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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:51 PM
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Astrologers: Poster Boy for Corruption, at Starlight News
http://starlightnews.com

For those who have taken to watching TV lately as a way of escaping the dismal reality in the Kingdom of Bush, the preponderance of the various Law and Order shows is quite striking. Just in the past week, I counted 43 episodes on three different stations. These fascinating and tangled crime dramas, as well as a myriad of others in which good triumphs over evil in a neat 60 minute package, offer a vicarious thrill to a justice-starved audience. By plucking an unerring resolution out of the jaws of chaos and corruption, they throw a few crumbs to our unsatisfied craving to see the criminal perpetrators of the past four years reap their deserved harvest. Indeed, in the reality based world, the criminal negligence that left us defenseless on 9/11 has been ignored, the country was aggressively pushed into a costly war on false pretenses, those who are poisoning the environment are increasingly unregulated and getting richer, there is ample evidence of fraudulent election results in three successive elections, and the US Treasury has been robbed to benefit the corporate elite and the wealthiest of the wealthy. But, to hear the punditocrisy and the administration spokespeople, the sun is shining brightly in the Land of Oz and all is well. And so, we who sense the gaping chasm between honor and integrity on the one hand and the grotesque corruption in high places on the other, wander around with this gnawing, righteous hunger and nothing to fill the ache but a few TV shows on the Yellow Brick Road.

The latest revelations in the ongoing saga of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Capital City swirl around the person of House Majority Leader Tom Delay. Every day seems to bring a new revelation of sordid schemes that trespass moral decency: expensive junkets paid by lobbyists; fraudulent campaign finance shenanigans in Texas; threatening judges who disagree with the Rabid Right; and other manifestations of power gone wild and totally unaccountable. But with Republicans in control of both Congress and the White House, and with most Republicans in the House beholden to Tom Delay for all kinds of smelly favors, will the rest of us need to just suck up another one and watch Delay blithely dance his way through all the controversy until some big event or soap opera-like scandal steals the stage once again?

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:57 PM
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1. Nancy
the first few paragraphs are your most powerful and cogent and scathing to date. That is, of the ones I have perused. I did read the article and think it's great.

"power gone wild and totally unaccountable."

And to think we nearly took down a President 6 years ago for an indiscretion over which the girl was hardly complaining versus well over 120,000 deaths of innocents and well over 1500 military casualties based on totally bogus so called intelligence (aka sheer stupidity) is utterly mind blowing.

Therein lies the problem.

Yet on January 6th, when the parade of those taking a stance against voting irregularities in front of those that were in complete denial, my world shifted. Having worked on issues regarding the insecurity of EVM's for well over 20 months, I took several steps backwards and saw, that these bozo's will ultimately meet the same ends as every Imperial power throughout recorded history. It's just sorrowful to consider how many they will take down with them.

I have yet to look at all the charts, but am hoping to god that at least DeLay has his fall from grace long before '08.

Will chime in later on that.

Thanks, your insights are always welcomed and truly well appreciated.

You do fantastic work. So thanks.

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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 08:27 PM
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2. Thanks, stella.
I was really struck by the numerous Pluto Mars aspects and Uranus Mars aspects for Delay. That really says it all!! Manipulation, aggression, ruthlessness, coercion, etc!
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:50 PM
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3. A wonderful new blog with some hope in it
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:51 PM
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4. Well I Was A Little Depressed
when I realized Delay would be around until '08. But then I got a grip. Most of '05 will be hell for him, and then only to more years he'll be gone for good, so the torture must be ongoing. Maybe by '08 they'll all be gone. Better to face the reality of the time frame than not. I choose to view it as a movie with a sequel. The first part up until Dec. '05. Then part 2, the 2 year long chainsaw massacre.

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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 05:15 AM
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5. If DeLay is around that long....
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 05:16 AM by Dulcinea
....this could very well affect the midterm elections!

Has anyone charted Frist?
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:31 PM
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7. A few words on Frist
He may have a very hard time this week through Monday, 4/25. Tr.Saturn is on his natal Neptune. Natally they are conjunct. He will get slammed for being out in la la land (Neptune). Nothing else stands out right now to me.

I do not think he will get the GOP nomination in 2008. Saturn will be opposite his Sun Mercury conjunction for much of the primary season.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:50 AM
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6. This sure sounds like the duality of the Pisces archetype
Two fishes:

"It is important to note that the victim role seldom stands alone, usually alternating with both the persecutor and rescuer roles..."

In the Latter Days of the Age of Pisces -- martyrs and persecutors.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:56 PM
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8. Wow! Great article, Nancy!
It sure seems like Delay is becoming the poster boy for republiCON politics. As much as he is being shielded by the white house and the congress, he just keeps digging his hole deeper.

I say, let him stay where he is for a few more years! Eventually he'll drag the whole lot of them down with him.

It seems that a couple of years ago, on a thread in the old Meeting Room, we discussed the future of the Dem & repuke parties, and it appeared that, by 2008, the repuke party would have their comuppance...that their party would all but be destroyed. All of the astrologers who were looking at the charts of each party came to the conclusion that 2008 was the year they would be totally exposed. Delay's criminality certainly fits into that timeline.

Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark the thread. Does anyone remember that discussion? I just hope we can someday land the chimp in charge in jail along with Delay!

:applause: That was a good article! :applause:

:kick:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:11 PM
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9. "Digging His Hole Deeper"
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 06:11 PM by Me.
What are the chances he'll be gone sooner than predicted given he can't keep his mouth shut? Any smart person, would back off and fly under the radar for a while but not the bugman. He, has to keep shooting his mouth off. The latest is a veiled threat of impeachment against some of the supremes, with Kennedy being pointed out as an particular offender. While his base loves this, he is making lots of moderate repugs even more nervous daily.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:57 PM
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10. Hey, Me!
:hi:

When I see him on TV, I get the feeling he might consider suicide his only way out, in the end. Kinda creepy.

Let's start digging on R. Reed. These guys are all bunch of brazen crooks!:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:47 PM
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11. I see Delay being powerful in the January 2007 110th Congress,
At least for the first year of it. His planets are very powerful and he will be exceedingly ruthless and aggressive. Could part of it be a court case? We can hope, but I am in no way sure of that one.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:30 PM
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12. We'll Have To See
Well what may be happening with me is that I am trying to work your wonderful words in order to accommodate wish fulfillment on my part. Though for the life of me I can't imagine why he is being so aggressive, it may that he is using the old "best defense is a good offense" tactic. Between the NRA speech and his calling out of Justice Kennedy today, I keep hoping for his wings of wax to melt.

Evening, Quakerfriend.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:55 AM
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13. Delay will respond aggressively
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:15 PM
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14. Here is the exact transit of Saturn on Frist's Neptune
bringing him down to earth with a loud and painful bump!! The business community will not support his religious crusade to end the filibuster. LOLOL!!!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-judges24apr24,0,5582429.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:32 PM
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15. Notice that business, which is in the driver's seat of our government
have no qualms about what Frist and others are doing so long as it doesn't get in the way of their agenda and profits. That is why expecting any top-down leadership for real change is a waste of time.

These businesses are the war criminals, and thieves and have no party or other loyalties.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:05 AM
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16. Delay's "knife fight"
GOP 30 pick up a knife


Reps. Tom Feeney (R-Fla.) and John Sweeney (R-N.Y.) have been meeting with 30 House Republicans over the past few weeks to coordinate a more aggressive strategy to defend Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), according to a Republican source familiar with the meetings. Starting last night, Republican lawmakers had planned to speak on the House floor during special orders to defend their embattled majority leader. The lawmakers will say that Democrats are just as guilty as Republicans are of oversights in their record keeping and of taking trips paid for by private groups.

“The Republican Conference has not yet awakened to the fact that this is a full-frontal attack against Republicans, leadership and against Mr. DeLay,” said Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), one of the most committed lawmakers. “What we have is a lopsided effort by the Democrats to burn down the House.”

Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), also involved in the group, said, “We’re frustrated by Democratic hypocrisy,” adding that the group would fight back in floor speeches, press releases and letters to Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to highlight Democrat’s travel violations. “We can’t simply play defense,” he continued. Another GOP lawmaker said, “We’re a group of people who think we’ve been involved in a knife fight and it’s time we pick up the knife.”

Asked for names of Democrats who were vulnerable to ethics charges, Republicans cited members of the Democratic leadership and Congressional Black Caucus. But Sessions said the mission was not to level ethics charges against Democrats. Jennifer Crider, Pelosi’s spokeswoman, said, “House Republicans are clearly trying to change the subject from their own problems, but Leader Pelosi and House Democrats will not be distracted.”

cont'd
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/042805/gop.html
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:12 AM
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17. Lampson files papers to challenge DeLay
Lampson files papers to challenge DeLay

The Associated Press 04/27/2005

HOUSTON (AP) - Former Democratic Congressman Nick Lampson made his challenge of U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay official, filing documents with the Federal Election Commission.

The filing Tuesday allows Lampson, a Beaumont Democrat, to start raising money for his campaign. Lampson lost his 2004 re-election bid after GOP-led congressional redistricting absorbed some of his district into DeLay's newly formed one.

Lampson announced Friday he would seek the Democratic nomination and said he plans to move into the district to make the bid....>

http://www.southeasttexaslive.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14424751&BRD=2287&PAG=461&dept_id=512588&rfi=6
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:30 PM
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18. I am more and more convinced every day that Delay has PICTURES
of all of his little republican buddies in bed with goats or Guckert/Gannon, or they would be dumping him like a hot potato!

Every now & then, you hear about how republicans are ready to dump him, then he goes off on Air Force One with the chimp, or he goes off to stump speech with a buddy, and suddenly, they're trying to get all their republican friends to stand up for him again. Delay has the goods on every one of those a**holes, and he's threatened to use that info on them, I feel sure, if they don't rally to his cause. Since they're in the majority and have the White House and courts with them, not to mention control of the voting machines, they can get away with holding him up, and he knows it.

His ethics violations are HUGE!! From what he did w/ his PACs in Texas, to all of his dealings w/ his lobbiest buddy, he's trailing a stream of crimes behind him that looks like a comet tail.

:kick::kick::kick:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:00 AM
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23. I think so too
I think he has SOMETHING on people to make him still stay around so I think he'll be around for a while. I know they offered to change the rule's and do investigation's but the democrats said no and to let Texas do it which was a very smart move because knowing these people they would've not done one at all or faked one. I've always felt with these people if one of them goes down they all do.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:46 PM
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19. New Chris Floyd article.......the Robber Barons
Corruption is their middle name and Delay is only one of thier more transparent mobsters:

Global Eye

Buried Treasure

By Chris Floyd
Published: April 29, 2005

It seemed, at first, like nothing more than a novelty item in the news briefs, the kind of odd, meaningless side-fact thrown off by most major stories: "New Pope, President's Brother Had Link in Swiss Group." But a look beneath the surface of this innocuous connection reveals a vast web of sinister alliances -- and moral corruption on a world-shaking scale.

The network links a bewildering line-up of players -- the Bushes, the Vatican, bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and China's Communist overlords, among others -- in a staggering array of crime and turpitude: prostitution, pedophilia, mass death and war profiteering. Yet this is not some grand "conspiracy theory," a serpent's egg hatched in Bilderberg or Bohemian Grove. It's simply the way the Bush boys do business, trawling the globe for sweetheart deals and gushers of blood money from the war and terror they foment.


At the center of this particular nexus is the unlikely figure of Neil Bush, the feckless, fraudulent brother of the current president. Neilsy, as he's known in the family, is most famous for costing American taxpayers $1 billion to bail out a savings-and-loan he had ruined with secret insider loans to his own business partners. For this massive fraud, he was fined -- by his father's administration -- the princely sum of $50,000, which was actually paid by one of his dad's political bagmen, of course.

You see, the Bushes are robber barons, not capitalists: They never risk any of their own money in the competition of the marketplace. Nor do they ever pay the price when their deals go belly-up. Just ask George W., whose first business was jump-started with secret cash from the bin Ladens, laundered through their U.S. frontman, James Bath -- who was also hired by W.'s dad, then-CIA director George Bush Sr., to set up offshore companies for shifting CIA money and aircraft between Texas and Saudi Arabia, the Texas Observer reported...cont'd

http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/04/29/120.html


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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:19 PM
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21. The Moscow Times has been exposing a lot of bush corruption
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 01:20 PM by loudsue
:applause: And I applaud them for it!

I just wish 250 million other Americans could read it!!

Thanks for the link to the article, Dover. :hi:

:kick:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:24 PM
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20. Nancy, I have a question that is very important
to me personally. We have been hearing for some time now about the * administration's plans to reinstate the draft this June. As was stated on C-Span2 this morning, this will not be accepted by the American people UNLESS there is a terrorist attack before then. This was during the 9/11 Lies and Omissions broadcast.
Since they're running out of time to get the American people to accept the draft, do you see any possibility of a terrorist attack any time soon? I know there's a Mars/Uranus conjunction in Pisces on May 15, but does that indicate anything, per the US chart?

I ask because 2 of my sons are still draft age, and my eldest son, 34, is receiving weekly phone calls to re-enlist. They're offering him a $15 grand enlistment bonus, which his wife says he will accept only over her and my dead bodies.

Thanks.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-05 12:00 PM
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27. NB - I only just saw your post on the draft
I have two sons, 14 and 16, so this issue fills me with overwhelming anxiety.

I think for there to be a terrorist attack we need to see either some kind of Uranus or Pluto aspect in the US chart that is quite strong, preferably to the US Ascendant, but not necessarily, followed by some Saturn action, i.e. subsequent grief, despair, mourning. This is what we had at 9/11 and thereafter.

I agree that Bush would probably unlikely to start a draft without a terrorist attack of some kind. I do take some solace from the fact that Bush has quite a bit of Saturn holding him back over much of this term so he will be less likely to act as recklessly and force his will on the world as he has been able to do in the past.

The May 14 to 15 Mars Uranus conjunction could well bring some upsets to the US. It is followed by Saturn on US Mercury and Pluto still close to but waning from the quincunx to US Mercury. So far, this Saturn to Mercury transit has been about scarce resources (oil) and contracting currency (dollar's decrease in value) as well as rising trade and account deficits. I tend to think that whatever happens under the Mars Uranus conjunction, it may have more of an economic impact. A big terrorist event that impacts an oil source would be an example, bringing up the price of oil. Or a statement by China about investments in dollars that causes a plunge in the market and the dollar value.

There is also the Jupiter station trine US Uranus from 5/12 to 6/7 to consider. During the Jupiter square to Uranus, the press ran with the Abu Ghraib story. I am hoping this trine will energize them in some way as well.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 11:52 PM
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22. That's an interesting page
I'm going to bookmark it. They have some news on John Bolton! Apparently if they vote on the day they're supposed to (around May 12th) he won't make it past the committe. I hope that's true!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:57 AM
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24. the Feeney folly
I agree with loudsue, who says keep him around because he'll drag the whole sorry mess down with him. Instead of 30 Republicans planning how to defend him, they'd be smart to plan ways to get along without him. The facts of the matter are, however, that he's their big-time money bagboy and they're not about to give up the cash they that is their sole hold on power. What else have they got? The support and undying love of the people? LOL.

They may also be keeping him around because they're afraid of what will happen without a "hammer" when impeachment becomes inevitable. What's happening in the UK now tantalizes me. Perhaps Nancy's observations re Jan. 2007 reflects Delay's maneuverings in an impeachment hearing.

I like your sequel viewpoint, me. I think I'll adopt it. Can't wait to get to the chainsaw part. We have to have the chainsaw massacre and the bloodier the better because the rest of the world will not tolerate this corruption, financial mishandling and resource grabbing forever. This is our way of showing the rest of the world that we, the American people, also find it intolerable and that we will not accept it.


Cher
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:56 AM
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25. Funnily Enough
Mrs. Bush referred to a chainsaw massacre in her comedy routine the other night, her reference was to her husband cutting down trees willy nilly. Basically I would say he's doing to their ranch what he's done to the country.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:59 AM
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26. DeLay's 'Salute': A Wave Goodbye?

DeLay's 'Salute': A Wave Goodbye?

By Mark Leibovich
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 2, 2005; Page C01

As if things weren't bad enough for Rep. Tom DeLay: Now his friends are planning a tribute in his honor. Not to be cynical about this, but (oh, what the heck) you know you're in trouble in Washington when this happens.

"The difference between a tribute and a eulogy is that during a tribute there is actually one person who believes every word," says Tom Daschle, who was the subject of his own tribute on March 1 -- four months after he was voted out of office. He is awaiting another tribute next month, this one hosted by civil rights groups.

If form holds, the salute to DeLay, which is scheduled for May 12 at the Capital Hilton, will feature a series of speeches testifying to his greatness and scores of hushed table conversations about whether the Texas Republican will survive as House majority leader and, more important, who might succeed him if he doesn't.

"Tom DeLay has been a stalwart champion of conservative principles in the Congress," reads an invitation to the salute, which is sponsored by the American Conservative Union Foundation. Tickets cost $250, $2,000 per table or $10,000 to be a member of the host committee. "This is a testimonial banquet, not a fundraising event," the invite says, adding that all proceeds will go toward defraying the costs of the dinner.

Cont'd >

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/01/AR2005050101085.html

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