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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 03:35 PM
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PC, please tell us more about karma and what the "boomerang"
effect means from the PC perspective, and also whatever you can share along the lines of what changes they see coming. I also wonder what walks of life they are from and how they came to realize their gifts, and do they share common spiritual/religious beliefs?

Your group seems to be an interesting one and I'm sure everyone would like to learn more about them. Go esoteric on us... it's like food for the soul. TIA!

(And BTW no one here tires of political predictions...)


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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:23 PM
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1. Just saw this post, working on responses....
Some of the team has been out of town......
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 10:17 AM
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2. Boomerang karma….
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 10:39 AM by Psychic Consortium
This concept is not yet totally clear to us, but it feels like a speeding up of karma. Whatever is given out comes back quickly. Unlike in the past, when evil was allowed to flourish unchecked.

The concept was very evident in the presidential campaign, whatever McCain did, seem to come back to haunt him or hurt him very quickly. Also other politicians seem to have chickens coming home to roost at this time, good or bad.

It is feeling that with the new energy coming to earth, what ever is given out by a person will come back more quickly. In the past this was not the case. But will be more what happens in the newer energy.
What ever hits you at this time, try to resolve.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 03:35 AM
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35. Karma and Destiny ...
...for the longest time I had a hard time trying to discern how we could HAVE karma and *not* have destiny, yet I could not see a loving Creator who decided our destiny for us while saying it was our choice, so it was confusing to me. Then I realized something about karma that has put me at ease. Whether it is true or not is another thing, lol.

I see karma this way: It is like when I plan a trip somewhere. I decide where I am going to go and it is based upon why I want to go there. Then I get out a map and plan the route, where I will stop for food, and rest, etc. But what if in the middle of the trip my car breaks down or the route I planned to take is under construction, or a big tornado hits the place I decided to stop and I have to go somewhere else to eat and rest, so I have to find a different way? What if my detour leads me to a totally different destination and I never reach the original one? Or a stranger comes to my aid and takes me to her town for my car to be fixed and I have to stay there for awhile? And what if while I am there I meet someone, or find out something about the town that makes me want to stay there? But the reasons why I decided to go to my original destination may be right there in the place I decided to go instead. Or I may never reach the destination and change my goals after deciding not to go any further.

Bottom line is still, while I am kind of at the mercy of everything around me, I make the decisions as to what I am going to do in response and this is where the karma I earn good or bad, that comes to fore. What I decide to do ~ hold up someone and demand they take me home and feed me? Give up and sit down at the side of the road and starve to death? Abandon my car? Come upon another fellow traveler who is in trouble and help them?

You know where I learned about this responsibility? From some elders I knew as a young adult, who were the first generation descendents of slaves. They used to tell me these stories about how they ran things, being considered "stupid" and having NO power in society, and how they used to manipulate things to get their goals met. They used to laugh and laugh about it. They told me how they would do things right under the "master's" noses and get away with it because they were considered so stupid, (it was nothing bad and usually for the good of all and because the "master" was an idiot and made idiotic decisions that would have hurt everyone), whudda thunk they would be more clever than the slave owner? Because I loved them, I did not understand for a long time what was so funny. I was young and the whole thing angered me because I saw they had wisdom as well as smarts and they were not given the credit I thought they deserved. Now I know what they were trying to teach me: that true power is something YOU own even in the most "helpless" situations, you can decide to be the victim or you can decide to look at the situation and use it to your advantage. In the end YOU decide ...

This was scary to me at first because it meant that no matter how out of control I may be about a situation, it is still my responsibility as to what I decided to do. I could not blame anyone else for the outcome then, yeah I might be mad at the tornado for thwarting me, or I might feel regret I never got to my original destination, but in the end I OWN what I decided to do. Ack!

So yeah, even if the whole plan is up to me in this life (and not the Creator), I may have set the stage, who I was born to, planned meetings along the way, but if I have free will, then so does everybody else have free will, which means my plans may go awry when they change theirs or something happens that gets in the way of the goal. I just can't see that I could coordinate everything just-so so it turns out exactly the way I planned it nor that some Creator manipulated things so things happened in some lock-work like coordinated way. It is all up to me to navigate, to learn what I need to learn from it. I am the captain of my ship, so to speak so when I leave here and evaluate, I may realize that I have to come back because I have some goals to reach I did not in the first place.

Is this a good way to understand karma and destiny for me? I dunno! If there is a better analysis, boy would I like to hear it!

Love,
Cat In Seattle
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:24 AM
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36. You are correct.
And a very interesting discussion about karma.

Yes we chose the broad outlines of our lives.
And some things are karmic destiny, they will happen.
But most are free will issues and all is grist for the mill.
We are here to learn and grown and deal with what is thrown our way
the best we can. Even if it was not originally in our karmic plan
we must handle it. Everything is an opportunity to learn and grow.

BTW PC is very interested in the family story you relate.
PC has seen for a long time that this is a piece of how Obama got elected and how he will stay safe and successful. He knows how to operate in hostile dangerous waters. So does Michelle. They understand power, the use of it, etc...
it is a complex dynamic that you raise with this story. But it is known to PC
that Obama has used this history to be a good leader in difficult times.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:27 AM
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37. Awesome post, Cat.

Much appreciated. :)


:hug:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:14 AM
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38. The family skill set you describe so well is what helped Obama win the election
and his mother in law knows this the best.
She understands him very well and helps him in many many ways.
It was critical that she come to Wash DC to live with the family.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 12:52 PM
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41. If this is so, it is a blessing ...
...as we had in another conversation, I think women have learned this skill of manipulation as well, especially when we had little power in the early part of my life (late 50's on).

And while we often see this way of getting things as something "dishonest" or "too subtle" the skills of "manipulation" are something that can be for the good. From my vantage point as a low income women, I have seen where it may be the only way when a "master" is pompous and elitist and refuses to see value in anything but their own criteria for what is "smart" and what is not. As an activist I have sure seen it, even in the most well meaning people in power who often refuse to listen to the "unwashed masses" because somehow they "know" and we don't. But no longer am I frustrated with that as I realize in getting a point across no matter what arbitrary deadlines they set for themselves that make them think what those like me see is impossible, well really you have all the time in the world because see, like my elder friends I know now, I am just planting seeds, I am not expecting to see the whole tree tomorrow. And I am working in a finite world, which resides in an infinite universe and so if the seed is a hardy one (if it is the Truth) and well cared for (the Truth just does not die like illusions and lies do) then it WILL grow.

While these folks I talk about above that I knew were not my family (I am white) I believe what they taught me was important and I was meant to hear, and perhaps as a white woman they saw potential in me I could not see. I know one thing now; I was privileged that they gave to me that wisdom, which really should not have been given to me as a young idealistic white woman with a whole lot of ignorance that I am sure they saw! LOL

As President Obama had for a mother too, I know as the white mother of minority children (Mexican-American), there were things I just did not get about what it is like growing up non-white ~ even though I was their mother. You love them, you gave birth to them, and so you just think you know, when there are times that you don't. So in truth, I was often not much better than the politicians I have tried to convince at times, and it was worse because they did not have the words to articulate their confusion and how to deal with the subtle prejudice they encountered. I am now raising my grand niece who partially shares my culture but is also African American. I hope I understand this a little better, or if at the very least that I KNOW I don't understand and that she needs people in her life that do. And the conversations I have with my other children have been healing when I have told them I did not get what they were dealing with. It is with a sense of relief they now say as young adults, "Boy Mom, you don't know the half of it!"

Something tells me, Mr Obama has conversations or at least thoughts about his mother-in-law that are similar! As a woman of color I am sure Mrs Robinson gets a lot more than his mother did as to what he was up against. Love is an amazing thing and it is a great deal of what a person needs, but deep understanding combined with love, is SO important here! Mrs. Robinson grew up listening to many of the same people I heard, I bet. From what I have seen of my children it was a painful process to not have their mother (me) understand and then as children to not even have the words for what they were living that I could give to them, which I suspect Mrs Robinson has done for Mr Obama. Though my kids did have their dad who loves them too and kind of understood (however he and his family are 2nd generation and his mother grew up denying her culture and thinks this denial is best to this day and so does he, but still his family understands things WAY better than I do).

LOL! I remember when I got my 1rst computer when my kids were little. They were going into chat rooms that were specifically Latino. I wondered why since they were raised so ...white and they knew no Spanish except perhaps "Valize (sp?) Navidad and Si and No. Now I know why. I suspect similar reasons are why Mr Obama chose a black family to marry into (and my children also choose Latino partners) too. While they know they are loved, the One Drop Rule still exists in our culture and they had to learn now to navigate with few skills given to them by well meaning relatives who had no clue. I think it is important for those of us who do not "get it" to acknowledge this lack of understanding and the racism that goes along with it that we do not experience and then make sure the ones we love have access to people who do.

I am glad President Obama has such beautiful women in his life!

Cat In Seattle
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 05:48 PM
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43. All the complexities you describe were/are experienced by Obama, you are correct.
And has made him the political genius and extraordinary leader
that he is....
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 01:49 PM
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3. Thank you, PC. The concept of "boomerang" karma is one I
am thankful for, who wants to wait? Acting upon higher principle is something all should aspire to attain, however, the sad truth is that the opposite is true. I am glad the fruits of our "labor: are being responded to in a more immediate fashion. The concept of karma is not widely accepted.

Thank you for your response and thank you for taking the time to address everything that you do here.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:07 PM
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4. Changes
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 04:12 PM by Psychic Consortium
It feels like this: as the energy shifts so do the major political players.
The GOP begins to look and sound odd, off key and almost unnatural looking
and sounding. They begin to not match the new energy.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:09 PM
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5. Karma
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 04:14 PM by Psychic Consortium
We are energy beings who live forever. This energy being is called a soul.
This soul’s mission is to evolve to higher levels of goodness and wisdom.
Towards that end, the soul goes to various learning environments and opportunities to be of service.

Once such place is Earth. This planet is known as one of the most difficult
placements in this part of the universe. However it is a highly sought after placement because it produces some of the toughest, most resilient souls anywhere. The learning on this planet is said to propel the soul much faster towards its goals.

The soul incarnates on this planet for as long as necessary. In between lives the soul choses the life it will experience in the next incarnation. It choses the family, the mate, the circumstances. Earth is a free will planet so it would be more accurate to say that several options are chosen ahead of time, but nothing is a hard and fast rule. Major things may be predetermined, other things not.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 05:43 PM
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42. Thank you for the "esoteric" information.
I'm always interested in "the big picture"!

It also helps put my experiences into some perspective.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:10 PM
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6. More on karma
Karma is a major law of the universe.
Karma is about balance, growth, progress....
we choose our karma by past actions, thoughts, feelings, etc.
Or we take on karma for the sake of others, or the collective.
Or perhaps we wish to learn some important lessons.

Karma is very complex......
many kinds of karma...
individual, family, tribe, group, society, nation, planet, etc.

Karma is not just about the past and present.
We are creating our future karma right now.

Karma is not destined, not fixed, but static and subject to free will.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:10 AM
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7. Interesting insights. Thanks for your replies. Hope to hear more
in regard to how PC's gifts were realized and do they continue to develop?

Your presence here, as always, is thoughtful and uplifting.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:37 AM
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8. Yes will post something along those lines soon....... nt
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:03 PM
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9. The PC team
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 01:07 PM by Psychic Consortium
The PC team is a small one; the members consist of normal everyday type folks. They are not professional psychics and have only started using their skills. Their clairvoyant work is done in their spare time. They do not see their abilities as anything out of the ordinary or remarkable. They believe that all of you can do what they do.

While they have a sense of not fitting in with the rest of the world in some ways, they do not see their skills as anything special. They tend to have a matter of fact attitude toward their psychic ability.

They have been intuitive since birth, but lived in families that did not support such ability and instead valued left brain activities. As a result the team members all were educated in left brain fields and work in those areas currently: Science, accounting, law, health care, management, etc

As they hit midlife they began to explore the right brain intuition. The left and right brain approach is extremely good in terms of clairvoyance. The information comes in via the right brain; the left brain interprets and sorts it out…..

As said previously the PC team members tend to be cynical regarding world affairs and the material being received did not jive with their human world view. But they felt certain of the information received and wanted to share it.

In terms of improving their skills, they try to do that when time and energy permit. But like all of you, this is not always easy to fit in. They tend to get something called third eye fatigue and help each other clear out the chakras when necessary. If members are tired or ill the flow of information might be impaired.

Currently we tend to do things quite quickly as we are all very busy. But if information is blocked we must slow down a bit and relax a bit more. Rest, lowered stress, sleep, and nutrition all help.

Nothing too fancy or remarkable in terms of skill development or practice!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:09 PM
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11. How did you find one another?
Were there professional relationships? Or?
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:26 PM
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12. None of the team members are in the same career areas.
They met by happenstance.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:08 PM
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10. PS
It is only fair to give credit to the non human members of the team: assorted guides, angels, discarnate beings, Ascended Masters.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:29 PM
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14. Answering another previous question about the PC team:
"do they share common spiritual/religious beliefs"......

The team members are of different religious faiths.
However they share a common spiritual view, not based on
faith, but based on the reality they know to be true from
their contact with the other side.

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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:53 PM
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13. As more awaken in consciousness they tend to think along the same lines
and the group-thought gains power. It is called "Raising a cone of power" when we work as a group toward one thing.
At this time there are many awakening and calling for Justice. This is why there is a lot of changes and turmoil going on.
We can ask Spirit for justice and it comes very quickly. However we must be sure we are in the right because if we are not, then we are the ones that get the "justice."
Never do this unless it is badly needed for self protection and or to protect others.
I have only did the ritual for justice three times in my life and all three times what happened to the ones in the wrong was far worse than what I would have ever even thought of doing.
Not only that but every single time I have asked for justice, Spirit allowed me to observe first hand the results. It is like a speeding up of the karma of the one doing the wrong.
I NEVER would undertake this lightly as it can be devastating and I don't like seeing these things.
However, it is not my doing when it is given to Spirit to handle as Spirit decides and I accrued no karma from this.
If you wish to help the world, take the time everyday to meditate along the lines of love and healing for the world.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:32 PM
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15. Clairvoyant work
Clairvoyant work presents some challenges in a number of ways. The information comes in usually in highly symbolic or coded ways and must be seen accurately and completely. Then the material must be interpreted correctly and then translated into human language.

The PC team tends to be clairvoyant (pictures); clairsentient (psychic knowing); and clairaudient (psychic hearing.)

The material comes in great quantities many times quite readily but must be translated and sorted out, and put into English human terms. This is the time consuming part. At times PC’s comments are not grammatically correct or lack proper syntax, but that is because symbolic material is being translated into English and the phrasing is awkward. PC tries to be practical, down to earth and mainstream with most of its work.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:47 PM
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16. Health care
looking like it will be implemented in stages as indicated in previous PC posts. Brick by brick.

Overall many of Obama's changes will be gradual implementation as indicated.


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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:49 PM
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17. Esoteric
Spirit entities and humanoids surround us. Layers upon layers. Humans are like ants on an ant hill, oblivious to all the activity around us.

Some PC members believe that visitors are slowly, very slowly, starting to reveal themselves. It is so gradual that those who are not looking for it may not even realize it. These beings are here in a kind and friendly capacity.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:13 PM
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18. And on the flip side...
Hi Mother Earth,

I got to thinking as I was reading this thread that the flip side of boomerang karma is instant manifestation, which I've noticed has also been increasing lately. I remember having read a couple of years ago that instant manifestation was coming, but I had NO IDEA how swift and how powerful it would be. I'm reeling from these instances of manifestation both large and small lately. Have you had these experiences?
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:24 PM
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20. Hi, MorningGlow, if you are asking me, I'm always amazed at
how things come full circle in one's life, and that somehow despite incredible odds we are able to find our way, sometimes against things that some might see as crippling odds. "Spirit" is an incredible force.

I'm never quite sure of how "manifestation" takes place, is it us? Is it karma? Is it self-fulfilling beliefs...careful what you wish for?...fate, multiple outcomes?

I sometimes doubt that we are going through some kind of transformation, but then I'm struck by overnight things that seem to point to it. Like what's happening in Iran, and who knew any of us would see the day health reform could become real...sure these things are in the works still, but the tide is starting to turn.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:28 PM
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32. I think we manifest in agreement with the Universe/Spirit
But I also think that we have a built-in failsafe that whatever we try to manifest will only occur as long as it's in sync with what the rest of the souls and Spirit want (as well as in sync with our preplanned soul agreement)--I don't think we can force our individual will on a situation in defiance of a group agreement. But if we insist, then what we try to manifest comes out all wrong or we end up being unhappy. When we're in sync with the Universe and listen to our instinct as to what is wise and for the good of all, then what we desire comes easily and ends up being for the good of all.

I'm amazed at what's been happening in recent years as well. I heard so much about what was coming, yet it still didn't prepare me for our new reality. It's mind-boggling.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:39 PM
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22. Speaking of manifestation...
did you hire a contractor? All that was going on when I was sans monitor. Don't remember if I ever made it to the thread...
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:22 PM
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31. LOL yes I did, and I found out why I was having such a hard time choosing...
I ended up hiring them both!
:rofl:

I chose one (OS) to do the original job I got bids for (the exterior siding, building steps, and pulling down an ugly old cinderblock chimney) because they're big into exterior painting, so they can do it all at the same time--they're going to paint the siding so the house doesn't look so much like a complete cesspool. It's a stopgap measure, but it's better than nothing, and it'll buy us time to figure out what we REALLY want to do with the exterior. Eventually. When we win the lottery. It was easier to break the news to the other contractor (MM) because of the "package deal" OS offered--it wasn't a failing of MM, in other words. So when I told him I was having somebody else do the exterior work, I asked him to come by and give me a bid on some inside work. I told him that he's not bidding against anybody--he gives me the numbers, and I ask him when he can start. What's driving me crazy right now is everybody's so busy, nobody can start till next week or so. Want to get going! Now!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 10:41 AM
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39. funny coincidence, MG
Although I chose my realtor more quickly than you did your contractors, I've experienced so many delays with them that things won't really get going before next week or so, lol!

We're on a tandem course in that, it seems :rofl:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:42 PM
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44. More than you think!
Talk about DELAYYYYYS--I started this contractor thing in the middle of May. So far the total number of contractors who have started work on our house and yard have been...let's see here...um...carry the two...exactly...um...

ZERO.

:rofl:

Gaaaahhhhh...I want this work DONE, dammit! :banghead: But I'm not even on anybody's schedule yet! Sigh. I'm calling the exterior folks tomorrow to see what's going on. I realize they're dependent on rainy days and all, but... :banghead:
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 09:05 PM
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34. I have
Seems especially noticeable when it's small stuff; less resistance I guess.

Also, seems more obvious (and fun ;) ) when I'm doing well with easing my resistance- like, for example, I have been doing EFT again lately on my deeply entrenched negative thought patterns. I feel so much better and lighter... it's pretty cool!
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 10:47 AM
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40. I have seen instant manifestation off and on in my life
and have had instant "karma kickback" for as long as I can remember :spank:.

I started having a round of instant manifestation back a few weeks ago, but then seem to hit a wall. I try to meditate to get a take on why, what it is I need to do, what it is I'm supposed to do...and draw a blank.

I'm hoping it's just that I'm getting ahead of myself...that things are on the right schedule. And that maybe I just need more information revealed about one circumstance or another...
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:15 PM
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19. Interesting...indigenous peoples tended to value the symbolic
more than we do today. It's not surprising that many are not in touch with their own ability to use these inate skills, we probably ignore the subtler things more because of techonology, etc.,
Thank you, PC.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:33 PM
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21. Symbolic language is the language of the soul ?
That is a strong possibility.
The spirit world communicates in symbolic form.
Spoken language is for humans only?

Symbolic material is also much more efficient.
Very rich loaded material can be shown in a brief picture,
or series of pictures.

And yes it is all subtle. The biggest mistake in beginning
clairvoyance is to think the material will come in very dramatic
blatant and very obvious ways.

This is not usually the case. The material received is quite subtle
requiring attention, patience, and discernment. Most people simply ignore
any material they receive.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:45 PM
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23. Yes!..not so easy, and even
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 04:55 PM by mother earth
when you do realize it, sometimes it is written off as imagination. I think most people do think of it as occurring in a dramatic way.

I remember someone writing a book, though the title escapes me, of listening to that voice inside yourself & if more people would do that, something like 90% of crimes could be avoided. There's an instance of knowing, knowing you should not step onto that elevator, or walk down that street, a foreboding that most ignore as foolishness.

I agree, PC, we all have that tucked away inside of us. I do believe that's a huge part of what lies ahead for all, a realization or remembrance of what we once were & can be again coupled with a more intuned collective spirit. It's not about "me" any more, it's about "us", the veils are being lifted & we shall not be deceived any more, transparency will rule the day. It is exciting to watch how it plays out.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:56 PM
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24. Yes
One of the challenges in clairvoyant work is to be able to tell the difference between one's own imagination/wishful thinking and bona fide psychic material. That comes with practice and understanding the process.

For example one PC team member gets psychic material more on the right side
of the head, imagination and stories are on the left....
Or psychic material has a very different feel to it than imagination.

To be honest, PC team members don't pay as much attention to the process as they probably should. They are focused on getting the material and then sorting it out. And then comparing notes with other team members. As indicated, the process is treated matter of factly.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:08 PM
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26. I'm glad that they are able to do this as a group. I think it's
important for this work to be done, without ridicule, and in the spirit of service to the greater good. Whatever it is that drew you all together, that's the real gem IMHO, how do people from all different walks of life find their way to this collective effort? :thumbsup:
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:12 PM
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28. Yes
This forum has been a very nice place for PC to work.
They are most thankful.

The Internet is a great place to meet kindred spirits. :)
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:15 PM
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29. Kindred spirits....
:toast: make for good discussions & warm fires.:grouphug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:58 PM
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25. The Gift of Fear?
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 05:00 PM by Why Syzygy
Very good book. IIRC, his mother was a heroine addict. He witnessed her shoot her male companion.
(Don't quote me. It was that or something similar.)

http://www.amazon.com/Gift-Fear-Gavin-Becker/dp/0440508835/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245707758&sr=1-1

Amazon.com Review
Each hour, 75 women are raped in the United States, and every few seconds, a woman is beaten. Each day, 400 Americans suffer shooting injuries, and another 1,100 face criminals armed with guns. Author Gavin de Becker says victims of violent behavior usually feel a sense of fear before any threat or violence takes place. They may distrust the fear, or it may impel them to some action that saves their lives. A leading expert on predicting violent behavior, de Becker believes we can all learn to recognize these signals of the "universal code of violence," and use them as tools to help us survive. The book teaches how to identify the warning signals of a potential attacker and recommends strategies for dealing with the problem before it becomes life threatening. The case studies are gripping and suspenseful, and include tactics for dealing with similar situations.

People don't just "snap" and become violent, says de Becker, whose clients include federal government agencies, celebrities, police departments, and shelters for battered women. "There is a process as observable, and often as predictable, as water coming to a boil." Learning to predict violence is the cornerstone to preventing it. De Becker is a master of the psychology of violence, and his advice may save your life. --Joan Price --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

From Library Journal
De Becker, the CEO of a firm that attempts to predict and prevent violence against individuals, shares his informed insights on enhancing personal safety. He believes that violence is part of the human condition and that America is increasingly a violent place. For example, homicide is now the leading cause of death for women in the workplace. De Becker posits that intuition is our most basic and reliable survival skill. When it produces fear?as distinct from worry or anxiety?we should pay attention. Mixing theory with case histories, he discusses stranger-to-stranger crime, obsessive admirers, employee rampages, and spousal crime, as well as the more esoteric categories of celebrity stalkers and assassins. Having suffered an abusive childhood himself, de Becker has a special empathy for victims and an acute awareness of the signs of criminal intent. A valuable contribution on a timely topic, this is recommended for public libraries.

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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:09 PM
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27. I do believe that's it, WS.
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 05:13 PM by mother earth
:toast: What would I do without you?

The sense of fear, a primal thing that we have cast aside? The other edge of "knowing"?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 05:19 PM
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30. What would I do without you?
Don't try it! :rofl:

I bought this book for my mother shortly after my dad's passing (1998). She had immediately installed bars on her house windows. She's always been a scaredy cat. She informed me she doesn't read books, so I kept it, and was happy to have read it.

:hug:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:36 PM
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33. Conscious-self/talking self must learn the language of Sub-conscious/child self..
in order to communicate with Higher/older-self.
or as another once said in effect....."No man/woman cometh unto the Father/Mother except through me."
The sub-conscious self is like a very bright child. It responds best to symbols, patterns, movement/dance, colors and songs/rhymes.
All these things focus the Intent.
This is why all religious organizations practice some form of rituals.
This is why all spells were songs or rhymes.
This is why just gathering the things to do something can cause it to happen..the gathering and focusing the thoughts on the thing to be accomplished helps to focus the Intent.
All these things are tools to focus the Intent just as your ritual tools also help you focus your Intent.
The Science of real "magic/miracles" is an Art in itself and is the science of how to use your brain and your spiritual gifts and powers. That is why it is called "The Art of Arts".
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:36 AM
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45. PC update
As indicated previously, PC has been posting on the main DU forums. This has gone well, very little in the way of problem responses.

PC sees its job as guide, mentor, teacher as we enter the 21st century. Helping to light the path, show the way as we evolve into better society. PC moves energy, helps with the shift.

PC is also posting more to individual threads on the ASAH forum.

As requested, PC is adding most of these posts to the PC DU Journal, posts can be followed easily this way.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:43 AM
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46. Health Care Reform
Health Care reform will happen.
This is a certainty.

PC members know this to be true.

However, PC members keep getting that it is going to happen in stages. And take some time to put in place in its entirety.

So do not be discouraged as things happen that seem less than what you want.... it will happen, but take some time. The corrupt politicians and corporations wage a horrific battle behind the scenes.

Brick by brick Obama builds what is good and right.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 09:03 PM
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47. Obama's changes appear to come in stages...
step by step, incremental fashion as previously indicated by PC.

In the meantime he throws red meat to the corrupt and greedy to distract them. By the time they realize what is happening it will be too late. Their power has been eroded.
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