between our new rung on the ascension ladder, and the rungs below us. We could wait no longer, as we had already added a good year or two to the plan, graciously and lovingly allowing as many souls as possible to be on board, and any more waiting is no longer possible.

The sequestering phase is an interesting one, I must say. For me, I experienced an entire harem of my star family in the non-physical, hanging in my space for several days, basically removing me from any outside experiences, influences, or interaction. I had been airlifted off the planet (while still being here, of course), as a very distinct ending had occurred. And a huge ending it was. Our entire experience thus far on this planet since our birth this time around, has now been very much completed. It is very over indeed. We have been decidedly removed from what is now occurring with the remainder of the planet (for more information about was is occurring on the lower rungs, kindly access the previous WINGS post for July 23.)

So even though there was a massive upheaval and disruption on the lower rungs of the ascension ladder, due to the solstice energy, many of the souls residing there had too far to go to catch up. I have never seen such an amazing sight during this time in regard to assistance from the higher vibrating non-physical arena. Many souls departed, and others went through acute challenges. There were angels and beings everywhere, assisting these souls in their process. Every nook and cranny was filled with assistance in the most loving and dedicated ways as I have never seen before, for these souls on the lower rungs. In the past few days, things have settled down and re-aligned some for those who experienced great upheavals and physical health challenges, but their new space is still not where it was originally intended. The challenge was far too great and much too uncomfortable for these souls, and thus, the new plan was created.

Up until this point, the fore-runners had been letting go and preparing in small steps so as to experience this transition with more ease, and now the door is completely shut with all things from the old reality and old world completely severed. Being removed from the planet, taken home again (or really just placed in an energetic holding cell) was a dramatic and surreal experience for me. I am sure that many of you have felt the same, but in your own ways, and with your own specific feelings and knowingness.

We have been placed in this holding cell, with this sequestering, because the new energetic layout of the hierarchies is currently being put into place and being re-created. It has to be re-created because the plan changed. So then, there is now a very new plan being put into form, and this is taking a short while. And again, know that we are, as always, at our soul levels, at the helm of this very new and needed plan. We needed to move forward, if even without many of our brothers and sisters who are following behind.

Some manifestations? Electronics may act strangely (but I suppose that happens a lot anyway for many of us!). I cannot get a good reception on my cell or land line phones. The person on the other end simply disappears for short periods of time and then returns. Batteries may go dead after short periods of time. We may suddenly feel as though we have been given some time off for a very needed vacation, or perhaps that we are being asked to wait or find something to do for a brief period, as we have been removed from everything for awhile (I realize that many of you have been having this experience already for some time now, but this is a bit different.)

We may experience unusual feelings of being safe, protected, and with a great sense of calm that we know at some level that we are being watched over and that everything is going to be perfectly fine very soon. We may feel that things are being done for us, that someone or something is working diligently on something on our behalf, and that all we need do is to wait.

We may feel that our responsibilities are very over...these old roles of raising the vibration of the planetand thus, we may feel that we now get to retire and have a much needed break. We may feel far away from many others, and that we are going somewhere where they are not. This feeling can at times create a bit of a panic, but know as well, that we can always remain connected to those whom we love, as love is a high vibration that always serves to connect everything.

We may feel very alone, and that those seemingly entering our space are not aware of what we are aware of, that they are very lost, and even child-like in their energy. We may have absolutely nothing arriving for us now, but at the same time, have a simple thought and something can appear.

We may feel that it is time to simply walk away from any prior responsibilities we may have not yet been released from, as they have been holding on for far too long and we no longer have a modicum of connection left to them. We may continue to be kicked out from anything in the old world. We may be asked to stay away, causing some confusion at times, but as always, we are being placed right where we need to be. We can no longer be in those energies as we no longer live there. Hanging out there will make us feel like invisible ghosts, most assuredly.

There is a big division occurring now, and when things have completed their process of being put into place once again, there will be a group of souls at one end of the spectrum, far removed from the masses. The chasm will be much greater than was planned. And these souls will oh so naturally begin connecting to each other and begin creating a very new reality indeed. It will be a smaller group than was expected, and there will be new rules associated with these new changesnew rules in regard to what and who we will now interact with and how.

We do not need to do anything now but wait for this new hierarchy to be set up and created. During this time, it will be very quiet. Things will slow down for everyone, not just those at the top rung. A massive re-calibration is going into effect. Everything had to stop in order to be re-set once again. In this way, much of anything entering our spaces is comprised of things that are lost, dis-connected, or simply flying around in confusion, and usually, vibrating fairly low or far below us.

Because of this fact, it is important that we do not attempt to create anything new right now, as we would only attract or have these confused energies, come into our stopped and temporary reality.

We are now being asked to enjoy ourselves for a while, if we can. To take a vacation, let go, explore, have fun, and simply be in the moment with those we love and with things we had not had time to engage in before. Our car is at the repair shop being fixed up, and we have been asked to read a magazine, go for a walk, or work on a creative project until it comes out of the shop and we can then move forward once again.

So even though we may have been moving forward in some ways for a little while, or felt that we were now right where we needed to be, there has been a change of plans, and this change needs to be firmly put into place before we can resume once again.

And when things resume within this new hierarchy and grid, we will finally find ourselves within a very new realityeven though the process had more twists and turns than we might have expected!

With much love and gratitude,

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:55 AM
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1. The following book excerpt was in the E-mail notification...
From The Ascension Companion:

Your Ascension Guide

AS WE NAVIGATE through this confusing and many times
challenging process of ascension, we may feel very alone and
vulnerable. It can seem as though we have been dropped here on
Earth with no support to handle all that is happening to us.
Believe it or not, this is not the case.

Each and every one of us has a beautiful ascension guide who
monitors our progress at each and every turn. This process of
ascension was created by us at soul levels. We decided to raise
the consciousness (or vibration) of Earth as a group, through
ourselves, in order to begin again. We have to go through this
process ourselves by experiencing it firsthand. This can create
moments of disconnect, chaos, fear, and near everything else. So
for the most part, we certainly do not feel at the helm ourselves.
I first became aware of ascension guides when I was reading
the energy of a friend going through the process. Lo and behold,
there standing right next to her was a big, beautiful non-physical
being who was practically "guarding" her as she went through
her process. This being was making sure that things did not get
out of hand and go too far. He (it) was making sure that she was
benefiting and growing through her process as it had been
planned, instead of having the process weaken or destroy her.
Ascension guides are here to make sure that nothing goes too
far in regard to our "stretching."

The next encounter I had with an ascension guide was when I
connected with my own. I was having a really rough time and
basically coming unglued. In popped this huge non-physical
being who proceeded to tell me that it was my attitude that was
making everything far worse than it needed to be. From that day
forward, I knew that someone was indeed there for me, and what
a wonderful feeling it was.

Any non-physical beings that we are especially connected to,
rarely interfere with our process (if they are highly vibrating
beings). And this is especially true for ascension guides.
Although they need to be especially "hands off," they come from
a deep place of love and caring for us. And know too, that we are
going through this process for them as well. They freely admit
this and are therefore very grateful and highly respectful of who
we are and what we are doing. We are ascending for all of the
cosmos. Even though they know more than we consciously do
right now, we will eventually surpass them.

It is a sure fact that we are the stars of the show. All the attention
and the lights are on us, as we progress through this process of
ascension. There is so much help and support on board, even
though we may not be able to see or sense it at times. It is
because we are on the front-lines. We are in the thick of it. So at
times, we cannot see the forest for the trees.

All of this said, here's a little secret. Our ascension guides are
really only higher vibrating aspects of ourselves. When I finally
sat down and really read the energy of my ascension guide, I
truly remembered who I was. I WAS THIS GREAT, ANCIENT,
AND MAGNIFICENT BEING. What an eye-opener this was. And
as I connected the dots, I could clearly see that this being had
been there for me all along. He (it) had been at the foot of my bed
in the year 2000, telling me that something that would change
me forever was about to occur. He had been at my hospital
bedside after I had shattered my leg. He had been there when I
was whining to no end during my ascension process, and now he
is here as a true and good friend who continues to connect me to
the higher realms through himself. These beings bring in the
higher energies. We are able to connect much higher when we
begin vibrating much higher. It is then that we are with them on
a much more regular basis. As we begin vibrating higher and
higher, we will then connect with much higher guides, but we
will really be only connecting with much higher aspects of

If you find yourself having a difficult time, know that you may
call on your ascension guide. If you are not particularly
psychic, just ask for a sign. Ask your guide to show you that he
(it) is there. Ask your guide to deliver to you in a form that you
can easily receive, what you currently need to know to assist you
on your journey. Whether it be a passage in a book, a phrase
from a conversation from a friend, or perhaps something on TV,
you can ask that a message be given to you.

Asking for a sign is a good way to validate something if you don't
have a lot of psychic ability, or even if you do and are just very
stressed and cannot connect very well right then. One time, right
before my ascension process really began, I needed a job. I was
getting downloads of information that fit in with not "working"
anymore, but I wasn't quite there yet. I got hired as the director
for the United Way. I didn't really want to do that kind of thing
anymore...I had done it forever. So I quit after one day. Boy, I
certainly sound like a flake, but I wanted to stay in alignment!
After this, I didn't trust my judgment much. None-the-less, I
gave things some thought, and I decided that I would really love
to be a grant fit in well with a lot about me. But I was
afraid of going down the wrong road once again, so I asked for a
sign. While in the dusty back rooms of the local newspaper office
one day, looking through their archives, as I had remembered an
ad for a grant writer weeks earlier, I got my sign. I was unable to
locate the ad. As I put up the last huge bound archive book, there
was nothing left on the dusty table below it but an old, outdated
newspaper page. On it was an ad for a department store, and in
absolutely huge letters was the word GRANTS. So I got my sign,
the flood gates flew open with many synchronicities, and I
became a trained grant writer within weeks.

But here's another little secret. There is really no one deciding
our path for us or letting us know what we should or shouldn't be
doing. I received the grant writing confirmation because I
created it myself. I was much more in alignment with it than
anything else. We're the ones that make a path right...we're the
ones that are the powerful creators. When we ask for a sign, just
like our ascension guides, it is really us giving the sign. We
just don't trust our own judgment yet and like to place the power
outside of ourselves because we think something out there knows
more than we do. We are far greater creators than we believe.
Handing our power over to something else, gets us out of the
way, which is a perfect energetic alignment for creating!
If you have chosen this page, know that you are not alone. We
each have a loving and protective ascension guide at our side
who is monitoring our progress at each and every turn. Even
though these amazing and caring beings are really aspects of
ourselves, they still exist in the forms that we picture them in.
They are us in our future state, and therefore love and care about
us like no one else. Thank goodness for ascension guides!

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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:43 PM
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10. This all so resonates with me!!
Especially in conjunction with my "Calling all Angels" post from a week or so ago!! One of my biggest concerns in re to letting go of the old to make way for the new, was letting go of my beloved grandson. He's turning 3 on Aug. 8th, and I'm finding myself more, and more in love with this child every time I'm with him! I told MG a year or so ago that I was concerned about his limited verbal abilities, and that my daughter had a speech therapist working with him. They believed he was a high functioning Autistic child. MG said not to be fooled, he would talk when he's damned good and ready. Well the floodgates have opened!!! When I arrived at his house today, he came running to the kitchen door to greet me with "hi gramma!,...oh excuse me ....I mean hi Nana!!" I almost wet my pants laughing. See... his Daddy's Mom is "gramma", and I'm "Nana"!
God knew what HE (SHE) was doing for me when he sent us Aidan Leigh!!! I don't know how I got onto the subject of my grandson, except maybe my sleeping pill is kicking in and I'm getting loopy???? G'nite all! JA:silly: Oh! I remember the point now... she assured us that nothing ever comes between.... us... and.... love !!:loveya:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:16 AM
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12. Hee hee
So glad to hear about Aiden's "development", JA! Now the fun part--watch the incredible level of intelligence and the massive vocabulary this little one is going to start exhibiting!

MG Jr. is 5 1/2 and--goddess as my witness--last week he was commenting on how when grandma turned the car off, all the needles on the car gauges dropped to zero--"the gas, the temperature, the speedometer, the tachometer..."

And my response was "WTF is a tachometer?!" Yeah, the kid knew it was the RPM indicator. I DIDN'T!

Good luck keeping up, JA! Trust me--you're gonna need it!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:20 PM
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2. Very interesting. Thanks, IHAD


How do you guys feel about this one?

For me, it "feels" right on (although I don't really understand the hierarchical system in the way she describes it, nor do I need to) far as things feeling on hold, but chaotic at the same time with confusing energies and interactions with others.

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:43 PM
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3. It felt right,
until she said Not to try and create anything right now. Here I am all excited about Fire the Grid and she says wait! But, then again, I had a dream that said "wait!" not that long ago. Fiddlesticks!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:51 PM
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4. As feared, I missed the doorway.
My own fault. I had plenty of opportunity.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:59 PM
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5. I haven't read this yet since I'm working, FWWM, but I don't believe...
that you've missed anything; you just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing wonderfully. The Universe will not let your efforts be for naught.


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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:10 PM
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6. Thanks!
I of course will not stop, and will not waste the gifts that have been given me (I am obliged to do what I can for others, in repayment)'s just that I didn't get where I believe I could have been. Far too much ego remaining in me, and that is only my fault.

I'll keep on plugging away. Prayer is my main hobby :)

:hug: :hi:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:14 PM
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7. ...

"I didn't get where I believe I could have been."

Ahhhhh, I think we all feel this way, some of us more often than others.

You are one of the most positive souls I've encountered. You truly do.

Hugs of gratitude for you, Fire Walk With Me.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:23 PM
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8. Yes, he truly inspires me as well.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:02 PM
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9. I feel like I've been in a holding pattern forever
That all the false starts of the last 7 years were just to keep me busy while I cleaned out old wounds and burned karma. Sometimes I've "heard" my spirit guides discussing me over the years, but not often, and I can *barely* tune in most of the time. There hasn't been the continuous, free communication that I enjoyed until the summer of '01. There is one time I *always* hear my higher self/soul guide/whatever...and that's when I meditate on winning the lottery. There is always a "no" and it annoys me to no end, lol. I buy the ticket now and then, just in case.

This summer, after recapitulation throughout June's nonstop rain, I felt really empty and cleaned out of old wounds, until that one stubborn one re-surfaced with the solar eclipse and then burned itself out. And I'm back to feeling empty again. I do my daily farm chores -- as much as necessary as little as possible.

I don't feel like I belong here. But I also have no idea where I do belong.

I have no desire to go "out" into the old world again. Yet I still live in the old world, where money is required.

I hear my guardian spirits sporadically. I am able to manifest sporadically.

I've taken to playing a tape of native flute music at bedtime. I meditate, then lie down and fall asleep to it, sleep well and am starting to dream better again with it on.

Following yesterday's panic, I got 3 gifts from the universe. First, my August financial reprieve. Next I discovered that the "mystery plant" in my garden is actually one of my "daughter" echinaceas. The mother plant and her other daughter were murdered by the crazed snow plower last winter. x( This daughter is doing beautifully and covered with flowers, so hopefully will herself become a new mother. :) While examining her opening buds, I wondered how my hummingbirds were doing in this awful, rainy and foggy weather. A few hours later, I looked out the window and saw Mrs. Hummer feeding at the bee balm, so my question was answered. (Last time I saw her, she was trapped in my barn for the 3rd time in a row!).

Today the Subway job returned. And I got an equifax notice that my credit union checked my credit rating yesterday, so it looks as though even with an income of 0 and occupation of student, I'm being considered for a HELOC! And this morning's interview with "the dark side" went well.

I will try the job at Subway and see what happens. I like the thought of baking bread. And the sandwiches there really are pretty good...

But none of it feels right. None of it feels like where I belong. I could walk away from it all, except my babies of course. I have an urge to spend the winter making tincture from salva divinorum and something else, and seeing if it will free up my creativity. I really want to be in a different kind of world....

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:12 AM
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11. "Wait"
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 01:21 AM by MorningGlow
Yep, how many times have we said this to one another in this group! But still :banghead: for how long?!

So this resonates in that way; however, I was a little dismayed that this message sounds so much like the Christian "rapture"--the separation, the people left behind, implying they're "not good enough" even though I'm sure that's not Karen's intent. I'm not sure I feel comfortable with that part--or maybe that's just because I'm an empath and think nobody is hopeless and should be left behind. :(

On edit: This just popped into my head. Seems apropos. :)

It's been a long time
Now I'm coming back home
I've been away now
Oh how I've been alone
Wait till I come back to your side
We'll forget the tears we've cried

But if your heart breaks
Don't wait, turn me away
And if your heart's strong
Hold on, I won't delay
Wait till I come back to your side
We'll forget the tears we've cried

I feel as though
You ought to know
That I've been good
As good as I can be
And if you do
I'll trust in you
And know that you
Will wait for me

It's been a long time
Now I'm coming back home
I've been away now
Oh how I've been alone
Wait till I come back to your side
We'll forget the tears we've cried

I feel as though
You ought to know
That I've been good
As good as I can be
And if you do
I'll trust in you
And know that you
Will wait for me

It's been a long time
Now I'm coming back home
I've been away now
Oh how I've been alone
Wait till I come back to your side
We'll forget the tears we've cried

It's been a long time
Now I'm coming back home
I've been away now
Oh, how I've been alone
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 06:57 AM
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13. my sentiments *exactly* MG
I didn't have the words yet to wrap around my gut response to this, because I was distracted yesterday by my interview with "the dark side" and other immediate events.

But those *exact* feelings came up in me too. I wanted to start a thread on "how many different groups of people seem to expect to be lifted to a better place, with the rest of us great unwashed left behind?"

Last week, after reading The 4th Awakening, and the threads around that, I found myself reading about Timothy Leary. Another one who expected a group of "speshal" people to leave the great unwashed behind on earth. Apparently, he expected the "speshal ones" (including him of course) to physically colonize other planets. I found myself wondering if it was a little too much LSD, or maybe a tainted batch ;)

But the theme is the same. The rapture people. The various elitists who honestly expect to colonize other planets after they despoiled earth. And now the ascensionists.

I'm sure it's not Karen Bishop's *intent* to come across as elitist. You wrote elsewhere (above somewhere?) that you thought initially your reaction was due to ego. I intended to reply there (but will here instead or maybe along with) that I do think you are right. Your gut reaction is a matter of ego. I'm not convinced, however, that it is *your* ego that is the problem.

And I think they run into a problem when they start giving specific dates, and then nothing happens for their followers. Suddenly, we're still "speshal"...just not "speshal enough."

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 10:04 AM
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14. Thanks, NL--I think I'm especially sensitive to this because
it was a big issue with my former elder and it became one of the things that convinced me she and I should part company. She was a firm believer that only the most evolved people would ascend. Yet no matter how much we meditated or did other things, we were never "ready". I couldn't abide the "separationist" viewpoint she held, because in my mind it implied that some people were more "speshal" than others, as you said. So it became a kind of competition and encouraged elitism--who was doing the "right" things and who was judged as being "worthy" and "unworthy" even by fellow members of our coven.

Plus, IMO, that kind of view is based in fear--fear that you're not good enough, fear that you'll be left behind (ooh or another version of hell--being banished to the place of pain and despair?), fear that you're missing out.

I've been calling some people's perception of the Shift as a "New Age version of the rapture" and as far as I'm concerned, they can believe it if they like, but that is not the reality I choose. I'm not going to go so far as to say that this is where Karen and I part company permanently, but my grain of salt regarding this particular element of the movement toward 2012 has gotten a scoche (sp?) larger. I will continue to read her messages, but I choose not to buy into this particular viewpoint. :shrug:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 10:43 AM
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15. Thanks for articulating what I'm thinking
The division sounds exclusionary and fails to recognize that redemption can come at any time in an instant. (Oops -- my Catholic school education just escaped from its long-locked up existence)
Your articulation of the issue helped me realize why I couldn't quite go along with Karen.
Also, I thought many of her symptoms sounded menopausal, not enlightened.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 10:55 AM
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16. I love that!

"many of her symptoms sounded menopausal, not enlightened"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I agree with what you guys are saying about NOT agreeing with the separationist aspect of things. That is what has disturbed me of late with messages such as these.

I have a hard time expressing what DID resonate a bit about this, but if I ignore the hierarchical aspect to her messages, 'cause that really puts me off, and simply think about the energy flows that we are witnessing around us, I start to form a bit of an "aha" moment.

I'm more interested in common experiences we all share and how it may indicate certain universal energetic flows at play.

I'm making no sense, so I'll shut up. I KNOW I sound all menopausal.



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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 02:48 PM
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17. the symptoms *are* the same as menopause
And her explanation that they are not menopause because men get the symptoms too doesn't wash.

Men go through hormonal changes at midlife as well as women. They aren't necessarily as dramatic, so the symptoms tend to be milder. But they are the same symptoms.

A lot of the symptoms also can be situational. Everybody is stressed now, including those at the top, if only because they fear those at the bottom have caught on to their game and are after them with torches and pitchforks.

It also fails to recognize that some people may be staying in the old world to care for dependents. Unlike some people, I will not treat my critters like old baggage, and simply abandon them to fend for themselves.

And some people may be staying the in the old world, even though they want to leave, because they are needed there to effect change and haven't gotten *those* assignments yet. I'm putting myself in that category at the moment, re my interview on "the dark side."

In any event, if I had to put a date on anything, I'd hold out for 12/21/12 anyway. I suspect anything will be incremental until then.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:40 PM
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18. Huh. I don't find her to be elitist at all. There are beings at extremely differing developmental
positions throughout creation, and these levels of development are simply facts. I don't find her gloating at all, just sharing her experience.

I have found myself in resonance with a lot of what she has written and posted, and "felt" some sort of closing regarding what she's talking about here. I felt something at the Solstice and it continues to build. I AM surprised that most of us didn't get off the ground (being one among them)...this means that we'll have to work extra hard as the 2012 energy ramps up. I can definitely see it in the people around me, and on the news...those with "baggage" are having it presented to them, and many are not reacting well. The frightened and irritable are becoming worse, the greedy are grasping even harder, etc. Darkness is not increasing; the reality of ourselves is increasing, and it will continue until we make the required changes to live in the higher dimensions.

I know that if I were in the space in which she describes herself as currently being, where thought is instant manifestation, I'd be in trouble. I'm using the new energy to continue "undressing" from my ego, and strongly recommend that others who need to, will...before it demands such, through necessity...cheers to all those who will have little problem here...
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:03 PM
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19. I didn't see anybody say she was "gloating"
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 05:04 PM by northernlights
Some of what she writes resonates with me. Some does not.

And I'm sorry, but dumping a kitten that never learned to hunt, and is partially paralyzed to boot, to fend for itself in a rural area because her guides told her it's really wants to be a feral cat strikes me as making excuses and justifying cruelty to a dependent that became inconvenient. If its following her into the kitchen and crying, and inability to control its bowels were that inconvenient, she could have either kept it outside in a shed or found a better home, or taken it to a shelter or had it euthanized. Dumping it in a rural area to "heal or starve or be eaten" was cruel. Period.

I have never forgotten that incident and I have taken everything she writes with a large grain of salt since, no matter how much any of it resonates. The bottom line is that she can have all the "ascension" experiences she wants. And she can claim to be a more "ascended" being in "higher" vibration than the rest of us. She still abandoned a kitten to starve or be eaten.

Spinal injuries don't heal on command. They take months to heal, when they heal at all. I don't care how ascended she thinks she is or how she supposedly manifests on command, if she gets hit by a car and is partially paralyzed I doubt very much that she'll heal instantly because she can supposedly instantly manifest. I notice she has yet to manifest a buyer for her 8 acres in New Mexico.

If she wants to look at me as "childish" that is her right. I will still see her someone who takes in baby animals when they're cute and dumps injured, dependent baby animals out of sight to starve when they become inconvenient.
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:04 PM
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22. Wow... I didn't know about that, northernlights...
I have to say I'm with you on that, too. Life is life, and it's ALL sacred. The image of that little kitten being dumped like that makes me very, very sad. You're right. That was just cruel, and doesn't speak much to me about enlightenment. :( I also had a cat several years ago who had suffered from a spinal injury. I would never have dreamed of abandoning him somewhere. I cared for him every day of his brief life, no matter how inconvenient, until he finally died from his injuries... because he was, as you say, a dependent being, and he was my responsibility. I did the same with our 22-year-old cat who recently passed away. Her final years were incredibly difficult for us, and a lot of people would probably have chosen to have her euthanized, but I could never even think about that, because she struggled so very hard to live. She wasn't in pain. She was just 'inconvenient,' and required a lot of special care. She fought for life until she took her last breath, as was her right, and I wasn't about to take that from her for any reason. When we take a companion animal into our lives, they are, like children, our responsibility. If you can't accept that responsibility, then you probably shouldn't take an animal into your life. I take that pretty seriously. Anyone who may have read what I've written about my animal friends elsewhere here probably already knows that about me. So, yes, this disturbs me greatly, too, and I am very sorry to read this. :(
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:23 PM
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23. "Gloating" was my word. Sorry. I took it from "Elitist".
The kitten incident perplexes and hurts me as well.

The vast majority of her work is of great benefit to me, so I'll stick with it regardless. I've made severe mistakes as well, but do not wish the baby to be thrown out with the bathwater. :shrug:
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 06:43 PM
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20. Just wanted to post to say I'm with you on this part, too, MG...
The hierarchal 'rapture' aspects don't appeal to me, either.

I've always resonated more with Kuan-Yin energy -- particularly the story of Her as an enlightened Being who had earned ascension, but refused to ascend until the rest of humanity could ascend with Her, and chose to remain behind to work toward that goal. That resonates deeply with me. I'm just not much of a hierarchy person anyhow, not in any aspects of my life, whether spiritual or mundane. I found that part of this message to be, sadly, disturbing. :(
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:01 PM
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21. Maybe this would help resolve the difference in viewpoints here:
"In terms of linear time, we are not quite sure how long it takes to complete this "earth school" because we have not yet reached fifty percent graduation of all the souls that have entered the system. But, on average, we can estimate that it takes a hundred million years of evolution to graduate. Some of us have declared with pride that we were old souls. But, when we look at the system as a school that simply means that we are slow learners."


"You can tell when eleventh graders are ready to transition because they are willing to give up. "I have worked my whole life to try and stop war and it still goes on. I quit." Surrendering is the only way that we ever get anywhere in this system. In that very process of giving up they will have become twelfth graders.

As we are all very aware, on this patriarchal, masculine dominated planet, giving up is supposed to be tantamount to failure. That makes it difficult to surrender to a power and wisdom greater than ourselves to guide our lives.

Not yet graduates, twelfth graders find themselves back on earth and they wonder what the hell they are doing here. They are the transition team, here to facilitate the graduation process of the earth. There are gobs of people who declare themselves to be part of the planetary transition team, but, in effect, most of them are people who are intellectualizing and rationalizing their way or are so hung up on their causes that they cannot be objective. Most of those who really are members of the transition team dont have a clue. They just want to go home. In the process of finding their way home they will lead the planet home too."

and of course there's a ton more.
I prefer this way of looking at 'ascencion' because it doesn't discount anyone at a "lower grade level"; but the same symptoms that we see people touting 'ascension' apply. At least, that's how I read it. But each to their own..

I do understand what you all are saying about Karen's bent; I just think her personal frustration at the general stagnant energies are getting the best of her.

Rest of book:

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