Is there a counter-coup brewing?

[Dover]

We know that Pluto will be stirring things up in a big way as it moves through Capricorn. And there is much on the line in terms of how we/humanity go about restructuring ourselves nationally and globally to set the stage for the future. Of course some multinationals and global elite would like to dictate what that structure will be and make the rules. Many of those elite represent 'old money' from dying industry like oil and financial bodies like the Fed. Reserve who have been choking the life out of our future in their attempts to hang onto power and extend their tentacles to grasp at new resources.

We've watched as Russia, Venezuela and other countries have countered their attempts by seizing control and nationalizing resources and setting up new financial institutions.

Well what if a large contingent in THIS country decided to follow suit? What if parts of our military and government bodies staged a counter coup to seize the oil and utilities and put them back into public hands? And what if they supported rather than fought back existing and emerging global institutions like the World Court, the UN, etc. and treaties such as Kyoto as well as fair rather than 'free' trade, etc.? It's also been hinted at by Carter and others that there could be consequences to Bush & company's crimes...but not at home. In the world court. Perhaps all of this will be in play beginning late this Fall and into next year.

Uranus and Saturn in opposition also suggests that something will change. And it will be swift and unexpected.


Check out this article:

House Dems Call For Nationalizing Refineries:

http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#a54ef44,2008-06-18

[I Have A Dream]

1. Of course, I don't know what's going to happen but Pluto in Capricorn...

isn't going to keep things status quo, in my opinion.

It's interesting that Karen Bishop has been saying for the last year that things were going to be changing so that local communities will be much more important. I'm starting to see this as the price of transporting food, etc. has gone up so quickly. The Mayan calendar also said that this year in particular is supposed to be a time of great change, and, again, I'm seeing it. Let's hope that the change benefits humanity as a whole instead of the Powers That Be.

We certainly are living in interesting times, Dover. Thanks for the article (even though I hated clicking on Fox News' website ;)).

[Cleita]

2. I'm wondering if Nancy Pelosi

just lost her seat in Congress to Cindy Sheehan in November. I know she doesn't consider Cindy a threat but I think if she pissed off enough San Francisco liberals in her district she might lose her seat. I wonder if this portends this. Of course you would have to look at the charts of both of the women to see what gives.

[I Have A Dream]

3. I have to say that I'm pretty pissed myself right now. I feel that we're...

totally without representation right now, except for Dennis Kucinich, John Conyers, Russ Feingold and a few others.

If I lived in her district, I wouldn't vote for her this time. x(

[rumpel]

7. I completely agree

I was just watching Olberman with Turley, and while this was brewing in me for a while, I thought, if the Dems don't fess up - I am going to make sure they know, they can not count on my vote.

The ugly truth is being revealed of all those half and untruths, whoever they may be.

There will be painful restructuring everywhere - but ultimately it will be for the good of All.

[rumpel]

6. Unfortunately, Cleita

We just had primaries and Nancy won in a landslide...

[Cleita]

8. Yes but that was against Shirley Golub and before

Nancy showed her indisputable, this time, true colors. Only the most color blind or corporate supporter can excuse her now. Of course this isn't about that but how their charts compare. It would be interesting to compare them but I know nothing about astrology so I have to leave it to those who do know.

[crikkett]

10. SF liberals are in full-on marriage bliss

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

Pelosi's safe.

[Fire Walk With Me]

4. There are plots and sub-plots, covert and overt desire for change and control...

...people hoping for violence and people hoping for peace. People hoping to spring traps upon those who are hoping for peace. Positive and negative energy doing the eternal grind against each other for supremacy.

I am utterly sick of the polarities. Yet addicted to them.

Please put all of your time and attention upon generating positive energy. Negativity is again increasing and must be countered.

[crikkett]

11. I'm with you on polarities. Too bad it's a binary system - I'd be groovin w/ a dimmer light

instead of this 'eternal grind' stuff

...so much work.

[Callie McAllie]

23. we need synergy instead of polarity!

Can't we all just get along?

[katty]

18. yes, a need to diffuse polarization as best possible-be

actively 'observant, centered and positive' (and I don't mean naive)

[cliss]

5. Dover, it seems that you are

correct.

I read another thread about Obama here, and I got inspired to see what the other astrologers are saying about the upcoming election. It seems that they are almost unanimous in the following:

this fall promises to be wild; all kinds of things happening (I can't quote exactly Cuz I read so many) political circus, Obama seems to be in dire danger.
Sudden, dangerous developments.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. The environment is electric and we may see many folks

loose seats, yes even Madame Speaker (I hope)

We. as a nation, are at a crossroads. I have no clue 'bout astrology, but I have more than just a clue about history

And we are clearly at a crossroads. That article from FOX, makes me think... either this is not real... or if it is... the behind the scenes power struggle is getting worst

[Bluestar]

12. I agree that the changes are coming

The Illuminati are experiencing problems now--the old tricks don't work. Many will start showing their weakness through physical problems. It starts in the energy field first before it becomes obvious at the physical level. So you can rest assured that those with physical problems have made their decision to stay in darkness very firmly and have lost their grip on power. Don't assume that all the Illuminati are Republicans--some Democrats will fall also. As lightworkers, it is our job to keep an open mind as to who will turn to the light and who will not. Everyone is being given the opportunity to turn to the light.

A few weeks ago, the people of this planet made the decision to make the transition to light easy rather than hard. For that reason, you will see subtle changes rather than a sudden jolt. This is excellent news because if all the institutions that the Illuminati control were to fall at once (banks, governments, industries, religious institutions, etc.) the planet would be in upheaval. Eventually all of these institutions will be controlled by the people. Those who have been in darkness will be given multiple opportunities to turn to the light over the next few years. Deception has been shifted to truth, false support shifted to true support, false power shifted to true power. As lightworkers, we are shifting the entire "sham infrastructure" to truth on a daily basis.

The election will see some surprises and may not have the outcome that seems obvious--but whatever happens with the election (and beyond) will be of the people.

This information is from my spirit guide in the past few weeks. My spirit guide is Krishna. I hesitate to post this information on this board because in the past I have been the subject of derision for sharing this type of information. But I do so now because I'm being told that it's important for all lightworkers to be aware of what's happening and to continue to beam light to the planet and all of its inhabitants.

Bluestar

[Callie McAllie]

13. Thank you for posting this

Subtle changes would be better. I'm not too excited about the notion of total upheaval, everything changing all at once. Although I do want things to change.

[NJCher]

14. thanks Bluestar

Fascinating.



Cher

[FirstLight]

15. Thank you for sharing...

I agree that this is part of the shift I have been experiencing as well...staying focused on love and adding love to the fear is really important too.. lots of big work for the lightholders here on this little planet. This earthwalk is definately not dull!

[I Have A Dream]

16. Thank you, Bluestar. This is important for us to know.

I'm sorry that you were ridiculed in the past.

:hug:

[catzies]

21. Bluestar, I'm only reading your comment today for the first time, and in light of

events over the past few weeks it really makes sense. thank you for being here, and for being you.

[katty]

17. Pluto is barely into Cap & look what's happening...we have

a long road ahead with Pluto in Capricorn, these are massive outer planet transformational changes-this is just the prelude to the real ride.

[skooooo]

19. Just reading this thread...

...and wanted to say how interesting it is. I don't know a lot about astrology, but it's fun to hang out with people who do.

[I Have A Dream]

20. Welcome to the group, skooooo. It's always great to see a new face...

around here.

:hi:

[Dover]

22. Americans may be losing faith in free markets (LATimes)

..."If the pendulum swung away from government toward much greater confidence in markets during the last generation, the pendulum is clearly swinging back again now," said Daniel Yergin, whose 1998 book with coauthor Joseph Stanislaw, "The Commanding Heights," chronicled the worldwide spread of the free-market credo.

"Everything is weighing in at the same time, and that affects how people view markets and government," Yergin said.

"Nobody in this country really believes in unfettered free markets, and nobody really believes in socialism," said UC Davis historian Eric Rauchway, but economic crises of the past have produced constituencies favoring the reining in of markets and regulation of the economy -- constituencies that ultimately grew large enough to produce change..cont'd

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-losingfaith16-2008jul16,0,5725955,full.story