The Amazing Super Dark Tuesday

[Hermes Daughter]

I'm not a professional astrologer but some things everyone knows to avoid because things that happen or are initiated then usually fall through. So I'd like to get the impression of others here about Super Tuesday and the following:

(1) Retrograde Mercury
(2) Dark of the Moon
(3) Void of Course Moon
(4) An eclipse

Super Tuesday takes place when mercury is retrograde on the darkest day of Dark Moon days and the moon is void of course (during the day) and... there's a eclipse on Wednesday. That's an applying eclipse -- within 24 hours!!! Moon totally combust sun!

How do you read this? I feel like the results won't hold. It just seems like whatever comes of it will fall through.

I'm strong for Edwards and his announcing under the retrograde seems like it, too, may not hold. I read one of Dover's posts where she asked the same thing. When it returns to this place, direct, could there be a change?

Also, has anyone noticed that Mercury crosses into Scorpio on election day? In 2000, on election day, the trickster went from Libra into Scorpio, stopped, then went back. It was all played out in the back and forth with who won and the reversal in Gore's win. And now, eight years later on election day, it whips across that same point and dashes into Scorpio where it stays. Does anyone think this is odd and how do you read it?

Thanks!

Vote for John Edwards in Your Primary, please. Send a Message to the Media!

[ccpup]

1. I read it as nothing being decided on Super Tuesday

despite it being the mega-delegate rich Primary Day of Primary Season. I don't anticipate anyone moving even slightly decisively ahead until the Primary of February 12th or even February 19th after Mercury is moving direct and Transiting Mars -- now direct -- starts impacting personal, Secondary Progressed and Solar Arc planets.

As for Edwards, I anticipate his decision to drop out will remain (in light of his current Saturn square Natal Jupiter/Moon) although he may pick up a nice number of delegates on Super Tuesday, but I do see him having a very active part in the new Administration.

[Delphinus]

2. Ooh, I hope you're right!

I'd love for McCain to fall out of front-runner status - in fact, let them keep everyone all the way up to whenever they come together for their convention.

To the original poster, though, I didn't realize we were having an eclipse. I'll have to check that out.

[ccpup]

3. I believe the eclipse will be exactly squaring Barack's Ascendant

and one degree past squaring Hillary's Venus. I always tend to believe the more exact the aspect with Eclipses, the more powerful. I don't know how an Eclipse square one's Ascendant might manifest, though. Any thoughts?

[Hermes Daughter]

6. Only a generalized guess...

I'm such a novice at this. Wouldn't it impact, probably negatively, the way others see him - or the way he promotes himself (sort of flip sides of the same coin)? Obama is a master of the grand speech but he tends to hem and haw just talking. So perhaps he'll falter and seem awkward in some public way. I don't know. It's also in the sign opposite his sun.

[Hermes Daughter]

7. That's what I thought...

Nothing decided. But couldn't Edwards' Mercury retrograde decision remain (Saturn) but be overridden by a draft (communication) at the convention (work) when the effect would reverse. Since the square is in mutable signs ruling communication and work, it can mutate. Also, the people (Moon) are their, lending their voice and communicating publicly.

I'm glad you see him picking up delegates. I've been hoping there'll be a media backlash to the inhumane negative communication he's been experiencing. The Saturn square would account for that!

Of course the Dark Super Tuesday will decide the Repubs' nominee. But then... hopefully that won't go anywhere :-)

[ccpup]

13. I'm sorry

But -- just with a cursory glance (kinda busy with Life tonight) -- at his Secondary Progressed and Solar Arc picture as well as his Transits around the Convention, I'm not seeing anything that would indicate a lift or a feeling of success. And nothing very shocking!

He does have Tr. Uranus trine his Pluto, but this Tr. Uranus is also making an inconjunct to his SP Saturn/Neptune conjunction which is long past an exact sextile with his Natal Pluto. Other than the quick squares that Tr. Venus/Mercury are going to make to his Sun the next day, I don't see much else. Tr. Jupiter is making an inconjunct to his SP Moon which doesn't look expansive, so ...

Don't fear, though, as with his SP Moon meeting his Natal Sun for a New Moon in April (I think) after meeting his SP Jupiter by conjunction in early January, I have strongly believe he'll have a strong position in the new Administration (early January would make sense for a President Elect to be gathering their Cabinet), so his message will not be lost.

[Helga Scow Stern]

23. I agree that Saturn will keep pounding Edwards, making an electoral bid

unlikely at the present time. His message is not going away, however, and I agree that it is important to keep supporting it. He has a good shot in 2012. He's in this for the long haul. And despite all the Saturn aspects, anything could happen. Saturn does propel people into power in the midst of adverse conditions. Saturn also represents the poor. I look for change to happen with his situation after Saturn goes direct in early May. I hope it doesn't have to do with Elizabeth's health.

[Cleita]

4. I've been getting emails from the Kucinich and Edwards

camps here in California to go ahead and vote for our candidate of choice on super Tuesday anyway to get the delegates needed for those candidates. There definitely is a movement afoot because those candidates are still on our ballot. Also, it's estimated here in California that 30% have already voted absentee before the candidates dropped out. I know that I voted for Edwards and mailed it in before Edwards dropped out so I wonder how many other have done the same as me. (I had to vote by mail because our precinct has been changed to all mail-in ballots.) If California votes like it would have should Edwards have stayed in the race, the results might be a deal breaker. We have a lot of delegates. So I think neither Hillary nor Barack should get too comfortable in their skins.

[Delphinus]

5. I vote in Indiana,

and I think they'll still be on the ballot. I voted for Wes Clark in 2004 and he had already dropped out. The primary - because it's so late and it makes no difference - is my chance to vote my conscience and I always do. I'll decide closer to that time whether my vote will go to Kucinich or Edwards.

[cliss]

18. I agree.

There is so much that can happen, between now and Super Tuesday.
Everything is in a state of flux right now. The economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

I have this a uncertain, fluid feeling about the upcoming election.
Nothing is cast in stone, anything can happen.
A

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As far as whoever gets elected, it really doesn't matter. The new Captain will be standing on the deck, steering a ship which is taking on water, beyond any help or rescue. He / she will try any number of solutions / fixes / patches, it won't make any difference. We're sinking just the same.

We should probably be glad that Edwards backed out. This country is in a state of transition; he's a leader who appeared about 5 to 7 years before his time.
Once we emerge the Phoenix rising from the ashes, hopefully we'll get another John Edwards.

[mother earth]

8. My heart has not changed and I will proceed with a vote for Edwards.

Even now, there's no other I want for president. If Edwards has a spot in the new administration, I would be happy, as I will always feel he is our last shred of hope.

[Hermes Daughter]

9. Me too, Mother Earth

Beautifully said. I feel that way too. I have a friend who helped me today. She said when Edwards 'suspended' his race yesterday, that in that one speech he went from being a candidate to a statesman. It gives me hope again. I'm always looking - inside, in the stars, everywhere - for ways to believe he'll be here for us.

I've worked so hard on his campaign and I'm voting for him too. In my live, I lived through 3 terrible assassinations, 2 crooked elections, and 8 years of corruption. Yesterday was just too much!

[mother earth]

11. And those events involved the same group we fight today.

:hug: We can't ever resign to defeat, we are taking a different path than yesterday, just as John is going to take a different path in this election, we can still pledge to stand with him and to realize one America. The one that knows we are all connected. We are not alone, we are in good company, Hermes Daughter. :grouphug:

[Silver Gaia]

21. And I'll add another "me,too!" to that.

"I lived through 3 terrible assassinations, 2 crooked elections, and 8 years of corruption. Yesterday was just too much!"

Yep. Just too damn much.

[Shine]

10. I'm a heartbroken Edwards supporter, too

:cry:
I live in CA and was planning to see him live in San Jose tomorrow and now I won't get to. :(

I haven't sent in my absentee ballot yet, but maybe I should keep with my original plan and vote for Edwards, anyway. I don't know if it'll make much difference to the media, in terms of "giving them a message", if I vote for him, or not. They don't seem to give a shit about what most of us think. It's fairly evident Edwards was purposefully blackballed from any serious coverage during his campaign.

It's not terribly surprising, considering the M$M is the corporate arm of the elite. The thought of an Edwards' presidency made a lot of them VERY nervous, so it made sense to position Edwards as an "angry anti-business populist".

I'm undecided...I'll watch the debates and see what happens....

[mother earth]

12. Shine, the only way they will ever get my Edwards vote is to tell

me straight out how they intend to have him serve as part of the next administration.
They know they can win us over, we just need to tell them how. :pals:

[Hermes Daughter]

14. Shine, mother earth, and ccpup...

Thank you for your support and empathy :grouphug: I feel so foolish, ccpup. I didn't realize how much work you've done on Edwards and how much you know. I just discovered your thread which is further down. You do know everything about him! How in the world did Blue Iris predict the exact day too?!!! Well, I feel fortunate to meet other Edwards' people who know and speak the true language of reality and the future! I'm okay if he's AG. Maybe it's even better for him. But, cccpup... <hope springs eternal> do you see him as president some day? When the bad guys have been banished and the new age begins. Maybe 2012 - or beyond? I don't mean to be too tedious but is it possible? I just get this presidential vibe from him. (And his Asc is conjunct Sirius!) I met him twice in Boston and once in New Hampshire; and Elizabeth three times in New Hampshire. When he walks in the room the air is lit up and he walks in a gold glow.

It's so intense. :loveya: And Elizabeth is very "mother earth" goddess, so calm and beautiful. And now... he's gone and he won't be here again. And I'm worried so about Elizabeth's health - and so so so sad too... A hug for each of you :hug: :hug: :hug:

H.D.
An Edwards' :patriot:

[glowing]

17. You know who shines even brighter.. those kids.. especially Jack.

Something about the boy just radiates light...

[mother earth]

19. The whole family is an absolute delight. They all shine.

[Sanity Claws]

15. It looks like Tuesday will be a classic Mercury retro mess

I just saw this over at GD regarding expected problems in counting the vote on Super Tuesday. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2802450

Classic Mercury retro.

[BlueIris]

16. The uncertainty re: the nomination will continue.

[Missy Vixen]

20. I'm voting for Edwards

Our absentee ballots arrived yesterday for the primary on (I believe,) February 19th.

We'll attend our Washington State caucus, too, and I'll caucus for him.

I am not willing to let a few other people dictate my choice.

Julie

[Helga Scow Stern]

22. In 2000 and 2004, eclipses have had to do with election theft.

In 2000, the solar eclipse at 21 Capricorn following the election squared the Midheaven of the US chart, which represents the office of the presidency. Just before the 2004 election, the eclipse at 21 Libra was right on the Midheaven.

(I don't favor the Sibley chart, but one with a slightly later birth time. Instead of 12 Sag rising and 2 Libra on the Midheaven, the chart vetted by Vedic astrologer James Kelleher and which I have come to trust more than Sibley after much careful research, has 21 Libra on the midheaven and 28 Sagittarius on the ascendant. I think the use of the wrong chart is why most astrologers missed the theft in 2004 and thought Kerry would win. He did win, but with an eclipse on the office of the presidency a few days before the election, it was obvious that the office was going to be somehow corrupted or "absconded with".)

Regardless of which chart we use, with retrograde Mercury so close to the sun blurring all reason and close to Neptune, and the eclipse all signal that the wool is going to be pulled over our eyes. If we are prepared we will be less likely to get caught up in the collective intensity of the situation.