Ralfee Finn's weekly frequency...a little more on schedule, lol

[northernlights]

http://www.aquariumage.com/vibration.html


....The big news this week is Mars Direct today. I’ve been racking my brain to think of an appropriate song for this astral event, but I can’t seem to find the gestalt equivalent of “Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead.”



....Mars rules assertion, from rage to self-actualization and everything in between. It is the arms and legs of the ego, and it is through Mars that we move out in the world and know ourselves as individuals, separate and distinct from others. Some of us, especially those of us figuring out how to express anger in healthy ways, could have trouble handling this Martian thrust, so try to be compassionate about tantrums, yours or others. Anger is always a healthy response against the injustice of having a self denied, but harming others in the process of taking that stand isn’t always a healthy choice. If you feel yourself on the edge of a storm, take a break before you say or do something you might later regret.

As Mars moves into gear, so will we. Just be aware, getting up to speed is going to take time for all of us, including Mars, so you still need to make patience your constant companion. By the end of March, as Mars kicks into overdrive, so do several other planetary configurations, all of which are going to keep us extremely active. Rather than resent how long it takes to hit your stride, use this time to gather your strength and replenish your reserves.....

[OneGrassRoot]

1. Ego

Interesting that word was used. I recognize that my resentment of EGO is something fueling my own frustration....leading to anger.

I've been chastised by others in the spiritual community for having a problem with others' ego -- ;) -- but I do indeed bristle when someone's ego creates problems for others, yet they disguise ego in spirituality and even manipulate in that way.

Gosh, there are so many things I want to start threads about...ego, suicide....how about the suicide of ego? ;)

I don't know if it's even allowed or appropriate to have a discussion about suicide, but it's a subject very much in my awareness and always has been, even in childhood. I'm always curious how those following a decidedly open, all-inclusive spiritual path feels about the subject.

Thanks for posting this, NL. Interesting times.

*deep breath*

:hug: :hug: :hug:

:grouphug:

[conscious evolution]

2. suicide brings about

extinction of the soul. Light out. For ever.
Not a good thing.
Killing the ego,on the other hand,allows one to leave the world of me and join into the world of we,or oneness with all.

[northernlights]

3. on suicide

I've recently come to feel that when I find myself thinking about suicide, what I really want is a "little" death...the death of the particular phase I'm in.

I wonder if other people feel the same. And if maybe many of those who commit suicide -- especially young people -- are sadly acting on just one aspect of their being.

I don't see why discussion of suicide would be taboo or against any rules.

Yikes..we cross-posted....I wrote this in reponse to OGR. :crazy:

[OneGrassRoot]

4. But we don't really know that, do we?

This goes back to me always harping on "knowing" -- and how I wonder about others' knowings.

Thumpers KNOW things -- be it fundamentalist baptists or Catholics -- and I surely don't resonate with their knowing. They know the soul is damned to hell forever if one commits suicide.

I don't know that.

I don't understand how anyone can feel so strongly that they know anything about the afterlife.

Based on experience people can certainly believe things strongly...and it's a strong personal belief or truth for them. Yet to know things for others as an absolute truth?

That's where I part ways with the spiritual community. It's also where I bristle about ego.

I'm not trying to be combative (though Mars IS affecting me...lol), but I see knowing -- a knowing that is so strong it is preached or strongly recommended to others as a universal truth -- as an ego thing.

And I do indeed have a problem with ego.

But that's my problem, and I do need to examine it more as to why it agitates me so much.

I always appreciate others' knowings and they may or may not help me find my own personal truths, but when absolute statements are made...I have a hard time with that.

But again, I recognize that as being MY problem. ;) It does tend to stop a flow of discussion though.

I essentially believe we're creating our own reality -- in this life, the next, etc. If one believes suicide damns them to hell, that's probably what will happen. If one feels it is an unfortunate but most compassionate last resort and they can then move on to the next life (though perhaps having to go through the same challenges again), I believe that's a very real possibility as well.

Interesting subject though....

:hug: to you, conscious evolution!

:grouphug:


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[conscious evolution]

5. If one believes suicide damns them to hell

I don't believe it damns one to hell.You have to have a soul to be in hell.
Heaven and hell are what we experience while we are still on this plane of existance.The two states of mind are an integral part of samsarrha and by transcending them we end the cycles of incarnation/reincarnation.
There are three ways of dealing with samsarrha-We can cultivate and transcend,we can not cultivate and continue/remain in samsarrha or we can destroy/annihilate our soul/spirit.

[OneGrassRoot]

6. DU is amazing....

I just went to Google "samsarrha," as I was only vaguely familiar with the term and wondered about its origin, and a whole slew of DU posts are what came up after the Wikipedia entry. That happens a lot!

Now I "get" the DUer's screen name of Sam Sarrha. :)

You obviously have a strong belief in/knowing of the path you follow, and I admire and respect that, even if I don't necessarily embrace it fully myself.

:hug:

[Sienna86]

7. suicide

My personal beliefs on suicide.... I believe that an individual who commits suicide feels such pain and despair that to them, it is the only choice. It's like a normal person swimming up in a pool of water to reach the air at the surface. To them, it's the only route to the cessation of hopelessness. Growing up Catholic, I know what the dogma states. I do not believe that it snuffs out a soul. How can a soul/a person who is dealing with such pain suffer or be punished from choosing that route? I guess none of us know for sure.

[get the red out]

9. I agree with this

And a soul is energy, which can't be destroyed, only changed.

[I Have A Dream]

12. This is my belief as well. nt

[OneGrassRoot]

10. That's my personal belief as well....

As GTRO said, we're all energy and it changes form. That's my belief. I do wonder about the potential karmic debt, but I just don't know how this game works for certain. ;)

:hug:

[northernlights]

11. I agree, I also don't think of it as karmic debt

I think it depends on the circumstances, how it's done, why...and I don't think of karma as having or creating debt. Simply that all action causes equal and opposite reaction. For example, I doubt that somebody who is suffering horribly of a terminal disease will be reborn into suffering horribly because they chose to end rather then endure additional weeks or months or years of suffering.


:hug:

[rumpel]

13. Yes, and in the particular case you mention

of terminal disease, and or some violent and sudden death, I am not so sure how much of the suffering is for the purpose of the soul, whose body is inflicted, but may in fact be more for those around them.

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. No. However, it is a terrible karmic debt.

Pray massively for all suicides.

Needless to say, I will never be bullied into harming myself or others. And I know people by their intent and action. They should check themselves.